AAP @ Vienna Elementary School

[Anonymous]

Can someone weigh in on AAP services at VES? Especially interested in hearing from those whose child was eligible for LIV and decided to stay at VES as well as those who decided to move their child to LA. Any positives/negatives? TIA.

[Anonymous]

They have a full time AART that does pull out Level III and some Level IV work.

They currently have plans to implement Level IV curriculum across all grades, starting with 3rd-6th. Not making it a Local Level IV, as the admin is strongly opposed to that. Just making the curriculum available to all while differentiating within classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They have a full time AART that does pull out Level III and some Level IV work.

They currently have plans to implement Level IV curriculum across all grades, starting with 3rd-6th. Not making it a Local Level IV, as the admin is strongly opposed to that. Just making the curriculum available to all while differentiating within classroom.

Bravo to Vienna Elem. This is how it should be at all the FCPS elem. and middle schools. No need for the center nonsense.

[Anonymous]

^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

+1
I attended Great Falls Elem. in the late 70's and this is what the GT program was. It was all "in-house" and worked great. Also, very few kids were in it since the admittance criteria was much higher.

[Anonymous]

I think most of the Mclean schools and Wolftrap have a similar program where the kids switch for math and language arts but then are in homerooms for the rest of the day. It seems to work pretty well for schools with a high number of level 3 and level 4 children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

There were gifted programs in FCPS as far back as the late 1960s. I believe the precursor to GT was called "Superior Learners" or something else that wouldn't be considered PC today. Springfield Estates had one of the early ES centers.

The programs were much smaller and there were no formal referrals/appeals, but schools would on a one-off basis let kids into the program who didn't get in based on the formal screening process, if the counselors thought it made sense based on a student's overall academic profile.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for everyone's replies. Does anyone have experience w transitioning to LA for AAP starting from 3rd?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

There were gifted programs in FCPS as far back as the late 1960s. I believe the precursor to GT was called "Superior Learners" or something else that wouldn't be considered PC today. Springfield Estates had one of the early ES centers.

The programs were much smaller and there were no formal referrals/appeals, but schools would on a one-off basis let kids into the program who didn't get in based on the formal screening process, if the counselors thought it made sense based on a student's overall academic profile.

Isn't that what level 3 is nowadays?

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for everyone's replies. Does anyone have experience w transitioning to LA for AAP starting from 3rd?

I do, OP. What's your question?

[Anonymous]

Could you speak to why you decided to transfer rather than stay? Are you glad that you did? If you know, approx what % of students eligible for LIV stay v transfer?

[Anonymous]

Bump. Does anyone know how many are leaving VES to attend LA? If your child is, what's your reasoning if you don't mind sharing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

FCPS had gifted programs well before 1977.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^and now, the program has come full circle, at least at Vienna Elem. This is exactly the Gifted and Talented Program that I recall in the program's infancy in FCPS, circa 1977.

There were gifted programs in FCPS as far back as the late 1960s. I believe the precursor to GT was called "Superior Learners" or something else that wouldn't be considered PC today. Springfield Estates had one of the early ES centers.

The programs were much smaller and there were no formal referrals/appeals, but schools would on a one-off basis let kids into the program who didn't get in based on the formal screening process, if the counselors thought it made sense based on a student's overall academic profile.

Isn't that what level 3 is nowadays?

No, pretty much any kid allowed to participate in the SL classes back then would be in AAP today, and many current AAP students would not have gotten through the screening process or been moved into the classes on a one-off basis by teachers at the time. It was a much smaller program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone weigh in on AAP services at VES? Especially interested in hearing from those whose child was eligible for LIV and decided to stay at VES as well as those who decided to move their child to LA. Any positives/negatives? TIA.

The kids we know who stayed had several brothers and sisters and the parents wanted them all at the same school. They also liked the school a lot and I guess felt the LLIII program was good enough. The other problem with Louise Archer is that it doesn't have SACC. The kids I know who moved to Louise Archer are happy too.