Melanie Meren's FB post about the calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe I just read all of this. This is... a lot.

The idea that the school board/school system is somehow responsible for easing the financial burden of child care costs (or the costs of ANYTHING outside of school is ludicrous. Your child is your financial responsibility. It's called being a parent. The fact that needs to be explained to people who are currently parents is incredibly sad.

For what it's worth, the Virginia Department of Education has a Child Care Subsidy Program. Explain your circumstance and try applying.

Here is the link for those who actually need it: https://www.childcare.virginia.gov/families/paying-for-child-care

I truly feel bad for the people struggling, but help/solutions are out there beyond hoping that the schoolboard will change the schedule on the sole basis that it financially helps families. Hope isn't a plan. But YOU do need a plan on how to financially be responsible for YOUR child.

The calendar is released well in advance. There are numerous changes YOU can make as a parent for YOUR child to better be able to handle the financial burden of increased childcare needs besides hoping for someone else to help YOU afford YOUR child.

Own? Move to a smaller house with less of a mortgage. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Rent? Move to a cheaper apartment. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Have a car payment? Sell it and buy a cheaper car. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Car paid off? Sell it and buy a used older car. Use the money you made off of your car sale to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat at home? Shop at cheaper grocery stores and buy in bulk. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat out? Eat out a few times less per month. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

These are just a few of MANY solutions/sacrifices that YOU as a parent should be willing to make to financially support YOUR child.

Are these difficult changes? Yes, and I'm sure there will be lots of arguments why they're preposterous ideas to some and how they shouldn't have to make them. But again, it's YOUR child and YOU should be willing to do anything to be able to financially provide the best YOU can.

The hard truth is, if it was that important of an issue or was really hurting your pockets that much, you would. But it's easier to anonymously complain on the internet, send some emails to your school board politicians, and rely on hope.


I'm so happy your husband can afford to pay your nanny.


My wife and I pay child care for three kids. Both work full time. I almost six figures pretax and my wife makes less than 50k pretax. We factor childcare expenses into our budget at the beginning of the school year and put that money in a separate account each paycheck. We utilize the school calendar to know what random days we’ll need extra care and factor in 11 days extra for each of the potential snow days. If we don’t have the snow days, we put the excess money towards our family vacation in the summer.

We’re not rich by any means for this area, but we make it work. Some years we have more money left over, some we have less. Some months we eat out more, some months we eat out less. We chose to have 3 kids and their wellbeing comes first. The last thing we’re going to do is consider them or their needs a financial burden. It’s just part of being their parents.


So what would you do with an extra $5000 this year?

Presumably, as good parents, it would go to help your kids, right?

What is it that an erratic calendar does that is worth $5000 to you?


An extra $5000? Currently we’d put it towards a low cost starter car for our oldest. She’ll be getting her license soon and it would help us all if she had her own vehicle to drive. She already has a job she’s been saving money at for insurance, gas, and property taxes, but having her able to drive there herself and help with her siblings needs would be beneficial to herself and the whole family.



So why is supporting an erratic calendar, and resisting any efforts for elected officials to be accountable to the priorities of their constituents more important than your oldest getting a car?


Well, for starters, changing the current calendar would not save my family $5000 a year.



Right, I imagine as the parent of someone approaching driving age that is the case. If you can put yourself in the position of people with elementary age children, why should they support an erratic Calendar – – which does cost many of them $5000 or more per year— instead of advocating for better for their families?

I’m really curious how many days you’re stripping from the calendar for these $5k of savings. Is this the same poster who blamed FCPS for having to pay their nanny overtime because they refuse to utilize the childcare offered during early releases?


I mean, obviously it’s going to vary based on circumstances, but assuming 2 to 3 children and approximately 20 optional days off? You’d have to be paying peanuts not to reach $5000. That’s before early release. Sure next year will be less expensive but it’s within the board’s power to make sure that no year is this expensive again. The people I know who are most disgusted are the federal employees who were not getting paid in October and November and in November had only one week that they did not have to shell out for childcare.
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At the end of the day, some people don’t want to rely on other people to support their kids. Call it tax, call them listening to their constituents, call it whatever you want.

Breaking it down to the most basic terms:

You want the school board / school system to make schedule changes to help you save money on child care.

The other person think parents should do whatever it takes to make it work.


Some people were raised to support themselves and who they bring into the world on their own. Some people would rather struggle than ask for help and that’s fine too.

