Why are people so upset about Common Core?

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Anonymous wrote:So here is a worksheet from the Common Core workbook for first graders. I showed this to my husband, who can code in fractal mathematics, so he's no slouch. It took him about 10 minutes to figure out what the worksheet was asking and why. I asked my 12 year old son to look at it. He could not figure out what was being asked of him.

https://twitter.com/NYCdeb8tr/status/450416183372955648/photo/1

Dummy have you not been reading about the fact that New York has added stuff that is not common core?
Since when do we read stuff on Twitter and take that as gospel???


Now tell me how you get the answer and whether or not this is appropriate for a six year old, which is the real question at hand.


That was crazy- what the hell?! Obama should be forced to complete all of these worksheets/tests before it gets passed on to the general population! See how smart he really is. Or maybe he'll actually get how stupid this Common Core is.


The Feds are always involved. No child left behind was such a wonderful idea, right?
But the individual states are not being forced to commit to theses standards. And curriculum and it's implementation is very much local.

Ok, all other things notwithstanding, what the FUCK does Barack Obama have to do with this? Are you insane?


Are you naive? The Feds are involved.


You're right, the Feds ARE always behind. And no, No Child Left Behind was NOT a wonderful idea. The individual states and being forced through the dangling of Federal money that belonged to the states in the first place. It's like your boss taking a third of your paycheck away and then saying "you can have it back if you simply follow my recommendations in your personal life'. If the Feds didn't take so much from the states to begin with, the states would have more leverage. And no, the curriculum and implementation is not very much local - look at how PAARC and the SBAC is funded - 346 million in Federal grants. Follow the money and your answers are there. Bits and bytes my friend, bits and bytes.

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/get-schooled/2013/aug/25/common-core-brand-name-who-making-money-new-standa/

You skipping doses again, sweetie?
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Well, last I checked he was the commander in chief. And the Feds are hooking common core adoption to funding so I guess he's kind of involved.


He's commander-in-chief of the US military. Not of the schools in the US.
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Anonymous wrote:What you are missing, is that what's right for YOUR child, might not be right for other children. A teacher and district (local level) can do that faster and more efficiently than state and fed.


In this city, historically, many educators have decided that reading is not something that is right for poor black and brown kids. That it was over their heads, or not something they needed. Yes, instruction and standards need to be tweaked for some individual students, but there is a body of knowledge that is standards and should be a goal for every child.


And in Texas, historically, the state has decided that science is not something that is right for the children of Texas. And since Texas is a large market, the textbook publishers all adjusted their textbooks accordingly, so that children in other states didn't get to learn science either.
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Anonymous wrote:So here is a worksheet from the Common Core workbook for first graders. I showed this to my husband, who can code in fractal mathematics, so he's no slouch. It took him about 10 minutes to figure out what the worksheet was asking and why. I asked my 12 year old son to look at it. He could not figure out what was being asked of him.

https://twitter.com/NYCdeb8tr/status/450416183372955648/photo/1

Dummy have you not been reading about the fact that New York has added stuff that is not common core?
Since when do we read stuff on Twitter and take that as gospel???


Now tell me how you get the answer and whether or not this is appropriate for a six year old, which is the real question at hand.


That was crazy- what the hell?! Obama should be forced to complete all of these worksheets/tests before it gets passed on to the general population! See how smart he really is. Or maybe he'll actually get how stupid this Common Core is.



Ok, all other things notwithstanding, what the FUCK does Barack Obama have to do with this? Are you insane?


Are you naive? The Feds are involved.


The feds are not who developed the standard, they came along after the fact - basically their only position and role is "IF a state is going to adopt a standard, here's a little bit of money to help with that."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Well, last I checked he was the commander in chief. And the Feds are hooking common core adoption to funding so I guess he's kind of involved.


He's commander-in-chief of the US military. Not of the schools in the US.


So why does he put so much emphasis on his pen and his phone if all he controls is the military?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you are missing, is that what's right for YOUR child, might not be right for other children. A teacher and district (local level) can do that faster and more efficiently than state and fed.


In this city, historically, many educators have decided that reading is not something that is right for poor black and brown kids. That it was over their heads, or not something they needed. Yes, instruction and standards need to be tweaked for some individual students, but there is a body of knowledge that is standards and should be a goal for every child.


And in Texas, historically, the state has decided that science is not something that is right for the children of Texas. And since Texas is a large market, the textbook publishers all adjusted their textbooks accordingly, so that children in other states didn't get to learn science either.


