"out-of-touch, entitled little sh*ts..."

[Anonymous]

The Washington Post review of the new book "Excellent Sheep," a Yale professor's harsh assessment of today's Ivy League...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-mind-is-a-terrible-thing-to-waste-at-yale/2014/08/15/b3e6334a-22fd-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The Washington Post review of the new book "Excellent Sheep," a Yale professor's harsh assessment of today's Ivy League...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-mind-is-a-terrible-thing-to-waste-at-yale/2014/08/15/b3e6334a-22fd-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

I think you mean "former Yale professor."

He was denied tenure, and apparently has spent the better part of the past decade trying to come to terms with that.

[Anonymous]

A very stupid move (to criticize a former employer which didn't grant tenure).

[Anonymous]

I posted this a couple of weeks ago and it got deleted. I didn't have the sense to use an asterisk.

[Anonymous]

I'm no ivy league rah rah person (personally, I think you can get a great education in non ivys), but I didn't get the point of the article. The author thinks people going after careers to make money instead of altruistic careers is materialistic and soulless? I went to a state univ and chose a career in business so I could get a job and support myself. Is he stating that people who go to Ivy's should only go into a service oriented careers to better humanity or that you shouldn't think about jobs after you graduate? Good luck with doing that and paying off your student loans. Yea, this article was dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm no ivy league rah rah person (personally, I think you can get a great education in non ivys), but I didn't get the point of the article. The author thinks people going after careers to make money instead of altruistic careers is materialistic and soulless? I went to a state univ and chose a career in business so I could get a job and support myself. Is he stating that people who go to Ivy's should only go into a service oriented careers to better humanity or that you shouldn't think about jobs after you graduate? Good luck with doing that and paying off your student loans. Yea, this article was dumb.

Fair points. But just to be accurate, the "article" is a review of a book. So what you're saying is the book is dumb, which, again, is a perfectly fair opinion. (And sorta seems to be the opinion of the reviewer too)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm no ivy league rah rah person (personally, I think you can get a great education in non ivys), but I didn't get the point of the article. The author thinks people going after careers to make money instead of altruistic careers is materialistic and soulless? I went to a state univ and chose a career in business so I could get a job and support myself. Is he stating that people who go to Ivy's should only go into a service oriented careers to better humanity or that you shouldn't think about jobs after you graduate? Good luck with doing that and paying off your student loans. Yea, this article was dumb.

Fair points. But just to be accurate, the "article" is a review of a book. So what you're saying is the book is dumb, which, again, is a perfectly fair opinion. (And sorta seems to be the opinion of the reviewer too)

The book doesn't have to be good, it's by an ivy graduate so no matter how bad it is... He gets an A-.

[Anonymous]

He's a Jewish guy who didn't get into Harvard and "just" got into Columbia and never got over it. He's a jerk who is biting the hand that used to feed him.

[Anonymous]

I've read two of the articles he published prior to this book and he trades in overgeneralizations, which helps to sell books I'm sure. All Ivy kids are entitled brats (or your own word) headed to Wall Street. All public university kids are thoughtful and intelligent individuals who ponder the Big Questions. Really, there are no Ivy kids headed to the Peace Corps and NGOs, and there are no state university kids headed to b-school?

[Anonymous]

There is a rap on undergrad Ives in the work place. It's like they are clueless or just don't care. I am in the "they just don't care" camp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a rap on undergrad Ives in the work place. It's like they are clueless or just don't care. I am in the "they just don't care" camp.

That must be why Goldman hires so many Ivy undergrads straight out of school. Because they don't care about making money or hiring smart people, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a rap on undergrad Ives in the work place. It's like they are clueless or just don't care. I am in the "they just don't care" camp.

I know this rap exists, and it's promoted on DCUM by one person in particular who runs a widget factory, or something of that nature, that apparently Ivy grads aren't interested in. Or they don't find fulfilling. Or they don't like him as a manager. Or something.

Count me in the "don't care, just stop making overly broad generalizations" camp.

[Anonymous]

I thought this was going to be a thread about Notre Dame grads...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm no ivy league rah rah person (personally, I think you can get a great education in non ivys), but I didn't get the point of the article. The author thinks people going after careers to make money instead of altruistic careers is materialistic and soulless? I went to a state univ and chose a career in business so I could get a job and support myself. Is he stating that people who go to Ivy's should only go into a service oriented careers to better humanity or that you shouldn't think about jobs after you graduate? Good luck with doing that and paying off your student loans. Yea, this article was dumb.

Fair points. But just to be accurate, the "article" is a review of a book. So what you're saying is the book is dumb, which, again, is a perfectly fair opinion. (And sorta seems to be the opinion of the reviewer too)

The book doesn't have to be good, it's by an ivy graduate so no matter how bad it is... He gets an A-.

OMG - AN A- not an A+ - you just gave the kiss of DEATH!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A very stupid move (to criticize a former employer which didn't grant tenure).

He's laughing all the way to the bank. He's no longer within spitting distance of NYC, which might hurt, but still.

Anyway, once a university denies you tenure, it's not like they're ever going to reconsider. He's got his teaching slot somewhere in the midwest now. Unless he does some actual research (and a hatchet job like this doesn't qualify as "research" and most likely hurts him) he's never going back to the very top universities.