Walls Versus DCI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI has a stronger math track. If your kid is an elite math student, dci is a better fit. You can take AP pre-Calc as a freshman, AP calc as a sophomore, and then go into HL IB math as a junior and senior.

The language element of dci is head and shoulders better than walls.

If your kid is good at stem stuff and speaks a bunch of languages, DCI is a better choice. That said most people won’t fit into that bucket.

Also admissions at walls get weaker each year. I would rather my kid be around motivated kids in the IB track than kids who managed good grades at some mediocre dcps. I find the lack of standardized testing really worrisome for Wall’s future.

Either way you can’t go wrong.

Languages are stronger at DCI.
Walls offers similar math options as above.
A lot depends on what your kid plans to do for a career and actual level of math they'll need.

Does Walls allow students to take AP PreCalc in 9th grade now? Last I checked you were forced into Honors PreCalc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.

How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.

How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?

Yes, math tracking starts in 6th as soon as the kids enter the school.

The school has the test scores from the feeders and based on that, grades, and teachers recommendations, the kids are placed accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.

How do most students get into 9th grade AP PreCalc at DCI? Is there specific tracking set up in middle school for this? If so, how do you get selected for the track?

Yes, math tracking starts in 6th as soon as the kids enter the school.

The school has the test scores from the feeders and based on that, grades, and teachers recommendations, the kids are placed accordingly.

Also it is fluid. Kids can move up and down based on the set criteria another poster mentioned above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.

Out of curiosity: Is there any particular advantage for being on this fast track, other than for students who aim to major in engineering or math or physics?
And does being on a math fast track help with improving SAT or even the prospect for PSAT/ NMS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI offers AP precalc for advanced math students in the 10th grade and very advanced math students in the 9th grade. Of that group, 98% received an AP score of 3 or higher. My anecdotal understanding is that most received higher, much higher. This is mostly due to good identification of strong math students and good teaching. These kids will go on to IB math in their 11th and 12th grade years.

Out of curiosity: Is there any particular advantage for being on this fast track, other than for students who aim to major in engineering or math or physics?
And does being on a math fast track help with improving SAT or even the prospect for PSAT/ NMS?

It can be hard to get to Calc BC if you don’t take pre calc in 10th at a standard public school (where there might not be space). It’s also easier to do well on the IB tests if you have it out of the way.

There’s a high correlation between AP calc test scores and SAT/PSAT scores but the tests have nothing to do with one another. SAT math is a prerequisite for the math you will do in calculus but that’s about it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are grades inflated at DCI? I heard half the middle school gets straight As (Principal's List)[/quote]

That is objectively false. Principals list is really hard and requires straight As. Honor roll is much harder. I can’t post because it would violate people’s privacy but this is just false.

If anything teachers have expectations that are too high. My kids struggle with PE. [/quote]

I think it's the opposite. Principal's list is for the highest scorers. Honor roll is a GPA level below that. My kids have not experienced universal grade inflation. Like many schools, there are some teachers who are known as easier graders than others and a few stickler teachers who make it very very hard to earn a 7. (6 and 7 are both like As, I believe but don't quote me on that).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

Does anyone seriously doubt that Walls (and BASIS) are the two best public high schools in the city?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI has a stronger math track. If your kid is an elite math student, dci is a better fit. You can take AP pre-Calc as a freshman, AP calc as a sophomore, and then go into HL IB math as a junior and senior.

The language element of dci is head and shoulders better than walls.

If your kid is good at stem stuff and speaks a bunch of languages, DCI is a better choice. That said most people won’t fit into that bucket.

Also admissions at walls get weaker each year. I would rather my kid be around motivated kids in the IB track than kids who managed good grades at some mediocre dcps. I find the lack of standardized testing really worrisome for Wall’s future.

Either way you can’t go wrong.

Languages are stronger at DCI.
Walls offers similar math options as above.
A lot depends on what your kid plans to do for a career and actual level of math they'll need.

Does Walls allow students to take AP PreCalc in 9th grade now? Last I checked you were forced into Honors PreCalc.

Forced is a bit of a dramatic word. Thr school only started offering AP PreCalc this year. And yes 9th graders can take it.

By the way AP Precalc is a money grab from College Board. Precalc is not a college course in any serious sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

You cannot get pass rates at a specific DCPS school. A Walls admin or Walls teacher would have to share that info. I’m honestly surprised DCI shares it for specific courses because it can become very identifiable in some cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

You cannot get pass rates at a specific DCPS school. A Walls admin or Walls teacher would have to share that info. I’m honestly surprised DCI shares it for specific courses because it can become very identifiable in some cases.

This tells you 3 or higher at the school level. Probably too identifiable to do cross tabs.
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DCI boosters are working overtime, as usual....

What boosting? The discussion is based on facts and data of AP pass rate.

Feel free to share the AP pre calculus and calculus pass rate at Walls. Oh wait, someone said DCPS doesn’t share this…..

DCI thinking it is in the same league as Walls is like the Commanders thinking they are going to beat down the Packers.

No one said anything about that. But it is obvious that DCI can serve the top math students and serve them well.

You can’t say that about Walls if you can’t provide the data.

BTW a parent from Walls posted above that their AP math scores are good but then did not post any data when posters on here asked.

You cannot get pass rates at a specific DCPS school. A Walls admin or Walls teacher would have to share that info. I’m honestly surprised DCI shares it for specific courses because it can become very identifiable in some cases.

This tells you 3 or higher at the school level. Probably too identifiable to do cross tabs.
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/ap-score-data-sets

But even that doesn’t quite describe what people are asking about. That is a table of kids who got at least one 3,4 or 5 on an AP. Walls has kids taking four or five APs by junior and senior year. All we know is that 91% of kids get a minimum of 3 on one test.

None of that is helpful or useful data to determine math or science AP scores.