FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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West Springfield PTSA is having a meeting that Sandy Anderson and Rachna Sizemore Heizer are attending to answer questions about boundary shifts tonight at 7:30. Seems brave of them if the capacity boundary changes come out right before and WSHS has major changes.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

I also support boundary changes. Three of us so far this morning.

Wow, enough for HOV now. Congrats

Enough for 1/3 of a baseball team! 😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:West Springfield PTSA is having a meeting that Sandy Anderson and Rachna Sizemore Heizer are attending to answer questions about boundary shifts tonight at 7:30. Seems brave of them if the capacity boundary changes come out right before and WSHS has major changes.

I don’t live there but might try to attend. Would be great to watch them squirm. Anderson is going to scowl the whole time and will likely berate her constituents who dare to question her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:West Springfield PTSA is having a meeting that Sandy Anderson and Rachna Sizemore Heizer are attending to answer questions about boundary shifts tonight at 7:30. Seems brave of them if the capacity boundary changes come out right before and WSHS has major changes.

Could be a smart move if they want to get out the message that these are just scenarios and nothing has been decided yet. On the other hand, if they start undercutting Thru’s proposals right after they are released, it’s an invitation to everyone else to do likewise.

Sandy Anderson is a suck up to Karl Frisch and Rachna only cares about Lake Braddock so no one from West Springfield should be duped into thinking either really cares about West Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

I also support boundary changes. Three of us so far this morning.

Wow, enough for HOV now. Congrats

Enough for 1/3 of a baseball team! 😂😂😂

You are so clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

The only reason that Herndon High School has excess capacity is because 300 students transfer to other high schools. Most students in Great Falls would have long bus rides no matter what high school they attend. Houses are far apart so the buses have to make more stops.

If anyone actually cared about transportation costs they would recommend not paying to bus elementary and middle school students to AAP Centers. Most schools have school based AAP at this point. The school board should make it a priority to have AAP in every elementary and middle school.

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AP centers should be a thing of the past. Not just the free busing, but the centers themselves. They are redundant and wasteful.

It’s not happening with this boundary study so maybe you should consider not spamming the thread with your anti-AAP rants. They just make you look ridiculous.

I’m 💯 not anti AAP. My kids are in AAP. I just don’t see a need for AAP center schools. It is ridiculous to pay for transportation for students to go to a center school when the majority of schools have local full time AAP classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

I also support boundary changes. Three of us so far this morning.

Wow, enough for HOV now. Congrats

Enough for 1/3 of a baseball team! 😂😂😂

You are so clueless.

No, I think the math checks out. There are nine players on a baseball field, and you found three people disinterested in community, stability, and kids’ mental health.

Three divided by nine is 1/3. Someone can check my second grade math here, but I think that’s right.

Like you three could play first second and third, or maybe left field right field and catcher. You would still be missing 6 players to field a full team. And if you were batting, you’d run into a problem if you had the bases loaded. Do you have the runner on third come home to bat? But then who runs? There are three bases and only three of you looking to move other people’s kids with no actual urgent pressing need, so you’d need to figure out what to do with the bases loaded.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

I also support boundary changes. Three of us so far this morning.

Wow, enough for HOV now. Congrats

Enough for 1/3 of a baseball team! 😂😂😂

You are so clueless.

No, I think the math checks out. There are nine players on a baseball field, and you found three people disinterested in community, stability, and kids’ mental health.

Three divided by nine is 1/3. Someone can check my second grade math here, but I think that’s right.

Like you three could play first second and third, or maybe left field right field and catcher. You would still be missing 6 players to field a full team. And if you were batting, you’d run into a problem if you had the bases loaded. Do you have the runner on third come home to bat? But then who runs? There are three bases and only three of you looking to move other people’s kids with no actual urgent pressing need, so you’d need to figure out what to do with the bases loaded.

You have too much time on your hands. Sounds like you live in the bullpen, always waiting for but never getting the opportunity to pitch.

[Anonymous]

Moving a significant number of kids out of WS is short sighted at this point in time. With the government/military cuts and the contracting cuts that are still happening, it’s going to heavily affect that area. If people start moving, the SLIGHT crowding at WSHS will fix itself. And aren’t there fewer currently ES age children than there are older MS/HS kids due to lower birth rates and people already moving out of the county for cheaper housing? They’ll move kids out of WS and then have a nice, renovated school at 80-85% that could accept more students in ~10 years. Are they just going to endlessly shift kids between Lewis/Annandale/WS depending on who has capacity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moving a significant number of kids out of WS is short sighted at this point in time. With the government/military cuts and the contracting cuts that are still happening, it’s going to heavily affect that area. If people start moving, the SLIGHT crowding at WSHS will fix itself. And aren’t there fewer currently ES age children than there are older MS/HS kids due to lower birth rates and people already moving out of the county for cheaper housing? They’ll move kids out of WS and then have a nice, renovated school at 80-85% that could accept more students in ~10 years. Are they just going to endlessly shift kids between Lewis/Annandale/WS depending on who has capacity?

+1. Go to the meeting and give Sandy and rachna an earful

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.

Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.

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It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.

Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.

Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.

Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.

Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.

Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.

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Today is the day I will be refreshing the boundary meeting website every 5 mins for yesterday’s presentation and slide deck. Wishing everyone the best!

