It's official: Gen Z are not delaying marriage til 30s anymore, young weddings are cool again

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??

1. Serious boys at elite colleges and 2. Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.

1) not true
2) maybe but who GAF about weirdo frat bros?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about the other trend of not marrying at all?

I have coworkers with babies who are not married.

This is the actual trend. But it doesn't fit in with the current narrative being pushed

UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.

Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.

I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.

Traveling with mama is not what people mean when they say "travel and see the world." That you would unironically write that tells me so much about you.

DP.

What does “travel and see the world” mean if not travel and see the world, which one can do with their friends, their parents, or even by themselves!

Do you mean getting drunk, high, and having sex with random strangers? That’s the only scenario in which you’re right and one would not get that experience traveling with mama…

Traveling with your parents - where you are handheld, taken to mommy-selected destinations and landmarks, and are told what to do and what to eat and when to go to sleep - are completely different from travel that you yourself organize, budget for and navigate unassisted. The first is a theme park. The second is an adulting experience.

My kids’ social media is full of college and 20-something couples traveling together. It sounds like you’re a bit oblivious to the lifestyle of ambitious UMC and UC young adults. Travel photos are couples and large friend groups with lots of couples. Then once they’re engaged or married, they do everything with their young spouse.

Social media is not real life.

How old are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about the other trend of not marrying at all?

I have coworkers with babies who are not married.

This is the actual trend. But it doesn't fit in with the current narrative being pushed

UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.

Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.

I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.

Rich pretty people set the trends; rich young celebs, rich influencers, and rich friends or friends or friends in your kids’ social media orbit. I suspect some here are triggered because they’re from humble beginnings and could not afford to do this, and also, they know they can’t afford to provide their kids with this, either. It’s a tremendous leg up in life to get wedding, first house, and kids out of the way in your 20s. Those who delay those milestones are forever behind.

LOL. No. You live in a fantasy world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?

It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/

The topline bride at the link you posted is a 49-year old Tinsley Mortimer.

It’s probably worth noting that Tinsley eloped with her first husband—a catch from the “right” kind of family—at 18. Parents made them annul the marriage, but they went on to remarry officially at 27. And eventually divorced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about the other trend of not marrying at all?

I have coworkers with babies who are not married.

This is the actual trend. But it doesn't fit in with the current narrative being pushed

UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.

Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.

I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.

Traveling with mama is not what people mean when they say "travel and see the world." That you would unironically write that tells me so much about you.

DP.

What does “travel and see the world” mean if not travel and see the world, which one can do with their friends, their parents, or even by themselves!

Do you mean getting drunk, high, and having sex with random strangers? That’s the only scenario in which you’re right and one would not get that experience traveling with mama…

No they mean exploring the world on your own without your parents paying for everything and holding your hand the entire time. Navigating a foreign transportation system or a language you don't speak on your own without well-traveled parents who can always step in to explain or guide.

I traveled a ton between birth and age 12 because my dad worked for a huge international company and we lived all over the world as he helped set up offices and factories for them. And then even after we settled in the US so I could have a "normal" high school experience we still traveled abroad a lot. So I was a "well-traveled" kid. But when I traveled in my 20s on my own I learned different things about myself. It was a totally different experience. Independence is a really powerful thing to explore and I do think I would have missed out on something if I'd married straight out of college even though obviously I wasn't lacking in opportunities to travel.

I never did the drinking and drugging and casual sex type of travel btw. I did meet lots of interesting people but I have always known to be cautious when traveling abroad.

You’re speaking from an upper middle class / wealthy bubble. The vast majority of American kids, teens, and young adults will NEVER “see the world”. For the average American family a trip to a single European country for a week is literally a once-in-lifetime event.

So you can continue to split hairs about whether seeing the world as a kid “counts” or not, but just understand that it’s irrelevant.

DP. Isn’t that the topic of this thread?

Anyway, the point was that most young adults would benefit from getting TF out of their hometown. “Seeing the world” doesn’t just mean visiting some tourist trap in Europe.

So wait, are you talking about upper middle class young people who have almost certainly been out of their hometown? Or are you talking about lower class young people who not only have likely not gotten out of their hometown, but will never do so regardless of their age at marriage?

Most young adults should become independent and ideally live somewhere else before settling down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??

1. Serious boys at elite colleges and 2. Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.

1) not true
2) maybe but who GAF about weirdo frat bros?

