Hilaria Baldwin - At it again

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Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

It doesn't appear that the parents are contributing to this scandal. At least they haven't fooled us, the public.

The parents are part of this. Their plan is for II to be part of HIlaria's "living clearly" bullsh!t. It bombed however.

Who is II?

II=International Integrators.....their snake oil company

[Anonymous]

Hillary/Hilaria is not the first woman who was attractive with someone who has/had money/privilege to make up a fake background, carry on with it and try to fool everyone. And, yes, it is wrong even if you only fool people who pay you or are your friends or whatever, and not do more serious things. Fraud/fake/lying is fraud/fake/lying. Even if "nobody's hurt by it."

The identical public response occurred with others who have done it. She is not being treated any different than anyone else who has done this kind of thing.

She is not a victim. Victims are people who do not do bad things and suffer from outcomes/circumstances they did not cause or bring on themselves.

The worst PR effort is to try to blame it on others, make the person who has done it a victim, insult people, minimize, defend, excuse, etc. This is why you never see major companies do it. It's the worst tactic and does not work. Long diatribes about how this "poor woman" who lied/frauded/faked/fooled just makes it worse.

Either say nothing, let it blow over, or apologize and say "I will learn from it" or "have rehab" like 1000s of other celebrities who have messed up.

She is not broken and likely is not impacted by this because her behavior demonstrates she doesn't think she is wrong. So, the idea that the mean social media people are destroying her is silly. In another month, she'll just be another person who did something dumb. And she will return to posting her narcissistic pictures on her social media because she does not think she is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

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I feel badly for Hillary. It's an odd story, and she won't live it down.

I am not into the schadenfreude of it and am not a fan of the internet mobs and cancel culture of it. I do think she is getting more flack because of her body photos (which people are free to ignore, if they don't want to see).

I am fascinated in the story though, as she kept up her fabulist charade for so long. It's a weird news story distraction from the sad Covid news.

I am so curious if or how SNL will address it, considering Alec's relationship with them. SNL really should address it, I'd be bummed if they didn't, it would somehow harm the integrity of the show.

I also think Alec and Hilaria need to be in on the joke somehow with SNL, to move on. Donate to a good cause and lay low for a bit. Wow do they need better PR advice, or to COMPLY with their good PR advice if they are ignoring it.

It does seem that Alec loves her however. So she has that going for her.

I also admire how Ireland has handled it. She seems to have turned out well, and have a really healthy attitude. (Despite Alec's rage issues, and stepmother just 12 years older etc)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

But NOT at Harvard where Hayward claims to have worked.

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I find it a shame, really, that she fabricated a Spanish identity when her own true story is really interesting - it would have been so much more real and authentic if she put herself out there as what she really is: a highly privileged white girl from Boston, Yankee to the core, who was introduced to the Spanish culture at some point in her life, fell in love with it, and wanted to emulate and incorporate aspects of this culture into her own life as she became an adult and started her own family. Her children's Spanish names are beautiful, she herself is very attractive and speaks Spanish half-way decently - as she seems to just really enjoy Spanish culture as a Yankee American, why not just say it? There is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in having your children be bi-lingual, as the Spanish language is truly beautiful - why not just say that she wanted her children to be able to speak the language that she fell in love with as an American, and just leave it at that?
Now, of course, not sure if Alec would have been interested in an American girl from Boston, but if her looks were enough to attract him and have him ask her out, why couldn't she just be herself and let it go from there? It must be exhausting to keep up this charade...I don't know how she's done it for 8 years, no wonder the fake accent comes and goes.
In the long run this is probably the best thing that has ever happened to her, and her relationship to Alec, and her relationship to the truth and who she really is. I would think it would be soul-crushing to pretend that you are something you are not, with the caveat being, of course, that if she really believes what she's saying, and has denied and negated her true identity as a white girl who grew up in Boston, then this situation has an entirely different meaning and solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

But NOT at Harvard where Hayward claims to have worked.

I posted a link above from BIDMC with doctors using the associate professor title with no mention of clinical. I don’t know the specifics of her institution or her job title, but some clinical faculty use the title associate professor at Harvard on official hospital sites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for Hillary. It's an odd story, and she won't live it down.

I am not into the schadenfreude of it and am not a fan of the internet mobs and cancel culture of it. I do think she is getting more flack because of her body photos (which people are free to ignore, if they don't want to see).

I am fascinated in the story though, as she kept up her fabulist charade for so long. It's a weird news story distraction from the sad Covid news.

I am so curious if or how SNL will address it, considering Alec's relationship with them. SNL really should address it, I'd be bummed if they didn't, it would somehow harm the integrity of the show.

