New Budget Recommendations -- eliminate AAP busing and centers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, it doesn't help you now, but know that the it sure feels good later in high school when the GE kids outperform the "gifted" kids academically! And yes, the kids remember.

Yes, hang in there PP. You'll show 'em. You'll show 'em all! Please report back "later in high school" to rub our noses in it.

And not the PP, but make sure your GE kid rubs by AHDH highly anxious kids none in it (even though she has GE friends and would never in a million years make them feel bad about different placement). Nice values to teach your kid.

This is unintelligible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, blanket statements about FCPS are difficult as there are many Center schools without the environment received by the PP.

The post you're referring to was not a "blanket statement." It was a description of the specific experience my child (and others at his school) experienced, and as such, is perfectly valid. The point is that if AAP kids don't have to jump through ridiculous hoops in order to switch schools, then no other children should have to either.

But your DC and the AAP kids at the Center are treated EXSCTLY ALIKE. Neither gets to transfer. Cea ter based AAP kids don't get to opt for LLIV, even if it is best for them.

Actually a few center based AAP kids did opt for LLIV at a nearby elementary school because the center wasn't for them. [/quote

+1

And LLIV was started specifically due to some Center-eligible children at Beechtree ES not wanting to leave their local school to go to the Center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, blanket statements about FCPS are difficult as there are many Center schools without the environment received by the PP.

The post you're referring to was not a "blanket statement." It was a description of the specific experience my child (and others at his school) experienced, and as such, is perfectly valid. The point is that if AAP kids don't have to jump through ridiculous hoops in order to switch schools, then no other children should have to either.

But your DC and the AAP kids at the Center are treated EXSCTLY ALIKE. Neither gets to transfer. Cea ter based AAP kids don't get to opt for LLIV, even if it is best for them.

Actually a few center based AAP kids did opt for LLIV at a nearby elementary school because the center wasn't for them.

So nice to know that AAP kids are entitled to a choice between the base school or center. Gotta make sure their every "need" is met, but forget about the needs of GE students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

Your GE kids will perform some AAP kids. Some AAP will do better than your GE kid. Why in the world would you not root for all kids at your HS to succeed? And teach your kids to do the same. It's hyper competitive jackasses like you (it's good if my kid does well, but so much better if your kid does badly) that are ruining FCPS.

Omg yes, the parents in this thread are what is making FCPS the way that it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, blanket statements about FCPS are difficult as there are many Center schools without the environment received by the PP.

The post you're referring to was not a "blanket statement." It was a description of the specific experience my child (and others at his school) experienced, and as such, is perfectly valid. The point is that if AAP kids don't have to jump through ridiculous hoops in order to switch schools, then no other children should have to either.

But your DC and the AAP kids at the Center are treated EXSCTLY ALIKE. Neither gets to transfer. Cea ter based AAP kids don't get to opt for LLIV, even if it is best for them.

Actually a few center based AAP kids did opt for LLIV at a nearby elementary school because the center wasn't for them.

So nice to know that AAP kids are entitled to a choice between the base school or center. Gotta make sure their every "need" is met, but forget about the needs of GE students.

GE and AAP kids aren't allowed to transfer if the AAP center is their base school. The students that elected to go from their base center school to a LLIV school would have had to submit extra paperwork to prove something beyond AAP needs. I've never heard of this happening, but I suppose it can. Honestly some of the GE parents here are way crazier than the AAP parents with their ridiculous competitive comments. I thought they were supposed to be the normal ones.

[Anonymous]

And all this fighting is over $1 million for bussing which is probably negated by the high class sizes in AAP classes? Do you have any idea how much is being spent for level 1 and 2 special needs and ESOL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring. Amen to this-my smart but ADHD 2 E kid is WAY harder to parent on a day to day basis-would gladly sacrifice some IQ points for greater normalcy in both of our lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring. Amen to this-my smart but ADHD 2 E kid is WAY harder to parent on a day to day basis-would gladly sacrifice some IQ points for greater normalcy in both of our lives.

