Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

Taylor this man is not interested in you.

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Don't forget the private boat date they took after her concert. Yeah, totally PR.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

Travis was getting a lot of hate from the Swifties so Taylor sent a private jet to get him.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis rather be with his bros than in Australia supporting Taylor.

He's not her dad. He has a life and work and commitments and goals. He they will reunite in the next week or so again and again and again and ....

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

Taylor this man is not interested in you.

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Don't forget the private boat date they took after her concert. Yeah, totally PR.

This is so cute!!!! Farewell boat kissing in the dark/privacy.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis rather be with his bros than in Australia supporting Taylor.

He's not her dad. He has a life and work and commitments and goals. He they will reunite in the next week or so again and again and again and ....

Unless he’s caught cheating in Vegas…

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Bingo. Travis has literally nothing to do. My husband and I were in a long distance relationship in our 20s and when we both could, we'd spend weeks straight together. Even if he's just lounging at her hotel suite while she's performing or whatever, if you're really in love, it would mean the world to come back to a hotel with your boyfriend at it and spend as many nights together in the same bed. This is such a fake relationship. They need to just give it a rest at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a much longer shelf life than he does. In 10yrs her music will still be on the radio. He will be “that guy from the Chiefs. Remember. You know who I’m talking about”

I don’t think he’s retiring this year. Once he does it will be interesting to see if the relationship can withstand life’s transitions.

It isn't going to last nearly that long lol. He left her last concert city ASAP to go back to Vegas and drink with the Mahomes. She is WAY more invested here.

It sounds like it was all a contractually-obligated visit to me, hence his miserable disposition. This is all really corny.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a much longer shelf life than he does. In 10yrs her music will still be on the radio. He will be “that guy from the Chiefs. Remember. You know who I’m talking about”

I don’t think he’s retiring this year. Once he does it will be interesting to see if the relationship can withstand life’s transitions.

It isn't going to last nearly that long lol. He left her last concert city ASAP to go back to Vegas and drink with the Mahomes. She is WAY more invested here.

It sounds like it was all a contractually-obligated visit to me, hence his miserable disposition. This is all really corny.

So miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

She did not break his routine. In season he goes to be each night a certain time (I think Sunday and Monday are different) and he has his schedule. She could not bother that. Here she has her schedule. They only get a limited time together. Trust me. There is no dude that is already rich that would put up with all of this for money. Dude is in love and they are likely getting married in short order. Expect proposal before football season and wedding after the next superbowl. Kids follow at 2 year inervals until they have 3-4.

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Bingo. Travis has literally nothing to do. My husband and I were in a long distance relationship in our 20s and when we both could, we'd spend weeks straight together. Even if he's just lounging at her hotel suite while she's performing or whatever, if you're really in love, it would mean the world to come back to a hotel with your boyfriend at it and spend as many nights together in the same bed. This is such a fake relationship. They need to just give it a rest at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:This gets said on every Taylor thread about the plane but come on. None of us want Taylor flying commercial. Any airport she goes near would be filled with fans - even the more obsessed ones buying tickets to wait with her at the gate. Can you imagine paparazzi interest in her bag items at the security line?

Any of us would be livid with the traffic and congestion and so on.

This came up because she sent a PJ for Kelce to take from Hawaii to Sydney. He could easily fly commercial, first class.

I don't actually care if Taylor uses a private jet for security reasons, and her actual job does require some flexibility in travel at times (enables her to play shows all around the world on a relatively tight schedule) so okay. But that doesn't mean I think there should be no accountability there. Private jet use does affect all of us because of the fossil fuels involved, and I think using one to pick up your boyfriend is pretty gross. Sorry.

Are all these people piling onto the billionaire men and their jets and space rockets and everything? Bezos, Gates, Musk and his 20 kids and exes, British Royal Family, all the insanely rich people I don't know by name...

Yes, if you ever read any media that wasn't related to Taylor Swift you would realize that many people criticize billionaires for their private jet usage. To the point that Musk sued the same guy Taylor is now threatening to sue over him publishing info about his private jet's flights. Honestly, Taylor has only just recently gotten pulled into the issue because she recently bought a really large and fancy private jet and she also recently reached billionaire status. Before her, it was mostly rich white guys being criticized, though I've also seen criticism of other celebrities like Tom Cruise and Oprah.

