6 weeks pregnant and went in for our 1st OB sono, no yolk sac

Anonymous
After failing clomid, 2 failed IUIs we went to IVF and I had pretty severe OHSS requiring fluid aspiration twice and was really dehydrated and almost needed a blood thinner. Recently got a reaction to endometrim or a yeast infection (itchy). Well we went in for our first OB and they saw a sac but no yolk sac or fetal pole. They drew blood and my beta was 5,250 but what does that mean if they baby stopped growing. They want me to come back to repeat the beta and sono in 2 days. They said it may be a few days behind but I'm not sure how possible that it. Feeling so sad. This was our last try. Anyone every have a slow growing fetus?
Anonymous
I can completely understand your sorrow. I have not had this happen to me. We're still trying to get pregnant. I know it's hard to look at anything positive in this, but the fact that you got pregnant means that you are able to conceive. You got pregnant once so it can happen again and perhaps with success next time. Don't lose your hope or faith.
Anonymous
OP here: I just don't think I can do IVF again, esp with the severe OHSS symptoms I had. It was realy tough on my body. Out of 15 eggs retrieved , 10 were fine at day 3 but only 2 embryos were viable on day 5 and even with that I'm so disappointed and disheartened. My husband and I had already decided that this would be out last effort. I'll be 39 in a few months.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can completely understand your sorrow. I have not had this happen to me. We're still trying to get pregnant. I know it's hard to look at anything positive in this, but the fact that you got pregnant means that you are able to conceive. You got pregnant once so it can happen again and perhaps with success next time. Don't lose your hope or faith.


OP here: we have a DD who is 4yo via natural conception but when I was in labor the OBs messed up and didn't pick up on my pre-eclampsia which lead to my placebtal abruption. I lost so much blood that I had to get transfused but b/c they waited too long I ended up with damage in the part of my brain that triggers for your body to make FSH (Sheehan's) so I don't ovulate any more and had to get fertility treatment which doesn't seem to work for me. I should have tried fertility treatment earlier but was too scared about getting pregnant as I almost died from the severe blood lost from when I had my DD. I had to undergo physical therapy, had hypertension and rheumatoid arthritis up until a year ago which is when we decided I was healthy enough to try. So this loss is very sad. I was really hoping for a sibling for my DD. Husband does not want to adopt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can completely understand your sorrow. I have not had this happen to me. We're still trying to get pregnant. I know it's hard to look at anything positive in this, but the fact that you got pregnant means that you are able to conceive. You got pregnant once so it can happen again and perhaps with success next time. Don't lose your hope or faith.


OP here: we have a DD who is 4yo via natural conception but when I was in labor the OBs messed up and didn't pick up on my pre-eclampsia which lead to my placebtal abruption. I lost so much blood that I had to get transfused but b/c they waited too long I ended up with damage in the part of my brain that triggers for your body to make FSH (Sheehan's) so I don't ovulate any more and had to get fertility treatment which doesn't seem to work for me. I should have tried fertility treatment earlier but was too scared about getting pregnant as I almost died from the severe blood lost from when I had my DD. I had to undergo physical therapy, had hypertension and rheumatoid arthritis up until a year ago which is when we decided I was healthy enough to try. So this loss is very sad. I was really hoping for a sibling for my DD. Husband does not want to adopt.


OP, I feel for you. It sounds like it may not be safe for you to have another one. But you had one terrible doctor that has caused you alot of anguish and difficulty. Most OB's are not as terrible as that one obviously was. Should you get pregnant next time I would highly recommend a perinatologist, a high risk OB. The best perinatologist I know is the group Khoury, Nies, Bronsky (they're in VA, not sure where you are). You wouldn't believe the kind of cases they handle...successfully I might add. But know that there may still be options if you want to look into them. Dominion Fertility Center in VA does lots of natural cycle treatments. They seem to feel that an egg that is naturally released by a woman's body is of much higher quality than stimulated eggs. Plus then natural cycle involves hardly any drugs. It seems that over in Europe more women opt for natural fertility treatment than one with meds and drugs. Their success rates are posted on their web site. I know that SG does not do natural cycles however.