So what you are saying here is Texas is completely eliminating all science from their curriculum?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So here is a worksheet from the Common Core workbook for first graders. I showed this to my husband, who can code in fractal mathematics, so he's no slouch. It took him about 10 minutes to figure out what the worksheet was asking and why. I asked my 12 year old son to look at it. He could not figure out what was being asked of him.

https://twitter.com/NYCdeb8tr/status/450416183372955648/photo/1

Dummy have you not been reading about the fact that New York has added stuff that is not common core?
Since when do we read stuff on Twitter and take that as gospel???


Now tell me how you get the answer and whether or not this is appropriate for a six year old, which is the real question at hand.


That was crazy- what the hell?! Obama should be forced to complete all of these worksheets/tests before it gets passed on to the general population! See how smart he really is. Or maybe he'll actually get how stupid this Common Core is.



Ok, all other things notwithstanding, what the FUCK does Barack Obama have to do with this? Are you insane?


Are you naive? The Feds are involved.


The feds are not who developed the standard, they came along after the fact - basically their only position and role is "IF a state is going to adopt a standard, here's a little bit of money to help with that."


[facepalm]
Anonymous
With that facepalm I suggest you apply a little more force in the hopes it slaps a little sense into you.

Common Core is a STATE initiative.

Repeat after me: STATE

S-T-A-T-E

Get it right. Nobody who actually knows the facts is interested in your bullshit narrative about "federal government".

Got it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you are missing, is that what's right for YOUR child, might not be right for other children. A teacher and district (local level) can do that faster and more efficiently than state and fed.


In this city, historically, many educators have decided that reading is not something that is right for poor black and brown kids. That it was over their heads, or not something they needed. Yes, instruction and standards need to be tweaked for some individual students, but there is a body of knowledge that is standards and should be a goal for every child.


And in Texas, historically, the state has decided that science is not something that is right for the children of Texas. And since Texas is a large market, the textbook publishers all adjusted their textbooks accordingly, so that children in other states didn't get to learn science either.


So what you are saying here is Texas is completely eliminating all science from their curriculum?


No, Texas is not eliminating all science. Texas has tried to eliminate all science it disagrees with. Historically that has meant evolution. It now includes climate change, too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/education/texas-education-board-flags-biology-textbook-over-evolution-concerns.html?_r=0
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Well, last I checked he was the commander in chief. And the Feds are hooking common core adoption to funding so I guess he's kind of involved.


He's commander-in-chief of the US military. Not of the schools in the US.


So why does he put so much emphasis on his pen and his phone if all he controls is the military?


Barack Obama is president of the United States. As president of the United States, he is commander-in-chief of the US military. If you are in the military, he is both your president and your commander. If you are not in the military, he is your president.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:With that facepalm I suggest you apply a little more force in the hopes it slaps a little sense into you.

Common Core is a STATE initiative.

Repeat after me: STATE

S-T-A-T-E

Get it right. Nobody who actually knows the facts is interested in your bullshit narrative about "federal government".

Got it?


Use your palm to slap your face.

Common Core standards are for each state, yes. And yes, the states can opt out - just as some did with NCLB. However, they'll lose federal funding.

However, they were collaboratively created under the guidance of representatives from 48 states - http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/

The state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards was launched in 2009 by state leaders, including governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, two territories and the District of Columbia, through their membership in the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices (NGA Center) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO). State school chiefs and governors recognized the value of consistent, real-world learning goals and launched this effort to ensure all students, regardless of where they live, are graduating high school prepared for college, career, and life.


You can argue your point all you want, but when 48 states - and DC - are involved in this framework, it's national, sweetie.

Furthermore, our own Bill Gates was the push behind them - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/11/24/following-the-common-core-money-where-are-millions-of-dollars-going/

I am not against the CC. I have used the standards to create frameworks for smaller systems. However, they are quite rigorous and require that teachers understand that discourse is the heart of the standards. Furthermore, teachers should be scaffolding in their sleep.

To understand the answer, one needs to go back to 2007. That is the year that Common Core Inc. was founded, three years before the standards were made public. In 2009, it received over a half million dollars in the form of a grant from the Gates Foundation to write curriculum for standards that had not yet been released nor adopted by states.
Last week, Catholic Education Daily reported on the connection between Common Core Inc. and the Gates Foundation in a story entitled “Common Core is Curriculum, Contrary to Advocates’ Claims.”