Often the criticism focuses on on the fact that these people have private jets, as many of us understand that as very public people, there are security risks associated with them flying commercial. But if you are wealthy enough to have a private jet, you are also often wealthy enough to do things like fly your jet to St. Louis for good barbecue, or fly it to London to pick up a painting you purchased at auction, without you being on it. Or fly it to Hawaii to give your NFL boyfriend a lift. And those kinds of activities have started attracting increasingly negative attention in recent years because of the implications for the climate. Most people's fossil fuel usage does not, on its own, impact climate change in any real sense, whether for good or bad. But people this wealthy can use such an enormous amount of fossil fuels via private jets that it's the rare situation where individual action could actually be more than a drop in the bucket. Thus the criticism and the pressure for these people to consider the environmental impacts of how they use their jets.

This is not a Taylor thing. At all. It's a rich people with private jet thing. And any one of them could avoid it by using chartered jets, if they wanted both more privacy and less criticism. But using chartered jets would be less convenient or glamorous, and also have less financial upside. It would also make it a lot harder for them to use their jets in truly frivolous ways.

So maybe we can retire the conversation in a gossip thread about Taylor Swift and her boyfriend. Who, despite everyone's claims are fake, keep ticking off the months one by one and they're still together.

What does longevity have to do with if something is fake? There are gay men in fake bearding relationships for years. There’s no time limit.

Throughout this thread there have been numerous "I predict they're done at xyz time." And they're wrong. Every time. Is the point.

I can't fathom putting so much energy into believing a relationship is fake. I mean, hell, it may be and my life won't change at all. Isn't it more fun to believe that people found love rather than finding every reason under the sun for a relationship to be fake?

The vast majority of those comments predicted it it would last at least through the Superbowl. It did. Very few people thought they would have broken up by the end of February.

I don't it's a fake relationship but I think they are shallow people who enjoy the attention and that it's more likely to fail than not. I find the belief that it's "true love" mildly comical given their respective dating history. I think they are both the type to enjoy intense initial love bombing type relationships and then flee as soon as reality sets in.

I also think had or not been for Covid and the fact that Taylor had kind of fled to London to escape criticism over the whole Kim/Kanye/snake thing (which I think she overreacted to), she would have lasted 2 years, tops, with Joe. I also think they were apart and she was seeing Matty Healy for a lot longer than people think.

Yup and she'd likely still be with Healy if her deranged fans hadn't lost their minds over it. I truly hope that one day Taylor, one of the wealthiest and most powerful women in the world, can stand up and date who she wants, regardless of TayTays / Swifties approval ratings.

Oh, come on. You really think that Taylor, in your words one of the wealthiest, most powerful women in the world, is going all in on Matt f-ing Healy? !?!?! Give me a break that was a fling.

He still probably doesn’t know what hit him LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:This gets said on every Taylor thread about the plane but come on. None of us want Taylor flying commercial. Any airport she goes near would be filled with fans - even the more obsessed ones buying tickets to wait with her at the gate. Can you imagine paparazzi interest in her bag items at the security line?

Any of us would be livid with the traffic and congestion and so on.

This came up because she sent a PJ for Kelce to take from Hawaii to Sydney. He could easily fly commercial, first class.

I don't actually care if Taylor uses a private jet for security reasons, and her actual job does require some flexibility in travel at times (enables her to play shows all around the world on a relatively tight schedule) so okay. But that doesn't mean I think there should be no accountability there. Private jet use does affect all of us because of the fossil fuels involved, and I think using one to pick up your boyfriend is pretty gross. Sorry.

Are all these people piling onto the billionaire men and their jets and space rockets and everything? Bezos, Gates, Musk and his 20 kids and exes, British Royal Family, all the insanely rich people I don't know by name...

Yes, if you ever read any media that wasn't related to Taylor Swift you would realize that many people criticize billionaires for their private jet usage. To the point that Musk sued the same guy Taylor is now threatening to sue over him publishing info about his private jet's flights. Honestly, Taylor has only just recently gotten pulled into the issue because she recently bought a really large and fancy private jet and she also recently reached billionaire status. Before her, it was mostly rich white guys being criticized, though I've also seen criticism of other celebrities like Tom Cruise and Oprah.

Often the criticism focuses on on the fact that these people have private jets, as many of us understand that as very public people, there are security risks associated with them flying commercial. But if you are wealthy enough to have a private jet, you are also often wealthy enough to do things like fly your jet to St. Louis for good barbecue, or fly it to London to pick up a painting you purchased at auction, without you being on it. Or fly it to Hawaii to give your NFL boyfriend a lift. And those kinds of activities have started attracting increasingly negative attention in recent years because of the implications for the climate. Most people's fossil fuel usage does not, on its own, impact climate change in any real sense, whether for good or bad. But people this wealthy can use such an enormous amount of fossil fuels via private jets that it's the rare situation where individual action could actually be more than a drop in the bucket. Thus the criticism and the pressure for these people to consider the environmental impacts of how they use their jets.