My husband does not wish to adopt either. I'm older than you and feel like I'm running out of time. I had two failed IVF's. My last successful IVF was 6 years ago and now I have DS. The fact that you are 39, produced a large number of viable eggs, and also conceived is impressive to someone like me!

Whatever you decide, I hope that time will help you to feel comfortable with your decision. It's a very personal decision and there may be no perfect choice, but the choice you make I'm sure will be the best one for you.
Anonymous
OP here: PP, thank you so much. I really appreciate your support and your suggestions. I actually went to work then began to contract like a period cramp then it got worse so I came home. I don't now what to do. I'm mildly spotting but cramping like early labor pains. I took some Tylenol and am using a hot water bottle which has taken the edge off. Would Natural Cycle be like IUI? At SG, they only quoted a 18% success with IUI for my age group and 40 % with IVF. Originally we planned to do only IUI but got so disheartened we figured IVF had the better odds and decided to try one cycle and if that didn't work, call it quits. I don't feel ready to call it quits but the OHSS was really horrible. I had 2liters aspirated then 1.5 L under anesthesia. I did start to worry the pregnancy wasn't going well when the OHSS symptoms got better last week. I think we'll be taking a few months off and waiting until thi summer to even think about possibly trying again. I know that means I'll be older so my chances may go down but it's emotionally difficult. This was why instead of trying a 3rd IUI we went for IVF hoping it would work. Did you go to Dominion Fertility? Who did you see? Thanks again.
Anonymous
OP - I hope you are doing OK! It sounds like you have gone through a lot over the past few years. I can't imagine how traumatic the first delivery must have been. Don't have any experience in what you have gone through - I just hope for the best for you!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here: PP, thank you so much. I really appreciate your support and your suggestions. I actually went to work then began to contract like a period cramp then it got worse so I came home. I don't now what to do. I'm mildly spotting but cramping like early labor pains. I took some Tylenol and am using a hot water bottle which has taken the edge off. Would Natural Cycle be like IUI? At SG, they only quoted a 18% success with IUI for my age group and 40 % with IVF. Originally we planned to do only IUI but got so disheartened we figured IVF had the better odds and decided to try one cycle and if that didn't work, call it quits. I don't feel ready to call it quits but the OHSS was really horrible. I had 2liters aspirated then 1.5 L under anesthesia. I did start to worry the pregnancy wasn't going well when the OHSS symptoms got better last week. I think we'll be taking a few months off and waiting until thi summer to even think about possibly trying again. I know that means I'll be older so my chances may go down but it's emotionally difficult. This was why instead of trying a 3rd IUI we went for IVF hoping it would work. Did you go to Dominion Fertility? Who did you see? Thanks again.


My thoughts are with you. I hope you rest and recover. No, I don't believe natural is anything like IUI. As you said IUI still involves drugs. It still stimulates many follicles. In a natural cycle, however, no drugs are used to stimulate eggs. Only one egg, the one that your body is naturally releasing that month, is retrieved and immediately fertilized. As I understand, there are two doctors at Dominion. They have several locations too. Not sure where you are though.

I haven't gone to Dominion. I'm still at SG. But I'm contemplating switching to Dominion because SG may give up on me (I have responded poorly to meds the last three IVF's) and I just turned 42.

Acupuncture and yoga may also help to relieve some stress too. There are some studies that show that stress may prevent pregnancy. I was talking to a RE at SG and she said if you do acupuncture it's important to also make sure to alleviate the stresses around your acu treatments. Some studies also show that if acu costs are stressful for you or the drive to your acu appts are stressful, then it can also lower your chances of pregnancy!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: PP, thank you so much. I really appreciate your support and your suggestions. I actually went to work then began to contract like a period cramp then it got worse so I came home. I don't now what to do. I'm mildly spotting but cramping like early labor pains. I took some Tylenol and am using a hot water bottle which has taken the edge off. Would Natural Cycle be like IUI? At SG, they only quoted a 18% success with IUI for my age group and 40 % with IVF. Originally we planned to do only IUI but got so disheartened we figured IVF had the better odds and decided to try one cycle and if that didn't work, call it quits. I don't feel ready to call it quits but the OHSS was really horrible. I had 2liters aspirated then 1.5 L under anesthesia. I did start to worry the pregnancy wasn't going well when the OHSS symptoms got better last week. I think we'll be taking a few months off and waiting until thi summer to even think about possibly trying again. I know that means I'll be older so my chances may go down but it's emotionally difficult. This was why instead of trying a 3rd IUI we went for IVF hoping it would work. Did you go to Dominion Fertility? Who did you see? Thanks again.


