Why is redshirting so common around here?

[Anonymous]

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Also, specifically which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

Lots of European countries. Finland, for one.

Yes, but they start school much earlier. 97% of 3-6-year-olds are in day care and preschool, and the day care and preschool curricula are aligned with the school curricula.

http://www.npr.org/2014/03/08/287255411/what-the-u-s-can-learn-from-finland-where-school-starts-at-age-7

Now, how about other countries? Which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also, specifically which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

Lots of European countries. Finland, for one.

Yes, but they start school much earlier. 97% of 3-6-year-olds are in day care and preschool, and the day care and preschool curricula are aligned with the school curricula.

http://www.npr.org/2014/03/08/287255411/what-the-u-s-can-learn-from-finland-where-school-starts-at-age-7

Now, how about other countries? Which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

But their 6 year old pre-primary school is only 1/2 day and is play-based.

NOT saying this has anything to do with schooling, but wanted to point out that Finland does not have it all figured out.

http://www.adn.com/article/20141109/majority-depression-sufferers-don-t-get-therapy-finland-drugs-more-readily

What does "play-based" mean? What do the 3-6-year-olds do for the rest of the day, while they are in universal day care and preschool? And what about all of the other countries? Why the focus solely on Finland?

Play-based means that the encourage learning through play. They go back to the regular daycare program for the rest of the day.

Someone mentioned Finland earlier? I think people refer to Finland because they seem to have a very successful model. Must be doing something right. May not scale for larger countries but there are probably lessons to be learned. In this case, not pushing academics until children are older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also, specifically which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

Lots of European countries. Finland, for one.

Yes, but they start school much earlier. 97% of 3-6-year-olds are in day care and preschool, and the day care and preschool curricula are aligned with the school curricula.

http://www.npr.org/2014/03/08/287255411/what-the-u-s-can-learn-from-finland-where-school-starts-at-age-7

Now, how about other countries? Which other countries wait until 7 for first grade?

But their 6 year old pre-primary school is only 1/2 day and is play-based.

What does "play-based" mean? What do the 3-6-year-olds do for the rest of the day, while they are in universal day care and preschool? And what about all of the other countries? Why the focus solely on Finland?

Play-based means that the encourage learning through play. They go back to the regular daycare program for the rest of the day.

Someone mentioned Finland earlier? I think people refer to Finland because they seem to have a very successful model. Must be doing something right. May not scale for larger countries but there are probably lessons to be learned. In this case, not pushing academics until children are older.

*fixed my quote from above post*

NOT saying this has anything to do with schooling, but wanted to point out that Finland does not have it all figured out.

http://www.adn.com/article/20141109/majority-depre...apy-finland-drugs-more-readily

[Anonymous]

Ugh. Having a bad quote day. trying again.

http://www.adn.com/article/20141109/majority-depression-sufferers-don-t-get-therapy-finland-drugs-more-readily

[Anonymous]

Who were the "happiest" people - Danes? When do they start?

[Anonymous]

Germany starts first after the age of six--and it is only a half day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Germany starts first after the age of six--and it is only a half day.

Again, most German children ages 3-6 are in preschool (Kindergarten). And traditionally everybody only has a half day of school, not just six-year-olds.

[Anonymous]

I was trying to find out more info about Denmark's educational system and came across this:
http://www.educationengland.org.uk/documents/pdfs/2003-ofsted-six-year-olds-comparative.pdf

Sounds like the UK system is pretty similar to the US.

Some personal favorite quotes:
"When they start in this school at age 6 (that is, in the pre-school class), they are allowed to be children for one year."

"Finally, the English children were at school. Pre-school was well behind them, and they had embarked on the serious business of acquiring knowledge and skills on which they would be tested; they, no less than their teachers and parents, knew all this.The Danish and Finnish children were not in school at all, but in pre-school classes, kindergartens and day- care centres. The more or less serious business of schooling still lay ahead."

[Anonymous]

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

These are the same parents who over schedule their kids only a few years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

I'm an educated parent who understood that my kid was ready for kindergarten, and therefore sent her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

I don't think this is the reason for majority of parents.

[Anonymous]

I don't think this is the reason for majority of parents.

We disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

I don't think this is the reason for majority of parents.

Oh right. There are only two "real" reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why is redshirting so common around here?

Because we have a lot of educated parents who understand that their kids need another year to play.

I'm an educated parent who understood that my kid was ready for kindergarten, and therefore sent her.

+1000. We are educated parents and saw our child outgrew just playing at school and switched him since he missed the cutoff and his progress has in al areas has been huge. Kids do not need an extra year of play. There is a balance and that tells me parents are ent giving their kids time to play at home and at the playground, so that is what they expect schools to do. Kids need a balance of play, learning and structured activities.