University of Alabama - “ peak neo-antebellum white Southern culture” - NYT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

[Anonymous]

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Cottom strikes me as genuinely confused and conflicted. So much of the essay bashes the sororities for being too white, only for it to end with statements like "why would anyone want to integrate that?" and "Sometimes the proper place for something is the past, and the thing just does not know it yet." It's as if she's saying Black students shouldn't want to be in those sororities... which would be all the explanation needed for why they have low percentages of Black members, right?

Also interesting that Cottom doesn't mention that Black students are more likely than white students to receive an actual bid after completing the recruitment processs, reinforcing their low numbers in the sororities are by choice.

https://thecrimsonwhite.com/82701/news/a-racial-breakdown-of-alabama-sorority-recruitment/#:~:text=White%20students%20accounted%20for%20about,multiple%20races%20in%20fall%202020.

Finally, it's clear Cottom is concerned with "power" at Alabama. She uses the term 10 times, speaking in vague ways about how "the power" of these predominantly white sororities is "the brotherhood that desires it." Seems pretty insulting to the women of Alabama! She further insults the rest of their Greek system referring to how a not so secret society comprised of its leadership is like organized crime "with training wheels" because they have "influenced" campus elections in the past (is that so surprising let alone illegal?). It's pretty clear she sees the power being disproportionately concentrated among white males at the university. Now, it might've been interesting for her to show her research skills (?) to actually back up that position, but she doesn't. She's a columnist for the most famous newspaper in the country and a professor at a public flagship (so, she's employed by the people), but she can't be bothered with taking the time to vet her own serious allegations. If she had been serious about exploring the recent history of power at the campus, she might've looked at the recent student body presidents. Of the last 10, 4 are white women, 3 are Black men, and 3 are white men. I get that there are other data points, but come on! This is totally inconsistent with her premise that white males run the show at Alabama. It took me 5 min to figure that out, and I'm not a sociology professor making wild claims in a major newspaper.

It went over your head, but she is saying the young women have done nothing but subjugate themselves. Given that she argues, the solution is not to add yet more women to the sororities, or waste any time trying to fix a backward institution.

DP. Cute that you insulted pp, but no.

Cottom's title referring to a "White Tide," in combination with her mockery of shiny blond hair and her extensive-yet-stats-free discussion of integration, makes it clear she's making a point about white women.

-- another woman on the left

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Let's try to make it really clear:

I'm not the pp who wants to shut the thread down.

I am the pp who says both groups--the Fox News echo chamber and the folks who won't tolerate any criticism of Cottom--are trying to shut down discussion, and often they do this with dishonest arguments and ad hominems. Well, I'd give an edge to Fox for all-round badness, but the folks here defending Cottom's misogyny aren't great either, as evidenced by all the insults and fact-free arguments on this thread.

Thanks to another pp for the stat on how Blacks are actually more likely to get bids.

[Anonymous]

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Cottom strikes me as genuinely confused and conflicted. So much of the essay bashes the sororities for being too white, only for it to end with statements like "why would anyone want to integrate that?" and "Sometimes the proper place for something is the past, and the thing just does not know it yet." It's as if she's saying Black students shouldn't want to be in those sororities... which would be all the explanation needed for why they have low percentages of Black members, right?

Also interesting that Cottom doesn't mention that Black students are more likely than white students to receive an actual bid after completing the recruitment processs, reinforcing their low numbers in the sororities are by choice.

https://thecrimsonwhite.com/82701/news/a-racial-breakdown-of-alabama-sorority-recruitment/#:~:text=White%20students%20accounted%20for%20about,multiple%20races%20in%20fall%202020.

Finally, it's clear Cottom is concerned with "power" at Alabama. She uses the term 10 times, speaking in vague ways about how "the power" of these predominantly white sororities is "the brotherhood that desires it." Seems pretty insulting to the women of Alabama! She further insults the rest of their Greek system referring to how a not so secret society comprised of its leadership is like organized crime "with training wheels" because they have "influenced" campus elections in the past (is that so surprising let alone illegal?). It's pretty clear she sees the power being disproportionately concentrated among white males at the university. Now, it might've been interesting for her to show her research skills (?) to actually back up that position, but she doesn't. She's a columnist for the most famous newspaper in the country and a professor at a public flagship (so, she's employed by the people), but she can't be bothered with taking the time to vet her own serious allegations. If she had been serious about exploring the recent history of power at the campus, she might've looked at the recent student body presidents. Of the last 10, 4 are white women, 3 are Black men, and 3 are white men. I get that there are other data points, but come on! This is totally inconsistent with her premise that white males run the show at Alabama. It took me 5 min to figure that out, and I'm not a sociology professor making wild claims in a major newspaper.

It went over your head, but she is saying the young women have done nothing but subjugate themselves. Given that she argues, the solution is not to add yet more women to the sororities, or waste any time trying to fix a backward institution.

So you took the time to read up on the four female presidents? You know they were in sororities? If your definition of "subjugation" is putting on make-up or dressing up or staying fit, you and Cottom must share a lot.