My thoughts are with you. I hope you rest and recover. No, I don't believe natural is anything like IUI. As you said IUI still involves drugs. It still stimulates many follicles. In a natural cycle, however, no drugs are used to stimulate eggs. Only one egg, the one that your body is naturally releasing that month, is retrieved and immediately fertilized. As I understand, there are two doctors at Dominion. They have several locations too. Not sure where you are though.

I haven't gone to Dominion. I'm still at SG. But I'm contemplating switching to Dominion because SG may give up on me (I have responded poorly to meds the last three IVF's) and I just turned 42.

Acupuncture and yoga may also help to relieve some stress too. There are some studies that show that stress may prevent pregnancy. I was talking to a RE at SG and she said if you do acupuncture it's important to also make sure to alleviate the stresses around your acu treatments. Some studies also show that if acu costs are stressful for you or the drive to your acu appts are stressful, then it can also lower your chances of pregnancy!


OP here: Thanks for the support and information. Unfortunately, I don't ovulate naturally anymore after what happened with my first delivery (severe post partum hemorrhage causing Sheenen Syndrome). With bedrest today the cramps got better but worry about when the miscarriage will fully occur. Will I be at work and doule over from cramps then bleed through my clothes? I'm wearing a pad but rught now it's just spotting.
Anonymous
I haven't had a miscarriage before so I don't know what it would be like or feel like. BUt it sounds like you really need lots of bedrest. Hang in there and rest!

Even though you do not ovulate, do the eggs mature? At least Dominion won't have to to use drugs to stimulate your follicles. They will likely retrieve the egg once they determine it has matured.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven't had a miscarriage before so I don't know what it would be like or feel like. BUt it sounds like you really need lots of bedrest. Hang in there and rest!

Even though you do not ovulate, do the eggs mature? At least Dominion won't have to to use drugs to stimulate your follicles. They will likely retrieve the egg once they determine it has matured.


OP here: I read their site and to qualify you have to have regular period, every 25-34 days, which means you go through a normal ovulation cycle. My body no longer does this. Before the delivery, I did. I used basal temp and ovulation kits to track when we were trying to concieve. I had my period b/t 28-30days like clock work. But then after, it became every 4-6 months. Now if I have one it's between 45-60 days which means no egg, just withdrawal bleed.

I have to go back to work tomorrow. What to I say if I don't feel much like speaking to people (clients)?
Anonymous
Dominion's web site is not up to date or accurate. On it's web site it states that the natural cycle is only available for women under 35-38. I called andwas told this is no longer true, it's old information. So perhaps a phone call is warranted to get correct information from them.

If you dont' feel like speaking to people at work, you can say you aren't feeling well, fighting a bug, have a very sore throat and are trying to avoid using your voice.
Anonymous
I'm really sorry - miscarriages suck, and more so when you've put that much effort into getting pregnant. FWIW, I cried randomly and unpredictably after my miscarriage for several weeks. The bus ride to work in the mornings was prime time, and I kept my office door shut a lot. Part of it is hormones, so cut yourself a break.
Anonymous
OP here: I'm not sure if it's a miracle but compared to our ultrasound 2 days ago, they saw a yolk sac today and the pregnancy sac is more defined. The RE didn't look all that happy or optimistic thought b/c we're behind schedule and I'm still cramping and spotting. I hope to God that by some miracle they are wrong about my dates and this is a healthy pregnancy and not a delayed miscarriage. Please pray for us. Thanks for all your support and positive thoughts.
Anonymous
OP here, what a roller coaster. We got our b hcg and it did not go up but stayed about the same. So they said they are not giving up on us since at this stage they reliy more on the u/s and not beta unless it falls a lot. I don't know if I have a miscarriage or pregnancy. It's so stressful. All I can do is pray that the baby is healthy and will grow and fight fight fight to survive.
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