The South is booming, while Northern states suffer from stagnation and brain drain. There are a lot of moneyed proper and ambitious kids at Southern colleges and a lot of affluent Yankees want to go to college there for the aesthetics, vibes, and customs. One of those customs is finding a spouse before you graduate - which is a bit more appealing than being a 33 year old in Brooklyn dating randos you met on an app. "Public colleges in the South saw a total 62.4 increase in applicants, more than double their Northern counterparts."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about the other trend of not marrying at all?

I have coworkers with babies who are not married.

This is the actual trend. But it doesn't fit in with the current narrative being pushed

UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.

Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.

I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.

Lol sure liar

[Anonymous]

Az Cohen & Valentina de Weghe, married at age 22 in 2017. Still married.



https://www.vogue.com/article/az-cohen-valentina-van-de-weghe-wedding-charlie-bird-new-york-city

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

UMC/rich kids seem to be getting married younger. These kids likely have the support of the rich parents.

Poor and MC young adults may not have the money for a wedding or to buy a house. Our kids will have college, grad school, wedding and at least down payment from the parents. I would rather my kids marry relatively young in their twenties and have kids young.

I come from humble beginnings and traveled a ton in my twenties after I started working. My kids have been traveling internationally since they were young. My kids are still minors and been to Europe and Asia several times and the US/Caribbean countless times. It isn’t like they need to spend their twenties traveling and enjoying life. They have been doing this since being born.

But your kids don't have the money either. It's you who has them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?

It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/

I’m only partially through that list, but the ages of the first four brides featured are 49, 31, 45, and 34ish (guessing because she graduated from college in 2011). I’ll keep going… slow day at work…

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/lifestyle/celebrations/wedding/2024/03/27/bonnie-masters-and-tennant-maxey-affianced-summer-wedding-planned/73118381007/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??

Serious boys at elite colleges and Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.

Thanks for explaining “flex” to us mouthbreathers. We never would have known.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are these UMC or MC men who are willing to marry in their early twenties? Who are these young pretty women supposed to marry??

1. Serious boys at elite colleges and 2. Southern university fraternities. Smart boys consume most of the same social media influencing their female peers. There is pressure to hit these milestones and 'flex' them on social media. Engagement + wedding + buying a nice house together are all a huge 'flex' (achievement/status badge) to your peers. No high-achieving boys want to be some single Barstool dweeb obsessed with sports, using dating apps, and renting an apartment when they're 30.

1) not true
2) maybe but who GAF about weirdo frat bros?

The South is booming, while Northern states suffer from stagnation and brain drain. There are a lot of moneyed proper and ambitious kids at Southern colleges and a lot of affluent Yankees want to go to college there for the aesthetics, vibes, and customs. One of those customs is finding a spouse before you graduate - which is a bit more appealing than being a 33 year old in Brooklyn dating randos you met on an app. "Public colleges in the South saw a total 62.4 increase in applicants, more than double their Northern counterparts."

The South is drowning. Flood after flood. Only a brain dead moron would choose to live in the south these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Az Cohen & Valentina de Weghe, married at age 22 in 2017. Still married.



https://www.vogue.com/article/az-cohen-valentina-van-de-weghe-wedding-charlie-bird-new-york-city

Let's hope they had enough sense to not serve suckling pig agnolotti at their "much larger", rabbi-led ceremony they wanted to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All your examples are wealthy children of celebrities. How about the celeb parents married them off to get them out of their house?

It would be invasive and against forum policies to post random young people. You are free to peruse NYT, Wapo, Boston Globe, and Palm Beach newspaper wedding announcements for high born recent college grads marrying at age 22, 23, 24 and 25.

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/entertainment/society/2024/05/05/2023-2024-season-palm-beach-weddings-and-engagements/73504256007/

I’m only partially through that list, but the ages of the first four brides featured are 49, 31, 45, and 34ish (guessing because she graduated from college in 2011). I’ll keep going… slow day at work…

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/lifestyle/celebrations/wedding/2024/03/27/bonnie-masters-and-tennant-maxey-affianced-summer-wedding-planned/73118381007/

She graduated from college in 2020, so she’s probably around 25?

[Anonymous]

Let’s revisit all these couples in 15 years. If they’re still together, great, but I suspect many will not be. These are starter marriages, people, not happily ever afters. We’ve got some real starry-eyed romantics in the crowd, it would appear.