Torn what to do: worry about challenge/peers at Title I school
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My young 2nd grader was not in pool with either Naglieri or CogAt. Her Naglieri was a 122. Her CogAt composite is 122. Breakdown is 132 Verbal, 118 Quant, 108 Non-verbal.
She's had Young Scholars pull outs since K. AART says go ahead and refer. The thing is, I think I really need something to overcome the scores. Her teacher tells me constantly that she can't keep up with her, when I ask her. I asked specifically about AAP today, and she said "X is definitely performing well even at extended levels."I know she's one of 2 children in the top reading group. Her teacher has told me that homework is differentiated, and that she's receiving the hardest packet they offer. She finishes her week's worth of homework often in one day. She's young, just turned 7 in September. If they used the old qualification of 132 on any section, she would be in pool. Her scores are not impressive, I realize that. But, since K, her teachers have always expressed how bright she is. I'm wondering if choosing to send my September child on time is a disadvantage. I'm worried many of her academic peers she has will leave. Thoughts from someone who is at a Title I school who might have some perspective? Not looking for comments on me choosing a more expensive neighborhood. LLIV not available. |
Anonymous
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But I thought the scores are age adjusted already.
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Anonymous
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we had similar situation a few years ago. left a school that was not title one, but definitely lower performing and lots of ESL, to go to a center school. my son was in pool and got into aap, but his scores were not stellar, but good enough. he got a really good GBRS score. he also seemed way ahead of his classmates by 2nd grade and had lots of pull outs and was always in a reading group with just 1 or 2 others.
he went to the center school for 3rd and had to really work hard! we eventually moved to a school with higher SES and a local level IV. |
Anonymous
| This is OP, they are age normed. My thought is though, having a barely 6 year old 1st grader vs. a 7 year old first grader take any test would be a very different thing. I wish they still administered both in 2nd. |
Anonymous
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I would refer.
My DD (now in AAP) was also a young 1st grader (August birthday) at a Title I school when taking the NNAT in 1st grade. Did not score too well in NNAT (115 as I recall). Took the CogAT as a 2nd grader and CogAT composite was enough to be in pool (140). We opted to leave the base school for the center. She's done quite well in AAP and I think it was the best decision for her. |
Anonymous
| So it's true, parents try to skimp paying for good schools and shoot to be placed in better ones via aap. Maybe you should pay your share and buy in a good district and use aap as a gateway for the gifted, not a lottery ticket. |
Anonymous
BWAHAHAHA! 
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Anonymous
. Did it ever occur to you that the very educators working with your precious snowflakes who have been test prepped, and sent to Kumon since birth, may not have the same financial means you do? Stay on topic instead of trying to derail the thread. |
Anonymous
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OP - It doesn't hurt to refer. You don't have to move her now, but you'll always have the option to do it later if she gets in. And if she doesn't get in next year, you can always refer again later on. There's no harm in trying.
As a first step, try filling out the parent questionnaire. If the examples come easily, she's probably a good fit. I'm no expert, but it sounds like you can do it just using some of the examples you gave in your original question. FWIW - I sent my DS with an early August birthday to the AAP center and he's done very well. |
Anonymous
Exactly! Only the children of well-off parents should get a good education. So glad someone has the courage to say it! |
Anonymous
| Who says that she won't get a good education where she is? Your class sizes sure will be smaller. Fcps all follows a standard curriculum |
Anonymous
There are minimum standard sof "good" and all of the FCPS meet this standard. If you wish to be placed with peers that are above standard level of "good" you can pay to live in a more expensive school district without having to go through AAP. You are asking to get a mercedes for toyota pricing, they both achieve their goals. |
Anonymous
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This is OP. Thank you to those who gave constructive advice. I am still thinking about the proper course of action. I have two older children too, one who is in 7th grade AAP, and another with borderline scores, but a 16 GBRS who I chose not to refer due to special needs and concerns about class size, so I'm familiar with the process and my rights.
I'll admit I am really floored about the financial comments. I hope those who are making them feel better about themselves, and their superior wealth. Considering I'm sure you've never set foot in a Title I school, I'm not sure your advice is relevant to me, or this thread. |
Anonymous
Classes in Title 1 schools are required to be smaller only through 3rd grade. |
Anonymous
So it's ok for parents of kids in wealthier neighborhoods to try to get their kids into AAP, but not people with kids in lower performing schools? Luckily for OP you aren't in charge and you can rant all you want about people skimping because it doesn't impact her or her kid. You do realize that your tax dollars go toward educating all kids in AAP, whether they are in a title I school or AAP? Maybe your neighborhood can secede from Fairfax County and only allow parent who pay above a certain amount of money for their house to attend your public schools. |