Hilaria Baldwin - At it again

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Anonymous wrote:I find it a shame, really, that she fabricated a Spanish identity when her own true story is really interesting - it would have been so much more real and authentic if she put herself out there as what she really is: a highly privileged white girl from Boston, Yankee to the core, who was introduced to the Spanish culture at some point in her life, fell in love with it, and wanted to emulate and incorporate aspects of this culture into her own life as she became an adult and started her own family. Her children's Spanish names are beautiful, she herself is very attractive and speaks Spanish half-way decently - as she seems to just really enjoy Spanish culture as a Yankee American, why not just say it? There is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in having your children be bi-lingual, as the Spanish language is truly beautiful - why not just say that she wanted her children to be able to speak the language that she fell in love with as an American, and just leave it at that?
Now, of course, not sure if Alec would have been interested in an American girl from Boston, but if her looks were enough to attract him and have him ask her out, why couldn't she just be herself and let it go from there? It must be exhausting to keep up this charade...I don't know how she's done it for 8 years, no wonder the fake accent comes and goes.
In the long run this is probably the best thing that has ever happened to her, and her relationship to Alec, and her relationship to the truth and who she really is. I would think it would be soul-crushing to pretend that you are something you are not, with the caveat being, of course, that if she really believes what she's saying, and has denied and negated her true identity as a white girl who grew up in Boston, then this situation has an entirely different meaning and solution.

It WOULD be a good thing if Hilary and Alec owned what they've done. But they are doing the opposite. This will destroy both of them .

If by “this” you mean the hysterical mob that is overreacting to this misdeed, then yes. This will destroy them. The cyber bullying by people inexplicably outraged by this is nuts. I’d chalk it up to it being 2020 but it’s actually really frightening. No doubt, it’s not acceptable to lie. But this hurt no one and sorry, doesn’t cut it on the spectrum of cultural appropriation. It just doesn’t. This isn’t Rachel Dolezal. This is a woman who wanted to seem wealthy, sophisticated, and like she grew up in one of the most posh areas of Spain. But sure, let’s ruin her life.

It is similar to Rachel Dolezal. Hysterically laughing is all the "mob" is doing, because people find narcissists who lie silly. Hillary will be fine. You'll see.

Hillary "sells" authenticity. That's gone. Bye, Felicia.

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The fall out for her lying was severe and absolutely crushed her life: Rachel Dolezal suffered tremendously once her lies were exposed, & even these several years later she’s had a difficult time getting back on her feet and back to a semblance of a normal life. Hope, sincerely, that this will not be Hilaria’s story, too, as she tries to parent her 5 small children after all this negative publicity, along with having Alec Baldwin (involuntary shutter) for a life partner.

Sure hope she’s not pregnant. It seems to be about that time....

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Anonymous wrote:Hilaria, like Rachel Dolezal, will recover. it didn’t ruin Rachel’s life and Rachel doesn’t have a sugar daddy supporting her as far as I know.

It’s nothing like Rachel Dolezal. Rachel Dolezal’s life has absolutely been ruined; she’s homeless and essentially indigent. But again, Hilaria’s fakery is not even close to the Dolezal situation. Get some perspective, FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

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This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

PP here, you're right--I just asked my spouse, and he's not clinical track, surprisingly. However, at some med schools, they are clinical track unless they're devoting significant amounts of time to research. I've been research track in a different med school, so I know a little about the conventions, but I guess they're not universal.

Funny, the head of your husband's division is also my husband's head. Small world, lol.

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This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

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Anonymous wrote:I barely knew anything about this woman before other than some fleeting info on a celebrity news piece...I am familiar with the Baldwin brothers just through the years, and, lately, his SNL impressions of Trump (which I liked!) Anyway, I'm a youngish boomer, about Alec's age) so I'm looking at this maybe from a different perspective. I just do not see a story here and I feel that the original tweet and subsequent investigation created a story where there was none. Intrigued and not currently working, and bored from not doing my usual things, I delved into the pieces and "video evidence."

I don't think this woman, Hilaria, conned anyone. The Spanish culture lives largely in her home, very similarly to a lot of my family and friends who are Jewish. Why isn't this the same thing? We all grew up speaking two or three languages, English, Hebrew, and Yiddish- yet most of us have had never been to Israel until adults or at all. My family has a mild accent, and family members in New York really do, yet do not live in Israel. My family calls me by a different name, and many of my friends, who are not Israeli, and not Eastern European, had full-on Jewish weddings with food and drink and language and dress and custom. They've named their kids Hebrew names. They have Judaica artwork all over their houses. Some have visited Israel, some have not. Some have friends and family who live there, some do not.