This is not a Taylor thing. At all. It's a rich people with private jet thing. And any one of them could avoid it by using chartered jets, if they wanted both more privacy and less criticism. But using chartered jets would be less convenient or glamorous, and also have less financial upside. It would also make it a lot harder for them to use their jets in truly frivolous ways.

So maybe we can retire the conversation in a gossip thread about Taylor Swift and her boyfriend. Who, despite everyone's claims are fake, keep ticking off the months one by one and they're still together.

What does longevity have to do with if something is fake? There are gay men in fake bearding relationships for years. There’s no time limit.

Throughout this thread there have been numerous "I predict they're done at xyz time." And they're wrong. Every time. Is the point.

I can't fathom putting so much energy into believing a relationship is fake. I mean, hell, it may be and my life won't change at all. Isn't it more fun to believe that people found love rather than finding every reason under the sun for a relationship to be fake?

The vast majority of those comments predicted it it would last at least through the Superbowl. It did. Very few people thought they would have broken up by the end of February.

I don't it's a fake relationship but I think they are shallow people who enjoy the attention and that it's more likely to fail than not. I find the belief that it's "true love" mildly comical given their respective dating history. I think they are both the type to enjoy intense initial love bombing type relationships and then flee as soon as reality sets in.

I also think had or not been for Covid and the fact that Taylor had kind of fled to London to escape criticism over the whole Kim/Kanye/snake thing (which I think she overreacted to), she would have lasted 2 years, tops, with Joe. I also think they were apart and she was seeing Matty Healy for a lot longer than people think.

Yes! I also think she was dating Healy for much longer than stated. They were telling each other they loved each other from the stage only last spring. If they’d only been dating a month—as they claimed—that’s weird they’d be professing love during their concerts at that point. So I think they were dating much longer.

I suspect she cheated on Joe because she was “working” with Matty on music, and Joe thought the two of them were only working together.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

She did not break his routine. In season he goes to be each night a certain time (I think Sunday and Monday are different) and he has his schedule. She could not bother that. Here she has her schedule. They only get a limited time together. Trust me. There is no dude that is already rich that would put up with all of this for money. Dude is in love and they are likely getting married in short order. Expect proposal before football season and wedding after the next superbowl. Kids follow at 2 year inervals until they have 3-4.

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Bingo. Travis has literally nothing to do. My husband and I were in a long distance relationship in our 20s and when we both could, we'd spend weeks straight together. Even if he's just lounging at her hotel suite while she's performing or whatever, if you're really in love, it would mean the world to come back to a hotel with your boyfriend at it and spend as many nights together in the same bed. This is such a fake relationship. They need to just give it a rest at this point.

I’m not getting the vibe that Taylor wants to settle down and have kids even though that’s the fairytale everyone is painting for her. I think she likes falling in love and serial dating. I don’t think this is fake, but I think it’s two people having fun and not really intending to get serious.

She’s also seen the fairy tale not work out for her closest buds. Weird that no one on DCUM is not talking about how Blake was at the Super Bowl without her wedding ring and there are tons of divorce rumors about Ryan and Blake amidst the absolutely painful article in Us this week where “anonymous sources” gush about their marriage and that they don’t use nannies (OMG THEY HAVE A TEAM OF NANNIES). I don’t think it will happen before the Deadpool hype dies down but I predict in the next one or two years, we will get an announcement.

Taylor is happiest with her squad. It has seemingly worked out for Jen Aniston and frankly been great for her career.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

Taylor this man is not interested in you.

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Don't forget the private boat date they took after her concert. Yeah, totally PR.

This is so cute!!!! Farewell boat kissing in the dark/privacy.

Yes, very private, that's why we are looking at photos of it.

Come on. You don't think it's weird he flew halfway around the world to spend one day with her, having two corny as hell "dates" that were both in public places where they were photographed, and one of them they were joined by like 10 other people, because it's true love?

It's a photo op relationship. If it were the real deal, they would make less effort to be seen together and more effort to be alone together. Taylor has done this before with Tom Hiddleston. It's not real.

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Anonymous wrote:He already left Sydney (on a private jet) and is headed to Vegas for more post-SB celebrations with the Chiefs.

So the Taylor/Travis relationship is responsible for four private jet trips across the Pacific in 2 weeks (just to see each other, not for work).

Taylor this man is not interested in you.

I'm sorry that's really dumb. What a waste of resources on something that's probably going to fall apart within a year.

Travis was in Sydney for less than 48 hours. He arrived there Thursday morning and they went to the zoo in the afternoon. I thought their zoo date was cute but Travis brought his BFF Ross Travis too? So odd that Taylor and Travis didn't spend time together alone as much as possible especially his stay was going to be so short.

Right? He spent more time in transit than actually with her, especially since she was performing. What was the point?

