San Francisco is imploding

[Anonymous]

San Francisco is lost. What a disaster and a disgrace.

San Fran­cis­co’s home­less epi­demic is a re­sult in large part of the fa­mil­iar prob­lems of drug ad­dic­tion and men­tal ill­ness. But a par­tic­u­lar prob­lem is the re­fusal to pros­e­cute drug crimes. In 2014 Cal­i­for­nia’s Prop. 47, which was backed by Gov. Gavin New­som and other pro­gressives, ef­fec­tively de­crim­i­nal­ized drug use and shoplift­ing. Lo­cal­i­ties can’t use the threat of jail to in­duce ad­dicts to re­ceive treat­ment.

Democrats in Sacramento plan to ask voters next year for approval to borrow $15 billion more to reduce homelessness. Only a progressive could imagine that will this work any better than the last tens of billions. How about instead repealing the misconceived law that is fueling the problem?    

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-san-francisco-is-a-homeless-mecca-drug-prosecutions-treatment-344aac97

[Anonymous]

more flash mob Lootings and Riots and Shootings

rise in car jackings and another crime surge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:more flash mob Lootings and Riots and Shootings

rise in car jackings and another crime surge

Why stop if there are no consequences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:more flash mob Lootings and Riots and Shootings

rise in car jackings and another crime surge

When was the last flash mob looting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

No, I'm not. I'm saying offer help (paid for by state) through programs, group homes, hospitals, etc. If they won't accept help and commit crimes, put them in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

You’re basically saying you want to make homelessness a crime. Not everyone feels that being poor is worthy of imprisonment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

You’re basically saying you want to make homelessness a crime. Not everyone feels that being poor is worthy of imprisonment.

If they are camping out on sidewalks, defecating in the streets, using drugs in public, and generally being a public nuisance, they are breaking laws. Yes, they are criminals. Time to treat them as such. Get them help, or lock them up.
It is truly not something that law-abiding tax-paying citizens should tolerate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

You’re basically saying you want to make homelessness a crime. Not everyone feels that being poor is worthy of imprisonment.

PP here. No. That's not what I said. I said to provide them with help, assistance, housing, medications whatever you want to call it. If they won't take what's offered, they should not be allowed to camp out on the streets, defecate and use drugs in public, and/or commit crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

You’re basically saying you want to make homelessness a crime. Not everyone feels that being poor is worthy of imprisonment.

A homeless facility is not a prison, you nitwit, and making sure the homeless go to one is not accusing them of any crime. What *you're* basically saying is that it's perfectly ok to defecate on the streets and sidewalks. If that's the kind of world you want to live in, go for it. Don't count on sane people supporting you though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move along, nothing to see here folks. SF is perfectly fine and healthy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/12l66oq/a_weeknight_stroll_through_market_street_at_200_am/


Progressive policies making SF look like Snake Plisken’s hood, or Robo Cop’s dystopian nightmare city.

Where do you think the unhoused go at night? It’s not like they disappear when we close our eyes. They have to be somewhere. Everyone knows the tenderloin is the worst part of town. He picked the part of town that everyone knows as the place where unhoused people sleep and where drug dealers and sex workers do their thing, and strolls through at 2am. Of course it’s bad. As more stores close it’s going to get worse, but the whole city isn’t like that all the time. I was about a block away from that video location 3 days ago buying art supplies for my kids. It’s not as nice as it used to be but it’s not like that during the daytime. SF has a lot of homeless people. That’s just how it is. Everyone knows not to go to the tenderloin after dark.

I thought California was such a well run state, plus San Francisco is known for its wealthy residents. Raise taxes and take care of this problem.

You can’t force people to get help if they don’t want help. You’re being intentionally obtuse.

DP. Sorry, but homeless or not, no one should be allowed to camp out on sidewalks, defecate in public, and block entrances to homes and buildings. No one. They need to be made to go to homeless facilities, period. Who cares if they "want" to live on the street? What about all the other residents who DON'T want to step human feces as they go about their day? JFC.

You’re basically saying you want to make homelessness a crime. Not everyone feels that being poor is worthy of imprisonment.

If they are camping out on sidewalks, defecating in the streets, using drugs in public, and generally being a public nuisance, they are breaking laws. Yes, they are criminals. Time to treat them as such. Get them help, or lock them up.
It is truly not something that law-abiding tax-paying citizens should tolerate.

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