Er....do any of your non-Jewish friends had Jewish weddings? Pretended to be Jewish? Said, in Israel WE do things differently?

I am struck by how you aren't able to see a difference between someone living a true heritage vs. an invented one.

Yes, this. I am Indian American, born and raised in the US, but I’ve lived in India for a year and a half. Even so - I do not say, “In India, WE eat this”. I would say that about America but not India. I also lived in the UK for years but would not say, “In the UK, we do this”. I would always say “they”.

I am Indian who immigrated here as an adult. I have relatives, born and raised in the US, dating and marrying people who are White and Christians, who have lived in different countries for several years, and who have remained close to "Indian Hindu" customs they have no clue or context about. It is very much part of their identity. I actually find it disconcerting because they cling to their Indianess - culture, religion, rituals, food, language, clothes, daily life - when they have no real reason or understanding of it. It is all surface mimicry. Monkey see, monkey do. If it helps to understand this psyche better - we are of North Indian Punjabi descent. My people from the land of "lots of agriculture and hardly any culture" (and I say that with lot of fondness). I look at Hillaria and I feel she is just like an ABCD (American Born Confused Desi) Punjabi. Her culture is the culture of her individual household. She is not lying but she is American Born Confused Spanish.

Punjabi American here. You are wrong about me and you are wrong about Hilaria.

You don't even follow what's going on. Pot kettle black much?

Please simmer down, Booby Jindal!

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Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

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Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

+1

See the MLK IG video.

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Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

Lol, did you even read it? You’ve been referencing your “facts” of this story through DCUM and gossip sites, but you have an issue with Joel Stein’s perspective. What a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

Lol, did you even read it? You’ve been referencing your “facts” of this story through DCUM and gossip sites, but you have an issue with Joel Stein’s perspective. What a joke.

The joke is your PR salary, mi amigo. -DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

Lol, did you even read it? You’ve been referencing your “facts” of this story through DCUM and gossip sites, but you have an issue with Joel Stein’s perspective. What a joke.

Yes, I read it. So you know, the tactic of insulting people never works on anyone. Immediately downgrades you in a debate or discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This piece is so spot on: “What Hilaria-gate Says About You”:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/what-hilariagate-says-about-you


“Lame and attention getting, sure. But you have to be one of those Americans who can’t find other countries on a map - in other words an American - to think Hilaria Baldwin was trying to steal street cred as a brown person, which is the heart of this scandal. This is not Rachel Dolezal. Hilaria Baldwin didn’t say she grew up in San Salvador. She claimed heritage from Mallorca, one of the most expensive vacation spots in Europe.”

LOL. The Hollywood Reporter is notorious for puff pieces that favor celebrities. Hillary really really needs to realize gaslighting confirms she has issues, not the other way around.

Lol, did you even read it? You’ve been referencing your “facts” of this story through DCUM and gossip sites, but you have an issue with Joel Stein’s perspective. What a joke.

The joke is your PR salary, mi amigo. -DP

Yah, if H & A cancel anything, it really needs to be whoever is doing their PR

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Anonymous wrote:As I suspected, Hilaria LOVES this scandal. This is her personal pee s3x tape. https://okmagazine.com/exclusives/hilaria-baldwin-secretly-loving-attention-amid-fake-accent-drama/

100%. I fully expect to see them on 60 Minutes.

I don’t think 60 minutes would bother with this. More like access Hollywood.

Maybe not 60 minutes but some show, and they'll play the cyber bullying angle that a pp has already started to float,

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Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

PP here, you're right--I just asked my spouse, and he's not clinical track, surprisingly. However, at some med schools, they are clinical track unless they're devoting significant amounts of time to research. I've been research track in a different med school, so I know a little about the conventions, but I guess they're not universal.

Funny, the head of your husband's division is also my husband's head. Small world, lol.

Ha. Funny that your DH also works in the ED! The only other medical school/hospital I’m familiar with (again, because of my DH, I’m in a completely different field) had the same conventions so KH’s using the title didn’t strike me as off, but I definitely don’t know if in some places it would be considered misleading. I will say that today’s NYT article used the title, as did a university she gave a commencement address at, as do lots of medical conferences she has spoken at, so I have a hard time thinking that her use of the title is substantively incorrect (e.g., I feel like the NYT would have checked with MGH or Harvard), but I obviously don’t know for sure.

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Are you all actually sure Hilaria is not Spanish-American? I could see her being Spanish-American.