Different morals for different people.

No one is wrong, no one is right. I don’t think you’re going to change each others opinions.
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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, some people don’t want to rely on other people to support their kids. Call it tax, call them listening to their constituents, call it whatever you want.

Breaking it down to the most basic terms:

You want the school board / school system to make schedule changes to help you save money on child care.

The other person think parents should do whatever it takes to make it work.


Some people were raised to support themselves and who they bring into the world on their own. Some people would rather struggle than ask for help and that’s fine too.

Different morals for different people.

No one is wrong, no one is right. I don’t think you’re going to change each others opinions.


I think if the schedule was optimum for their children's education, most people would support it. However, the schedule is not optimum--in fact, it is detrimental to the education of our children.
That is the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe I just read all of this. This is... a lot.

The idea that the school board/school system is somehow responsible for easing the financial burden of child care costs (or the costs of ANYTHING outside of school is ludicrous. Your child is your financial responsibility. It's called being a parent. The fact that needs to be explained to people who are currently parents is incredibly sad.

For what it's worth, the Virginia Department of Education has a Child Care Subsidy Program. Explain your circumstance and try applying.

Here is the link for those who actually need it: https://www.childcare.virginia.gov/families/paying-for-child-care

I truly feel bad for the people struggling, but help/solutions are out there beyond hoping that the schoolboard will change the schedule on the sole basis that it financially helps families. Hope isn't a plan. But YOU do need a plan on how to financially be responsible for YOUR child.

The calendar is released well in advance. There are numerous changes YOU can make as a parent for YOUR child to better be able to handle the financial burden of increased childcare needs besides hoping for someone else to help YOU afford YOUR child.

Own? Move to a smaller house with less of a mortgage. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Rent? Move to a cheaper apartment. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Have a car payment? Sell it and buy a cheaper car. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Car paid off? Sell it and buy a used older car. Use the money you made off of your car sale to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat at home? Shop at cheaper grocery stores and buy in bulk. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat out? Eat out a few times less per month. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

These are just a few of MANY solutions/sacrifices that YOU as a parent should be willing to make to financially support YOUR child.

Are these difficult changes? Yes, and I'm sure there will be lots of arguments why they're preposterous ideas to some and how they shouldn't have to make them. But again, it's YOUR child and YOU should be willing to do anything to be able to financially provide the best YOU can.

The hard truth is, if it was that important of an issue or was really hurting your pockets that much, you would. But it's easier to anonymously complain on the internet, send some emails to your school board politicians, and rely on hope.


I'm so happy your husband can afford to pay your nanny.


My wife and I pay child care for three kids. Both work full time. I almost six figures pretax and my wife makes less than 50k pretax. We factor childcare expenses into our budget at the beginning of the school year and put that money in a separate account each paycheck. We utilize the school calendar to know what random days we’ll need extra care and factor in 11 days extra for each of the potential snow days. If we don’t have the snow days, we put the excess money towards our family vacation in the summer.

We’re not rich by any means for this area, but we make it work. Some years we have more money left over, some we have less. Some months we eat out more, some months we eat out less. We chose to have 3 kids and their wellbeing comes first. The last thing we’re going to do is consider them or their needs a financial burden. It’s just part of being their parents.


So what would you do with an extra $5000 this year?

Presumably, as good parents, it would go to help your kids, right?

What is it that an erratic calendar does that is worth $5000 to you?


An extra $5000? Currently we’d put it towards a low cost starter car for our oldest. She’ll be getting her license soon and it would help us all if she had her own vehicle to drive. She already has a job she’s been saving money at for insurance, gas, and property taxes, but having her able to drive there herself and help with her siblings needs would be beneficial to herself and the whole family.



So why is supporting an erratic calendar, and resisting any efforts for elected officials to be accountable to the priorities of their constituents more important than your oldest getting a car?


Well, for starters, changing the current calendar would not save my family $5000 a year.



Right, I imagine as the parent of someone approaching driving age that is the case. If you can put yourself in the position of people with elementary age children, why should they support an erratic Calendar – – which does cost many of them $5000 or more per year— instead of advocating for better for their families?


I have two elementary aged children…

I’m just a firm believer that I should not expect the public school system / the politicians on the school board to help ME financially support MY children. It’s really that simple.