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Anonymous wrote:According to the website, materials will be posted the following business day so tomorrow (Tuesday) probably late afternoon

It's going to get VERY interesting if they propose to move people out of Chantilly and West Springfield but leave Langley untouched. Once again FCPS will have talked a good game about equity, and then turned around and screwed the middle class while favoring the wealthiest.

West Springfield is currently at 112% capacity and expected to go to 120% capacity by 2029-2030.

Chantilly is currently at 125% capacity if you don’t include modulars and expected to be at 118% capacity without modulars by 2029-2030.

Langley is currently at 94% capacity and expected to be at 96% capacity by 2029-2030.

How is there even a comparison? It makes sense to lower the numbers of students at over capacity schools. It doesn’t make sense to unnecessarily rezone kids from an under capacity school.

Sure it does, if kids live closer to a school that has even more extra capacity. Why should others pay to bus your kids longer distances than necessary? Also, your numbers for Langley don't include the additional kids from closer-in Tysons they're going to move to Langley.

And why should we bother moving kids out of "over capacity" schools - and capacity should take the modular seats that cost millions to install into account - now if those schools are expected to see declines in enrollment?

But let's see what they come up with today. If they propose to move kids out of Chantilly and West Springfield, with their compact boundaries, while leaving Langley with its far-flung boundaries untouched, it will be a political disaster for the Democrats in Sully and Springfield.

“Political disaster”? Literal LOL.

Sully and Springfield are already the two most conservative magisterial districts in Fairfax. Goodbye, Dixit and Anderson if they screw the middle class while giving the Langley rich another pass.

As someone who lives in WSHS area and whose kid could get moved, my anger about all this will not be impacted by what they do to Langley. I will be angry either way.

Not me. We live close to our current schools and they may rezone us anyway, so if they are going to continue busing Langley kids 10 miles while upending our kids lives in furtherance of unclear goals I will be doubly pissed.

Well, I think you’ve just outed yourself as a big ol hypocrite. It’s gotta be tough having that much cognitive dissonance.

Nothing hypocritical about it at all. If county-wide boundary changes are really needed like they're claiming they should go all in and not just look for soft targets while letting the rich people who'd make the biggest stink off the hook again.

Class warfare on your neighbors. Stay classy, hypocrite.

You don't know what hypocrisy means. I want the same thing for you as FCPS appears to want for me, and they have discretion to do so under their policy since cutting down on transportation times and costs gets just as much prominence as addressing a capacity deficit.

Plus you have money to hire the lawyers to challenge them. Not all of us do.

They know that, and that's why you get left out of boundary studies while others are not so fortunate.

To recap your view is if something bad has to happen to me i hope it happens to everyone else too (specifically Langley). You can use the transportation cost reasons all you want but that was debunked over and over. The cost to save 2-9 minutes each way for a few buses isn’t adding up to any amount of savings.

The problem with how big Herndon was built out it does not match capacity of Herndon MS. There is not space to move an entire elementary into that pyramid. Especially since it appears they are moving part of the very over crowded Coates to Herndon ES which feeds into Herndon Ms and Herndon HS

Or, stated differently, if some are to benefit from the advantages of county-wide redistricting, it would be unfair to deprive Langley families of that same opportunity.

In the case of students in western Great Falls, the shorter commutes to Herndon and potential transportation savings were never "debunked" simply because you chose to downplay them ad nauseam on this thread. You're confusing the frequency of your objections with the quality of your argument.

The mismatch of MS capacity with HS capacity isn't unique to Herndon. Even so, HMS is also projected to be well under capacity through 2029. And moving Coates kids who already are zoned to HMS/HHS to HES doesn't impact the enrollment at HMS or HHS. It only changes the ES assignment.

Look forward to your continuing to advocate on behalf of everyone who'd rather stay put. After all, if you can successfully advocate on Langley's behalf here, advocating on behalf of the rest of us who actually live close to our current schools ought to be a slam dunk.

You’re responding to a different poster. You also sound like a pretty awful person.

Oh, so you wouldn't advocate on anyone else's behalf but your own, but you take issues with others expecting Langley to be subject to the same scrutiny as other areas? Got it.

Well, if you can’t read well enough to understand my earlier post where I said I will continue to advocate for no boundary changes for anyone, then you are a lost cause. I couldn’t have stated it more clearly.

Good luck living your petty life.

Different poster here. I'm in WSHS area and our area appreciates your support.

Speak for yourself, not for our area.

Let me guess, you are the BRAC member who is on record being for boundary changes for others, but not for her own kids.

Nope. Once again, you people are not grasping that many support overdue boundary changes.

+1. New poster here.

Be careful what you wish for. Turns out that the school board is about to go nuclear with the boundaries.

Let’s see how well this ages. A few weeks ago the flood of “there will be a pause announced after spring break” posts did not age well.

Sure. Let’s put a pin in this. Make sure to follow up whether you are right or wrong, and I’ll do the same. Deal?

Now we just gotta wait for those night worm BRAC members to wake up.

Fair enough. How would define nuclear? It’s only fair to have an objective measure of whether the prediction (or informed hint) bore out.

Unanticipated boundary moves on a scale larger than many anticipated with tens of thousands of kids’ mental health being collateral damage. And in areas many felt were safe from boundary changes.