I also think Alec and Hilaria need to be in on the joke somehow with SNL, to move on. Donate to a good cause and lay low for a bit. Wow do they need better PR advice, or to COMPLY with their good PR advice if they are ignoring it.

It does seem that Alec loves her however. So she has that going for her.

I also admire how Ireland has handled it. She seems to have turned out well, and have a really healthy attitude. (Despite Alec's rage issues, and stepmother just 12 years older etc)

NO ONE cares about her body! Seriously, NO ONE.

Except her, and Alec.

She is not that hot. There are hundreds of thousands of smoking hot women on the internet.

Hilary is getting flack because she is narcissist and people tend to dislike them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for Hillary. It's an odd story, and she won't live it down. Indeed like the Little Pig story that lives on

I am not into the schadenfreude of it and am not a fan of the internet mobs and cancel culture of it. I do think she is getting more flack because of her body photos (which people are free to ignore, if they don't want to see). She exploits her children and claims to be "authentic"

I am fascinated in the story though, as she kept up her fabulist charade for so long. It's a weird news story distraction from the sad Covid news. Datalounge was on this before DCUM

I am so curious if or how SNL will address it, considering Alec's relationship with them. SNL really should address it, I'd be bummed if they didn't, it would somehow harm the integrity of the show. SNL has NO integrity. LOL

I also think Alec and Hilaria need to be in on the joke somehow with SNL, to move on. Donate to a good cause and lay low for a bit. Wow do they need better PR advice, or to COMPLY with their good PR advice if they are ignoring it. They got great advice but it included telling the truth which they both refuse to do

It does seem that Alec loves her however. So she has that going for her. It's a folie a deux, not love

I also admire how Ireland has handled it. She seems to have turned out well, and have a really healthy attitude. (Despite Alec's rage issues, and stepmother just 12 years older etc) Reread what Ireland said. It's not healthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

But NOT at Harvard where Hayward claims to have worked.

Indeed especialy when Kathryn was there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it a shame, really, that she fabricated a Spanish identity when her own true story is really interesting - it would have been so much more real and authentic if she put herself out there as what she really is: a highly privileged white girl from Boston, Yankee to the core, who was introduced to the Spanish culture at some point in her life, fell in love with it, and wanted to emulate and incorporate aspects of this culture into her own life as she became an adult and started her own family. Her children's Spanish names are beautiful, she herself is very attractive and speaks Spanish half-way decently - as she seems to just really enjoy Spanish culture as a Yankee American, why not just say it? There is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in having your children be bi-lingual, as the Spanish language is truly beautiful - why not just say that she wanted her children to be able to speak the language that she fell in love with as an American, and just leave it at that?
Now, of course, not sure if Alec would have been interested in an American girl from Boston, but if her looks were enough to attract him and have him ask her out, why couldn't she just be herself and let it go from there? It must be exhausting to keep up this charade...I don't know how she's done it for 8 years, no wonder the fake accent comes and goes.
In the long run this is probably the best thing that has ever happened to her, and her relationship to Alec, and her relationship to the truth and who she really is. I would think it would be soul-crushing to pretend that you are something you are not, with the caveat being, of course, that if she really believes what she's saying, and has denied and negated her true identity as a white girl who grew up in Boston, then this situation has an entirely different meaning and solution.

It WOULD be a good thing if Hilary and Alec owned what they've done. But they are doing the opposite. This will destroy both of them .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel badly for Hillary. It's an odd story, and she won't live it down. Indeed like the Little Pig story that lives on

I am not into the schadenfreude of it and am not a fan of the internet mobs and cancel culture of it. I do think she is getting more flack because of her body photos (which people are free to ignore, if they don't want to see). She exploits her children and claims to be "authentic"

I am fascinated in the story though, as she kept up her fabulist charade for so long. It's a weird news story distraction from the sad Covid news. Datalounge was on this before DCUM

I am so curious if or how SNL will address it, considering Alec's relationship with them. SNL really should address it, I'd be bummed if they didn't, it would somehow harm the integrity of the show. SNL has NO integrity. LOL

I also think Alec and Hilaria need to be in on the joke somehow with SNL, to move on. Donate to a good cause and lay low for a bit. Wow do they need better PR advice, or to COMPLY with their good PR advice if they are ignoring it. They got great advice but it included telling the truth which they both refuse to do

It does seem that Alec loves her however. So she has that going for her. It's a folie a deux, not love

I also admire how Ireland has handled it. She seems to have turned out well, and have a really healthy attitude. (Despite Alec's rage issues, and stepmother just 12 years older etc) Reread what Ireland said. It's not healthy.