The story reports that despite Bill Gates’ claim that there was no need to build national Common Core curriculum, he has, through his grant program, quietly funded its development in excess of $10 million, with Common Core Inc. being the first to receive a grant. According to authors Gigante and Archbold, “Despite the overlap between corporate branding, mission, funding and leadership, Common Core Inc. claims that it is ‘not affiliated with the Common Core Standards’.” The article suggests that although some advocates of the Common Core claim that they want to only nationalize standards, their true intent is to nationalize a still experimental curriculum. Despite repeated attempts, Common Core Inc. has not responded to their inquiries.

The Gates Foundation appears to have a partner in New York State when it comes to curriculum development. The New York State Regents Research fund has received millions of dollars from the Gates Foundation to further its reform agenda. But more importantly, the State Education Department has helped finance the effort to create curriculum by using more than $28 million in Race to the Top federal taxpayer dollars. And it appears that one of the recipients, Common Core Inc., intends to influence curriculum beyond New York State. A search of the Common Core Inc. site shows that the organization will sell textbook editions of the work that they did for New York, thus leveraging New York’s tax dollars to launch a textbook series.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:With that facepalm I suggest you apply a little more force in the hopes it slaps a little sense into you.

Common Core is a STATE initiative.

Repeat after me: STATE

S-T-A-T-E

Get it right. Nobody who actually knows the facts is interested in your bullshit narrative about "federal government".

Got it?


Please do more research.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With that facepalm I suggest you apply a little more force in the hopes it slaps a little sense into you.

Common Core is a STATE initiative.

Repeat after me: STATE

S-T-A-T-E

Get it right. Nobody who actually knows the facts is interested in your bullshit narrative about "federal government".

Got it?


Use your palm to slap your face.

Common Core standards are for each state, yes. And yes, the states can opt out - just as some did with NCLB. However, they'll lose federal funding.

However, they were collaboratively created under the guidance of representatives from 48 states - http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/

The state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards was launched in 2009 by state leaders, including governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, two territories and the District of Columbia, through their membership in the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices (NGA Center) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO). State school chiefs and governors recognized the value of consistent, real-world learning goals and launched this effort to ensure all students, regardless of where they live, are graduating high school prepared for college, career, and life.


You can argue your point all you want, but when 48 states - and DC - are involved in this framework, it's national, sweetie.

Furthermore, our own Bill Gates was the push behind them - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/11/24/following-the-common-core-money-where-are-millions-of-dollars-going/

I am not against the CC. I have used the standards to create frameworks for smaller systems. However, they are quite rigorous and require that teachers understand that discourse is the heart of the standards. Furthermore, teachers should be scaffolding in their sleep.

To understand the answer, one needs to go back to 2007. That is the year that Common Core Inc. was founded, three years before the standards were made public. In 2009, it received over a half million dollars in the form of a grant from the Gates Foundation to write curriculum for standards that had not yet been released nor adopted by states.
Last week, Catholic Education Daily reported on the connection between Common Core Inc. and the Gates Foundation in a story entitled “Common Core is Curriculum, Contrary to Advocates’ Claims.”

The story reports that despite Bill Gates’ claim that there was no need to build national Common Core curriculum, he has, through his grant program, quietly funded its development in excess of $10 million, with Common Core Inc. being the first to receive a grant. According to authors Gigante and Archbold, “Despite the overlap between corporate branding, mission, funding and leadership, Common Core Inc. claims that it is ‘not affiliated with the Common Core Standards’.” The article suggests that although some advocates of the Common Core claim that they want to only nationalize standards, their true intent is to nationalize a still experimental curriculum. Despite repeated attempts, Common Core Inc. has not responded to their inquiries.

The Gates Foundation appears to have a partner in New York State when it comes to curriculum development. The New York State Regents Research fund has received millions of dollars from the Gates Foundation to further its reform agenda. But more importantly, the State Education Department has helped finance the effort to create curriculum by using more than $28 million in Race to the Top federal taxpayer dollars. And it appears that one of the recipients, Common Core Inc., intends to influence curriculum beyond New York State. A search of the Common Core Inc. site shows that the organization will sell textbook editions of the work that they did for New York, thus leveraging New York’s tax dollars to launch a textbook series.


Thank you for making this post. All I could do was face palm.

Now listen to the smart pp, all!
Anonymous
Poster above is moving the goalposts.

And equivocating. National does not equal federal. But nice try there.

Further, states don't lose federal any existing federal funding for not adopting the standards. They just don't get extra.
Anonymous
All the anti common core posters: I would love to know of you can explain the WHY CC was initiated and what we can do to address the really serious problem it was intended to solve?

Thanks.
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