Apparently, now this thread is a contest for who has it worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring. Amen to this-my smart but ADHD 2 E kid is WAY harder to parent on a day to day basis-would gladly sacrifice some IQ points for greater normalcy in both of our lives.

Apparently, now this thread is a contest for who has it worst.

Come now, that's what every thread here is about ultimately. You're just feeling left out for a change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring. Amen to this-my smart but ADHD 2 E kid is WAY harder to parent on a day to day basis-would gladly sacrifice some IQ points for greater normalcy in both of our lives.

Apparently, now this thread is a contest for who has it worst.

Come now, that's what every thread here is about ultimately. You're just feeling left out for a change.

It's sad that as an adult you feel justified making fun of serious issues that some families face. Shows your maturity level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cheer every GE kid who outperforms the gifted kids. All-life-long. Gifted community, we do not wish you well.

(though hope the suicide comment wasn't a genuine concern)

I am glad you added the parenthetical, as it is a genuine concern for my DD.

I'm a pp, a few pages back, with a DC that is heading down this path I fear. She's only in 4th grade now, but she falls into a highly-gifted personality type that has a higher chance of dropping out of school, abusing drugs/alcohol, suicide, etc.

She has an IG over 150 and came home from her base school crying most days (from K-2) from being made fun of everyday. The center has been so much better since she has found a few others kids with similar personalities/academic interests.

I have more fears about this DC growing into a productive part of society than my GE kid who is smart, funny, and manages relationships better in 1st grade than my older one in 4th grade.

You know, everyone watches Big Bang Theory and thinks it's funny, but when you have a kid like Sheldon it's not so funny with all of the issues that level of IQ and personality can bring. Amen to this-my smart but ADHD 2 E kid is WAY harder to parent on a day to day basis-would gladly sacrifice some IQ points for greater normalcy in both of our lives.

Apparently, now this thread is a contest for who has it worst.

Come now, that's what every thread here is about ultimately. You're just feeling left out for a change.

Not really, I just don't post about it.

[Anonymous]

The incidence rate for these stunningly gifted yet amazingly fragile children who depend on AAP to stay on an even keel seems very high. Are there not similar kids in the Arlington or Loudoun school systems who somehow find a way to navigate childhood without bloated gifted programs that place other children at a disadvantage? Oy vey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, blanket statements about FCPS are difficult as there are many Center schools without the environment received by the PP.

The post you're referring to was not a "blanket statement." It was a description of the specific experience my child (and others at his school) experienced, and as such, is perfectly valid. The point is that if AAP kids don't have to jump through ridiculous hoops in order to switch schools, then no other children should have to either.

But your DC and the AAP kids at the Center are treated EXSCTLY ALIKE. Neither gets to transfer. Cea ter based AAP kids don't get to opt for LLIV, even if it is best for them.

Actually a few center based AAP kids did opt for LLIV at a nearby elementary school because the center wasn't for them.

So nice to know that AAP kids are entitled to a choice between the base school or center. Gotta make sure their every "need" is met, but forget about the needs of GE students.

GE and AAP kids aren't allowed to transfer if the AAP center is their base school. The students that elected to go from their base center school to a LLIV school would have had to submit extra paperwork to prove something beyond AAP needs. I've never heard of this happening, but I suppose it can. Honestly some of the GE parents here are way crazier than the AAP parents with their ridiculous competitive comments. I thought they were supposed to be the normal ones.

You can thank AAP for this divisiveness. This behavior never occurred when the program was GT and only accepted a fraction of the number of kids that AAP currently accepts. Accepting more and more mainstream students, rather than only the few who actually need a special program, is going to cause resentment. There's far too much overlap and too many similarities between the vast majority of AAP and Gen Ed students to make a definitive dividing line between them, and it's no wonder parents (and kids) are sick of it.