PP...what does she do specifically that exploits her children? I have never followed her so not sure what she does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it a shame, really, that she fabricated a Spanish identity when her own true story is really interesting - it would have been so much more real and authentic if she put herself out there as what she really is: a highly privileged white girl from Boston, Yankee to the core, who was introduced to the Spanish culture at some point in her life, fell in love with it, and wanted to emulate and incorporate aspects of this culture into her own life as she became an adult and started her own family. Her children's Spanish names are beautiful, she herself is very attractive and speaks Spanish half-way decently - as she seems to just really enjoy Spanish culture as a Yankee American, why not just say it? There is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in having your children be bi-lingual, as the Spanish language is truly beautiful - why not just say that she wanted her children to be able to speak the language that she fell in love with as an American, and just leave it at that?
Now, of course, not sure if Alec would have been interested in an American girl from Boston, but if her looks were enough to attract him and have him ask her out, why couldn't she just be herself and let it go from there? It must be exhausting to keep up this charade...I don't know how she's done it for 8 years, no wonder the fake accent comes and goes.
In the long run this is probably the best thing that has ever happened to her, and her relationship to Alec, and her relationship to the truth and who she really is. I would think it would be soul-crushing to pretend that you are something you are not, with the caveat being, of course, that if she really believes what she's saying, and has denied and negated her true identity as a white girl who grew up in Boston, then this situation has an entirely different meaning and solution.

Agreed. Her background was actually really fine in itself. Never believed she was truly Spanish, it always seemed contrived/an act. She isn't drop dead gorgeous but she's cute, they seem to like each other a lot, and she seems to have a fiesty personality. It's too bad for her that she felt she had to be somebody she isn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hilaria's mother was not a "professor at Harvard Medical School." She supervised a few residents at Mass General. My mother-in-law knew her.

Whaaa?????

In defense of the mother, my husband was at Beth Israel when we lived in Boston and did the same and everyone who supervised residents was called associate professor at Harvard. Her mom was a legit doctor with a career.

Agree with this

This is how it works in academic medicine. My DH is an attending physician at Children’s; only by virtue of that fact, he also has an academic appointment as an associate professor at GWU.

My husband also is at Children's and had the same GW title. But the title is *clinical* associate professor, which is different from (tenure-track) professor. Same goes for research professor, as I was in my last job—it’s different from the title of professor. If she left off the clinical part, I’d say it’s not a total lie, just misleading. Clinical tract professors don’t have teaching and research expectations, although they supervise trainees.

So, quite a Children’s doctors are actually tenure track, but also the “associate professor” title without clinical in front of it is used by GW itself even for clinical professors. Here is the head of my husband’s division, note that her title does not specify clinical: https://apps.smhs.gwu.edu/smhs/facultydirectory/profile.cfm?empName=Joelle%20Simpson&FacID=2043024698. I just checked my husband’s and it is the same. Feel free to check your husband in the directory. Honestly, you’re wrong about how the title is used in academic medicine.

But NOT at Harvard where Hayward claims to have worked.

I posted a link above from BIDMC with doctors using the associate professor title with no mention of clinical. I don’t know the specifics of her institution or her job title, but some clinical faculty use the title associate professor at Harvard on official hospital sites.

Here’s the link from MGH where her mom worked. All the staff list their Harvard assistant (what Kathryn was)/Associate/Full professorships. Not a “clinical” in sight. I don’t know why people are insisting that there’s deception there. There isn’t. https://www.massgeneral.org/faculty-development/about/team

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it a shame, really, that she fabricated a Spanish identity when her own true story is really interesting - it would have been so much more real and authentic if she put herself out there as what she really is: a highly privileged white girl from Boston, Yankee to the core, who was introduced to the Spanish culture at some point in her life, fell in love with it, and wanted to emulate and incorporate aspects of this culture into her own life as she became an adult and started her own family. Her children's Spanish names are beautiful, she herself is very attractive and speaks Spanish half-way decently - as she seems to just really enjoy Spanish culture as a Yankee American, why not just say it? There is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in having your children be bi-lingual, as the Spanish language is truly beautiful - why not just say that she wanted her children to be able to speak the language that she fell in love with as an American, and just leave it at that?
Now, of course, not sure if Alec would have been interested in an American girl from Boston, but if her looks were enough to attract him and have him ask her out, why couldn't she just be herself and let it go from there? It must be exhausting to keep up this charade...I don't know how she's done it for 8 years, no wonder the fake accent comes and goes.
In the long run this is probably the best thing that has ever happened to her, and her relationship to Alec, and her relationship to the truth and who she really is. I would think it would be soul-crushing to pretend that you are something you are not, with the caveat being, of course, that if she really believes what she's saying, and has denied and negated her true identity as a white girl who grew up in Boston, then this situation has an entirely different meaning and solution.

Alec didn’t fall in love with Hillary, he fell in love with Hilaria. I predict major therapy will be necessary to overcome this hurdle. He looks like an old fool.