D.C. needs to get a lot more car friendly

[Anonymous]

Its cheaper and faster to go by car to Kaiser Capitol Hill instead of using metro from my home. 20 minutes vs a 1 hour metro ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its cheaper and faster to go by car to Kaiser Capitol Hill instead of using metro from my home. 20 minutes vs a 1 hour metro ride.

Sounds like it’s already plenty car friendly then.

[Anonymous]

DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

If you are a Virginia or Maryland resident you can throw those tickets in the trash and nothing will happen. Adding hundreds more speed cameras will end up being a net negative for the city, as the costs to install and maintain will soon exceed the revenue they bring in because so many people simply don't pay the tickets.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

I do! I drive 20 MPH on streets that are labeled as having 20 MPH limits and 25 elsewhere in DC. If you have to slam the breaks on the avoid a speeding ticket then that is your fault for speeding, not the fault of the camera

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

I do! I drive 20 MPH on streets that are labeled as having 20 MPH limits and 25 elsewhere in DC. If you have to slam the breaks on the avoid a speeding ticket then that is your fault for speeding, not the fault of the camera

No, it's the fault of the politician that put them there for nothing but pr and revenue. It's the fault of the staffers trying so desperately to please. But I thought it was about safety not punishment? Speed cameras are a nuisance that in the large majority cases does not improve safety. Their main purpose is to harrass citizens and raise money. You seem to think that's a good thing. I do not.

I do not believe your tale of piety. Even my grandmother, the slowest driver i've ever known, hit 26 on Military without trying.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

I do! I drive 20 MPH on streets that are labeled as having 20 MPH limits and 25 elsewhere in DC. If you have to slam the breaks on the avoid a speeding ticket then that is your fault for speeding, not the fault of the camera

No, it's the fault of the politician that put them there for nothing but pr and revenue. It's the fault of the staffers trying so desperately to please. But I thought it was about safety not punishment? Speed cameras are a nuisance that in the large majority cases does not improve safety. Their main purpose is to harrass citizens and raise money. You seem to think that's a good thing. I do not.

I do not believe your tale of piety. Even my grandmother, the slowest driver i've ever known, hit 26 on Military without trying.

The locations of the cameras are pretty well known. People either slow down to avoid getting a ticket (which is good) or they get a ticket (in which case, more revenue for the city, which is fine, too). I like the stop sign cameras better — one thing I've learned while working on my porch at times during the pandemic is that almost no one stops at the stop sign next to my house, which I'm not crazy about since we have young kids who play in the yard. But the speed cameras are fine with me, too, because they do slow people down, even if it's for the "wrong" reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket, even in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

I do! I drive 20 MPH on streets that are labeled as having 20 MPH limits and 25 elsewhere in DC. If you have to slam the breaks on the avoid a speeding ticket then that is your fault for speeding, not the fault of the camera

No, it's the fault of the politician that put them there for nothing but pr and revenue. It's the fault of the staffers trying so desperately to please. But I thought it was about safety not punishment? Speed cameras are a nuisance that in the large majority cases does not improve safety. Their main purpose is to harrass citizens and raise money. You seem to think that's a good thing. I do not.

I do not believe your tale of piety. Even my grandmother, the slowest driver i've ever known, hit 26 on Military without trying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

Not sure what sympathy has to do with this. I am just as adept at not getting a ticket as everyone else. I'm also not a speed demon. I'm a normal regular citizen that thinks mass speed cameras, what is being proposed by Bowser, are a bad idea that do nothing to make streets safer while exponentially increasing government harrassment of regular citizens. It says a lot that you are trying to slander me instead of providing a substantive reason why widespread speed cameras would be a good public policy choice.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

Not sure what sympathy has to do with this. I am just as adept at not getting a ticket as everyone else. I'm also not a speed demon. I'm a normal regular citizen that thinks mass speed cameras, what is being proposed by Bowser, are a bad idea that do nothing to make streets safer while exponentially increasing government harrassment of regular citizens. It says a lot that you are trying to slander me instead of providing a substantive reason why widespread speed cameras would be a good public policy choice.

Well I'd prefer to have structural changes, like narrowing roads, removing lanes, building hard barriers, and things like that to slow people down. You good with that instead?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

Not sure what sympathy has to do with this. I am just as adept at not getting a ticket as everyone else. I'm also not a speed demon. I'm a normal regular citizen that thinks mass speed cameras, what is being proposed by Bowser, are a bad idea that do nothing to make streets safer while exponentially increasing government harrassment of regular citizens. It says a lot that you are trying to slander me instead of providing a substantive reason why widespread speed cameras would be a good public policy choice.

Well I'd prefer to have structural changes, like narrowing roads, removing lanes, building hard barriers, and things like that to slow people down. You good with that instead?

If you want to have that conversation then have that conversation. I do not want those things. Im sure some people like yourself do but am confident that a large majority do not but if I'm wrong about that then I would accept it. Can you say the same?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is about to get a lot less car friendly. Bowser has already started the process to install speed cameras throughout the city. We have less than a year to dial it back.

Not sure "enforcing the speed limit" means "a lot less car friendly." If you don't speed by more than 5 mph, you won't get a ticket.

Oh please. Not a single one of us drives below 25 mph at all times. So save that holier than thou bs. Speed cameras are a nuisance that don't make traffic better. In fact they make it more dangerous because people slam on the brakes right before approaching one. This isn't about safety. It's about revenue and treating the citizenry as a resource to be plundered. It's a solution in search of a problem.

You don't even have to drive under 25. Just drive under 35 and you don't get a ticket in a 25mph zone. I have zero sympathy for you.

Not sure what sympathy has to do with this. I am just as adept at not getting a ticket as everyone else. I'm also not a speed demon. I'm a normal regular citizen that thinks mass speed cameras, what is being proposed by Bowser, are a bad idea that do nothing to make streets safer while exponentially increasing government harrassment of regular citizens. It says a lot that you are trying to slander me instead of providing a substantive reason why widespread speed cameras would be a good public policy choice.

Well I'd prefer to have structural changes, like narrowing roads, removing lanes, building hard barriers, and things like that to slow people down. You good with that instead?

If you want to have that conversation then have that conversation. I do not want those things. Im sure some people like yourself do but am confident that a large majority do not but if I'm wrong about that then I would accept it. Can you say the same?

So you don't want speed cameras and you don't want to structurally change the roads, so you're ok with the status quo of many people dying and being injured every year?

It doesn't have to be that way, it's a choice that you are making.