40%, wow. I'm not sure how many student body presidents from good schools go on to anything, but okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Okay, so you just misused the quote about stones. Maybe work on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Let's try to make it really clear:

I'm not the pp who wants to shut the thread down.

I am the pp who says both groups--the Fox News echo chamber and the folks who won't tolerate any criticism of Cottom--are trying to shut down discussion, and often they do this with dishonest arguments and ad hominems. Well, I'd give an edge to Fox for all-round badness, but the folks here defending Cottom's misogyny aren't great either, as evidenced by all the insults and fact-free arguments on this thread.

Thanks to another pp for the stat on how Blacks are actually more likely to get bids.

This was not at all clear from what you originally wrote, but I agree with you. It’s intellectual laziness across the board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Okay, so you just misused the quote about stones. Maybe work on that.

What? You're bullying the left over trying to shut down any criticism of Cottom (admittedly some of the left here are trying to shut down criticism, but I'm left and I've been criticizing her article for pages now). When the right is just as bad or worse.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" absolutely applies to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Okay, so you just misused the quote about stones. Maybe work on that.

What? You're bullying the left over trying to shut down any criticism of Cottom (admittedly some of the left here are trying to shut down criticism, but I'm left and I've been criticizing her article for pages now). When the right is just as bad or worse.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" absolutely applies to you.

Sigh. I give up.

Also, please do not misuse the term bullying so egregiously. It’s embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Okay, so you just misused the quote about stones. Maybe work on that.

What? You're bullying the left over trying to shut down any criticism of Cottom (admittedly some of the left here are trying to shut down criticism, but I'm left and I've been criticizing her article for pages now). When the right is just as bad or worse.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" absolutely applies to you.

Sigh. I give up.

Also, please do not misuse the term bullying so egregiously. It’s embarrassing.

You’re a RWNJ bully go doesn’t want to admit to the folks on your own side who can’t handle criticism. Own it.

[Anonymous]

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Cottom strikes me as genuinely confused and conflicted. So much of the essay bashes the sororities for being too white, only for it to end with statements like "why would anyone want to integrate that?" and "Sometimes the proper place for something is the past, and the thing just does not know it yet." It's as if she's saying Black students shouldn't want to be in those sororities... which would be all the explanation needed for why they have low percentages of Black members, right?

Also interesting that Cottom doesn't mention that Black students are more likely than white students to receive an actual bid after completing the recruitment processs, reinforcing their low numbers in the sororities are by choice.

https://thecrimsonwhite.com/82701/news/a-racial-breakdown-of-alabama-sorority-recruitment/#:~:text=White%20students%20accounted%20for%20about,multiple%20races%20in%20fall%202020.

Finally, it's clear Cottom is concerned with "power" at Alabama. She uses the term 10 times, speaking in vague ways about how "the power" of these predominantly white sororities is "the brotherhood that desires it." Seems pretty insulting to the women of Alabama! She further insults the rest of their Greek system referring to how a not so secret society comprised of its leadership is like organized crime "with training wheels" because they have "influenced" campus elections in the past (is that so surprising let alone illegal?). It's pretty clear she sees the power being disproportionately concentrated among white males at the university. Now, it might've been interesting for her to show her research skills (?) to actually back up that position, but she doesn't. She's a columnist for the most famous newspaper in the country and a professor at a public flagship (so, she's employed by the people), but she can't be bothered with taking the time to vet her own serious allegations. If she had been serious about exploring the recent history of power at the campus, she might've looked at the recent student body presidents. Of the last 10, 4 are white women, 3 are Black men, and 3 are white men. I get that there are other data points, but come on! This is totally inconsistent with her premise that white males run the show at Alabama. It took me 5 min to figure that out, and I'm not a sociology professor making wild claims in a major newspaper.

Let’s not let this factoid go unremarked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Cottom strikes me as genuinely confused and conflicted. So much of the essay bashes the sororities for being too white, only for it to end with statements like "why would anyone want to integrate that?" and "Sometimes the proper place for something is the past, and the thing just does not know it yet." It's as if she's saying Black students shouldn't want to be in those sororities... which would be all the explanation needed for why they have low percentages of Black members, right?

Also interesting that Cottom doesn't mention that Black students are more likely than white students to receive an actual bid after completing the recruitment processs, reinforcing their low numbers in the sororities are by choice.

https://thecrimsonwhite.com/82701/news/a-racial-breakdown-of-alabama-sorority-recruitment/#:~:text=White%20students%20accounted%20for%20about,multiple%20races%20in%20fall%202020.

Finally, it's clear Cottom is concerned with "power" at Alabama. She uses the term 10 times, speaking in vague ways about how "the power" of these predominantly white sororities is "the brotherhood that desires it." Seems pretty insulting to the women of Alabama! She further insults the rest of their Greek system referring to how a not so secret society comprised of its leadership is like organized crime "with training wheels" because they have "influenced" campus elections in the past (is that so surprising let alone illegal?). It's pretty clear she sees the power being disproportionately concentrated among white males at the university. Now, it might've been interesting for her to show her research skills (?) to actually back up that position, but she doesn't. She's a columnist for the most famous newspaper in the country and a professor at a public flagship (so, she's employed by the people), but she can't be bothered with taking the time to vet her own serious allegations. If she had been serious about exploring the recent history of power at the campus, she might've looked at the recent student body presidents. Of the last 10, 4 are white women, 3 are Black men, and 3 are white men. I get that there are other data points, but come on! This is totally inconsistent with her premise that white males run the show at Alabama. It took me 5 min to figure that out, and I'm not a sociology professor making wild claims in a major newspaper.