Except...you think their educations should be free and most likely hit certain standards that are completely unrelatable for most of the United States. It was not that long ago that having children meant you would pay school fees and it most of the world, it's still like that. So you DO expect public offices to support your children financially. Stop pretending because you don't want one specific change that you are carrying the entire financial burden of having children yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, some people don’t want to rely on other people to support their kids. Call it tax, call them listening to their constituents, call it whatever you want.

Breaking it down to the most basic terms:

You want the school board / school system to make schedule changes to help you save money on child care.

The other person think parents should do whatever it takes to make it work.


Some people were raised to support themselves and who they bring into the world on their own. Some people would rather struggle than ask for help and that’s fine too.

Different morals for different people.

No one is wrong, no one is right. I don’t think you’re going to change each others opinions.



Buy large parents already do “whatever it takes” to make it work. 2025- 2026 has shown that parents resent being treated like garbage by their school board.

Those parents who can’t do whatever it takes? Those kids are home alone and there is no school.
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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, some people don’t want to rely on other people to support their kids. Call it tax, call them listening to their constituents, call it whatever you want.

Breaking it down to the most basic terms:

You want the school board / school system to make schedule changes to help you save money on child care.

The other person think parents should do whatever it takes to make it work.


Some people were raised to support themselves and who they bring into the world on their own. Some people would rather struggle than ask for help and that’s fine too.

Different morals for different people.

No one is wrong, no one is right. I don’t think you’re going to change each others opinions.


I think if the schedule was optimum for their children's education, most people would support it. However, the schedule is not optimum--in fact, it is detrimental to the education of our children.
That is the problem.


Prove it. Facts, hard data. Not opinions.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe I just read all of this. This is... a lot.

The idea that the school board/school system is somehow responsible for easing the financial burden of child care costs (or the costs of ANYTHING outside of school is ludicrous. Your child is your financial responsibility. It's called being a parent. The fact that needs to be explained to people who are currently parents is incredibly sad.

For what it's worth, the Virginia Department of Education has a Child Care Subsidy Program. Explain your circumstance and try applying.

Here is the link for those who actually need it: https://www.childcare.virginia.gov/families/paying-for-child-care

I truly feel bad for the people struggling, but help/solutions are out there beyond hoping that the schoolboard will change the schedule on the sole basis that it financially helps families. Hope isn't a plan. But YOU do need a plan on how to financially be responsible for YOUR child.

The calendar is released well in advance. There are numerous changes YOU can make as a parent for YOUR child to better be able to handle the financial burden of increased childcare needs besides hoping for someone else to help YOU afford YOUR child.

Own? Move to a smaller house with less of a mortgage. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Rent? Move to a cheaper apartment. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Have a car payment? Sell it and buy a cheaper car. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Car paid off? Sell it and buy a used older car. Use the money you made off of your car sale to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat at home? Shop at cheaper grocery stores and buy in bulk. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

Eat out? Eat out a few times less per month. Use the savings to offset the increased childcare costs.

These are just a few of MANY solutions/sacrifices that YOU as a parent should be willing to make to financially support YOUR child.

Are these difficult changes? Yes, and I'm sure there will be lots of arguments why they're preposterous ideas to some and how they shouldn't have to make them. But again, it's YOUR child and YOU should be willing to do anything to be able to financially provide the best YOU can.

The hard truth is, if it was that important of an issue or was really hurting your pockets that much, you would. But it's easier to anonymously complain on the internet, send some emails to your school board politicians, and rely on hope.


I'm so happy your husband can afford to pay your nanny.


My wife and I pay child care for three kids. Both work full time. I almost six figures pretax and my wife makes less than 50k pretax. We factor childcare expenses into our budget at the beginning of the school year and put that money in a separate account each paycheck. We utilize the school calendar to know what random days we’ll need extra care and factor in 11 days extra for each of the potential snow days. If we don’t have the snow days, we put the excess money towards our family vacation in the summer.

We’re not rich by any means for this area, but we make it work. Some years we have more money left over, some we have less. Some months we eat out more, some months we eat out less. We chose to have 3 kids and their wellbeing comes first. The last thing we’re going to do is consider them or their needs a financial burden. It’s just part of being their parents.


So what would you do with an extra $5000 this year?

Presumably, as good parents, it would go to help your kids, right?

What is it that an erratic calendar does that is worth $5000 to you?


