Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in DC and, gasp, work in Fairfax. It’s an easy 35 minute reverse commute by car. Transit would take 2 hours each way. Did you know people like us exist? I need a car more than you need a child’s toy.

You are a distinct minority that doesn't deserve to be catered to.

No they aren't. There are thousands more reverse commuters than bicycle commuters. Less than 100 people a day bike on Connecticut.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

I live in DC and, gasp, work in Fairfax. It’s an easy 35 minute reverse commute by car. Transit would take 2 hours each way. Did you know people like us exist? I need a car more than you need a child’s toy.

The reason it is faster to drive than to take public transport is because of policy decisions made years ago that have taxpayers subsiding the roads you use instead of trains and buses. It isn't some innate certainty that someone committing that distance would have a faster car trip; the only way that is possible is if enough public space is set aside for cars, which is public space that can't be used for other purposes like bus lanes, parkland, etc.

Then let's spend the money on trains, buses and other mass transit instead of wasting it on an extremely niche special interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

I live in DC and, gasp, work in Fairfax. It’s an easy 35 minute reverse commute by car. Transit would take 2 hours each way. Did you know people like us exist? I need a car more than you need a child’s toy.

The reason it is faster to drive than to take public transport is because of policy decisions made years ago that have taxpayers subsiding the roads you use instead of trains and buses. It isn't some innate certainty that someone committing that distance would have a faster car trip; the only way that is possible is if enough public space is set aside for cars, which is public space that can't be used for other purposes like bus lanes, parkland, etc.

Then let's spend the money on trains, buses and other mass transit instead of wasting it on an extremely niche special interest.

Trains, buses, and other mass transit work better when people can reach them easily and safely on foot or by bike. It's not transit OR walking/biking, it's transit AND walking/biking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

peapod
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bike

plenty of options to get to a store within a short distance to get food or have it delivered

Peapod does not deliver by bike, so you're just trading one car for another.

That's like saying mail or package delivery by the USPS is just trading one car for another.

What’s the difference?

I order groceries every month or so, and I've never seen a peapod driver do more than three deliveries at a time. And those three deliveries are never in the same neighborhood, so the driver is moving all over the place. I really doubt it saves much in the way of fossil fuels compared with all three customers driving to the store. I do try to walk to the store for most of my shopping, but I like the convenience of delivery for heavy items.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

peapod
walk
bike

plenty of options to get to a store within a short distance to get food or have it delivered

Peapod does not deliver by bike, so you're just trading one car for another.

That's like saying mail or package delivery by the USPS is just trading one car for another.

What’s the difference?

I order groceries every month or so, and I've never seen a peapod driver do more than three deliveries at a time. And those three deliveries are never in the same neighborhood, so the driver is moving all over the place. I really doubt it saves much in the way of fossil fuels compared with all three customers driving to the store. I do try to walk to the store for most of my shopping, but I like the convenience of delivery for heavy items.

Do you follow the delivery driver around? Do you drive to the warehouse to pick up your Amazon orders and to the post office to pick up your mail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

Parts of Bethesda are more "urban" than the Palisades, Spring Valley, Chevy Chase DC, Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, AU Park, Kent, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

Parts of Bethesda are more "urban" than the Palisades, Spring Valley, Chevy Chase DC, Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, AU Park, Kent, etc.

The Palisades, Spring Valley, Chevy Chase DC, Cleveland Park, Forest Hills, AU Park, Kent, etc. are urban. Parts of Bethesda are also urban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

What fun word games you play. Upper NW is suburban and has always been so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

What fun word games you play. Upper NW is suburban and has always been so.

Upper NW used to be farmland, and before that, it was forest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

What fun word games you play. Upper NW is suburban and has always been so.

Upper NW used to be farmland, and before that, it was forest.

True. But I'll bet a lot of folks move to and stay in Upper NW for more suburban style neighborhoods. People looking for the full-on "Urbanist" experience have other choices in DC. Not every neighborhood needs to be upzoned to look like the Navy Yard or even Friendship Heights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let's close down all the roads to all cars and just have buses and bikes. Problem solved.

Except for that pesky need for supplies like food or anything any shops might sell.

Maybe it's a weird concept for you suburban commuters, but in most cities you don't actually need a car to go to the store.

You do understand that 1) the stores need roads to get their goods and 2) upper NW is not urban

Upper NW DC is urban. Good grief.

Many NW neighborhoods have a distinctly suburban feel, although the smart growth development lobby is fixated on trying to change that.

DC does have suburbs, but they are not in DC. Next you'll tell us that NYC isn't urban.

What fun word games you play. Upper NW is suburban and has always been so.

Upper NW used to be farmland, and before that, it was forest.

True. But I'll bet a lot of folks move to and stay in Upper NW for more suburban style neighborhoods. People looking for the full-on "Urbanist" experience have other choices in DC. Not every neighborhood needs to be upzoned to look like the Navy Yard or even Friendship Heights.

"the full-on 'Urbanist' experience", meaning life in a city?