Couldn’t go two weeks without her…

So he flew to Sydney to spend several hours at the zoo with her... and her opening act, several of her backup dancers, his buddy, and her security team? And then spent the next 10 hours on his own while she prepped and performed. And then maybe git a few hours of alone time at the hotel.

Doesn't track. Says fake relationship for the clicks to me.

Don't forget the private boat date they took after her concert. Yeah, totally PR.

When do these people sleep?

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Anonymous wrote:This gets said on every Taylor thread about the plane but come on. None of us want Taylor flying commercial. Any airport she goes near would be filled with fans - even the more obsessed ones buying tickets to wait with her at the gate. Can you imagine paparazzi interest in her bag items at the security line?

Any of us would be livid with the traffic and congestion and so on.

This came up because she sent a PJ for Kelce to take from Hawaii to Sydney. He could easily fly commercial, first class.

I don't actually care if Taylor uses a private jet for security reasons, and her actual job does require some flexibility in travel at times (enables her to play shows all around the world on a relatively tight schedule) so okay. But that doesn't mean I think there should be no accountability there. Private jet use does affect all of us because of the fossil fuels involved, and I think using one to pick up your boyfriend is pretty gross. Sorry.

Are all these people piling onto the billionaire men and their jets and space rockets and everything? Bezos, Gates, Musk and his 20 kids and exes, British Royal Family, all the insanely rich people I don't know by name...

Yes, if you ever read any media that wasn't related to Taylor Swift you would realize that many people criticize billionaires for their private jet usage. To the point that Musk sued the same guy Taylor is now threatening to sue over him publishing info about his private jet's flights. Honestly, Taylor has only just recently gotten pulled into the issue because she recently bought a really large and fancy private jet and she also recently reached billionaire status. Before her, it was mostly rich white guys being criticized, though I've also seen criticism of other celebrities like Tom Cruise and Oprah.

Often the criticism focuses on on the fact that these people have private jets, as many of us understand that as very public people, there are security risks associated with them flying commercial. But if you are wealthy enough to have a private jet, you are also often wealthy enough to do things like fly your jet to St. Louis for good barbecue, or fly it to London to pick up a painting you purchased at auction, without you being on it. Or fly it to Hawaii to give your NFL boyfriend a lift. And those kinds of activities have started attracting increasingly negative attention in recent years because of the implications for the climate. Most people's fossil fuel usage does not, on its own, impact climate change in any real sense, whether for good or bad. But people this wealthy can use such an enormous amount of fossil fuels via private jets that it's the rare situation where individual action could actually be more than a drop in the bucket. Thus the criticism and the pressure for these people to consider the environmental impacts of how they use their jets.

This is not a Taylor thing. At all. It's a rich people with private jet thing. And any one of them could avoid it by using chartered jets, if they wanted both more privacy and less criticism. But using chartered jets would be less convenient or glamorous, and also have less financial upside. It would also make it a lot harder for them to use their jets in truly frivolous ways.

So maybe we can retire the conversation in a gossip thread about Taylor Swift and her boyfriend. Who, despite everyone's claims are fake, keep ticking off the months one by one and they're still together.

What does longevity have to do with if something is fake? There are gay men in fake bearding relationships for years. There’s no time limit.

Throughout this thread there have been numerous "I predict they're done at xyz time." And they're wrong. Every time. Is the point.

I can't fathom putting so much energy into believing a relationship is fake. I mean, hell, it may be and my life won't change at all. Isn't it more fun to believe that people found love rather than finding every reason under the sun for a relationship to be fake?

The vast majority of those comments predicted it it would last at least through the Superbowl. It did. Very few people thought they would have broken up by the end of February.

I don't it's a fake relationship but I think they are shallow people who enjoy the attention and that it's more likely to fail than not. I find the belief that it's "true love" mildly comical given their respective dating history. I think they are both the type to enjoy intense initial love bombing type relationships and then flee as soon as reality sets in.

I also think had or not been for Covid and the fact that Taylor had kind of fled to London to escape criticism over the whole Kim/Kanye/snake thing (which I think she overreacted to), she would have lasted 2 years, tops, with Joe. I also think they were apart and she was seeing Matty Healy for a lot longer than people think.

Yes! I also think she was dating Healy for much longer than stated. They were telling each other they loved each other from the stage only last spring. If they’d only been dating a month—as they claimed—that’s weird they’d be professing love during their concerts at that point. So I think they were dating much longer.

I suspect she cheated on Joe because she was “working” with Matty on music, and Joe thought the two of them were only working together.

Taylor Swift and Matt Healy never dated. You people are unreal.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/a34931/matt-healy-on-taylor-swift-q-magazine/