It went over your head, but she is saying the young women have done nothing but subjugate themselves. Given that she argues, the solution is not to add yet more women to the sororities, or waste any time trying to fix a backward institution.

So you took the time to read up on the four female presidents? You know they were in sororities? If your definition of "subjugation" is putting on make-up or dressing up or staying fit, you and Cottom must share a lot.

40%, wow. I'm not sure how many student body presidents from good schools go on to anything, but okay.

Are you implying that 30% of the presidents being white males, 30% being Black male, and 40% being white female supports the theory white males are "subjugating" the rest of the school? It was Cottom herself who claimed a connection between "campus elections" and "grooming university student leaders for leadership in politics and industry." She came up with a narrative but didn't test the underlying assumptions with even a few minutes of research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, time to lock this thread up perhaps?

Tangently related to the essence Colleges and Universities, and has delved into other issues.

Perfectly inline with the observation that leftist academics and thinkers cannot tolerate any critical discussion of even the most mediocre writing.

Oh this is absolutely true of the folks in the Fox News comments sections, too.

Let he who is without sin....

Sure. So if your standard is “I want to act like the people in the comment section of Fox News,” I guess you’re meeting that standard. Well done to you, I suppose.

Hello, I just said that both groups are bad--the Fox News echo chamber and the left echo chamber that says we have to accept bad research. What's wrong with you?

Do you want the thread shut down or not? If not, you are then using the “let he who is without sin” quote incorrectly. People are responding to that, because it sounds like you are taking the position that because Fox News comment section writers can’t handle any criticism, it’s okay for people here to ask for this thread to be shut down since there are posts in this thread that are critical of a left-leaning writer.

I wasn't the pp who asked to shut the thread down. I don't think it should be shut down. There are multiple posters here. Get a grip.

Okay, so you just misused the quote about stones. Maybe work on that.

What? You're bullying the left over trying to shut down any criticism of Cottom (admittedly some of the left here are trying to shut down criticism, but I'm left and I've been criticizing her article for pages now). When the right is just as bad or worse.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" absolutely applies to you.

Sigh. I give up.

Also, please do not misuse the term bullying so egregiously. It’s embarrassing.

You’re a RWNJ bully go doesn’t want to admit to the folks on your own side who can’t handle criticism. Own it.

🤣🤣🤣

I love the idea that you seem to believe that “the left” as a whole can apparently be “bullied” by a single DCUM poster. Lol. That’s beautiful.

Please let the grown-ups converse and go sulk elsewhere because someone didn’t cheer on your every single thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Cottom strikes me as genuinely confused and conflicted. So much of the essay bashes the sororities for being too white, only for it to end with statements like "why would anyone want to integrate that?" and "Sometimes the proper place for something is the past, and the thing just does not know it yet." It's as if she's saying Black students shouldn't want to be in those sororities... which would be all the explanation needed for why they have low percentages of Black members, right?

Also interesting that Cottom doesn't mention that Black students are more likely than white students to receive an actual bid after completing the recruitment processs, reinforcing their low numbers in the sororities are by choice.

https://thecrimsonwhite.com/82701/news/a-racial-breakdown-of-alabama-sorority-recruitment/#:~:text=White%20students%20accounted%20for%20about,multiple%20races%20in%20fall%202020.

Finally, it's clear Cottom is concerned with "power" at Alabama. She uses the term 10 times, speaking in vague ways about how "the power" of these predominantly white sororities is "the brotherhood that desires it." Seems pretty insulting to the women of Alabama! She further insults the rest of their Greek system referring to how a not so secret society comprised of its leadership is like organized crime "with training wheels" because they have "influenced" campus elections in the past (is that so surprising let alone illegal?). It's pretty clear she sees the power being disproportionately concentrated among white males at the university. Now, it might've been interesting for her to show her research skills (?) to actually back up that position, but she doesn't. She's a columnist for the most famous newspaper in the country and a professor at a public flagship (so, she's employed by the people), but she can't be bothered with taking the time to vet her own serious allegations. If she had been serious about exploring the recent history of power at the campus, she might've looked at the recent student body presidents. Of the last 10, 4 are white women, 3 are Black men, and 3 are white men. I get that there are other data points, but come on! This is totally inconsistent with her premise that white males run the show at Alabama. It took me 5 min to figure that out, and I'm not a sociology professor making wild claims in a major newspaper.

Let’s not let this factoid go unremarked.

That would require Dr. Cotton’s fans to engage in critical thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to pay to read it No thanks

Right, no one who researches and writes for the NYT should expect to get paid for their time or work, right?