An extra $5000? Currently we’d put it towards a low cost starter car for our oldest. She’ll be getting her license soon and it would help us all if she had her own vehicle to drive. She already has a job she’s been saving money at for insurance, gas, and property taxes, but having her able to drive there herself and help with her siblings needs would be beneficial to herself and the whole family.



So why is supporting an erratic calendar, and resisting any efforts for elected officials to be accountable to the priorities of their constituents more important than your oldest getting a car?


Well, for starters, changing the current calendar would not save my family $5000 a year.



Right, I imagine as the parent of someone approaching driving age that is the case. If you can put yourself in the position of people with elementary age children, why should they support an erratic Calendar – – which does cost many of them $5000 or more per year— instead of advocating for better for their families?


I have two elementary aged children…

I’m just a firm believer that I should not expect the public school system / the politicians on the school board to help ME financially support MY children. It’s really that simple.


Except...you think their educations should be free and most likely hit certain standards that are completely unrelatable for most of the United States. It was not that long ago that having children meant you would pay school fees and it most of the world, it's still like that. So you DO expect public offices to support your children financially. Stop pretending because you don't want one specific change that you are carrying the entire financial burden of having children yourself.


I actually vehemently disagree with literally all of what you say I think. I would happily pay school fees, another way for me to help financially contribute to my children (not the other way around). I’m also incredibly realistic about the education they receive in FCPS and what standards FCPS should uphold financially and ethically, but thanks for telling me what I think.

I’m sure you make your spouse incredibly happy with that trait!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, some people don’t want to rely on other people to support their kids. Call it tax, call them listening to their constituents, call it whatever you want.

Breaking it down to the most basic terms:

You want the school board / school system to make schedule changes to help you save money on child care.

The other person think parents should do whatever it takes to make it work.


Some people were raised to support themselves and who they bring into the world on their own. Some people would rather struggle than ask for help and that’s fine too.

Different morals for different people.

No one is wrong, no one is right. I don’t think you’re going to change each others opinions.


I think if the schedule was optimum for their children's education, most people would support it. However, the schedule is not optimum--in fact, it is detrimental to the education of our children.
That is the problem.


Prove it. Facts, hard data. Not opinions.


Dp. Where's your hard data?
Anonymous
I don't know anyone who pays for care on days off. The parents usually just trade using vacation days, telework if possible, use grandparents, or team up with friends.
Anonymous
This entire thread boils down to:

1) Jews and Muslims shouldn't get holidays.

and

2) I don't want my kids at home with me during federal holidays.

That's pretty much it.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who pays for care on days off. The parents usually just trade using vacation days, telework if possible, use grandparents, or team up with friends.


You know why they do that? Because finding child care on erratic, random days is very difficult.

The calendar is not good for students and their education and that's my main problem with it. I would actually PAY to have education be at the forefront of FCPS. I have HS students so childcare is no longer a concern for me but both my husband and children find this calendar detrimental. "It's been hard to lock in this year" is a refrain I hear a lot from my kids and their friends. We don't need all these days off to relax and sleep.


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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread boils down to:

1) Jews and Muslims shouldn't get holidays.

and

2) I don't want my kids at home with me during federal holidays.

That's pretty much it.


Grow up!
Anonymous
lol teachers get a 3-4 day work week and summers off, nevermind parents work 5 days a week+ funding schools fully with heavy tax burdens
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know anyone who pays for care on days off. The parents usually just trade using vacation days, telework if possible, use grandparents, or team up with friends.


You know why they do that? Because finding child care on erratic, random days is very difficult.

The calendar is not good for students and their education and that's my main problem with it. I would actually PAY to have education be at the forefront of FCPS. I have HS students so childcare is no longer a concern for me but both my husband and children find this calendar detrimental. "It's been hard to lock in this year" is a refrain I hear a lot from my kids and their friends. We don't need all these days off to relax and sleep.




There it is again. The calendar is not good for students and their education.

PROVE IT. Where is the data that suggests that? Are there lower test scores? Lower overall GPAs? Are reading levels progressing slower? Lower SAT scores? Lower graduation rates? Where are the actual FACTS? Not your opinion or your anecdotal evidence based on your kid and their friends. Real hard data.

Because if you don’t have that you have nothing but your opinion and everyone knows what they say about opinions…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:lol teachers get a 3-4 day work week and summers off, nevermind parents work 5 days a week+ funding schools fully with heavy tax burdens


Soooo now teachers aren’t responsible for paying their taxes?
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