Uh, seems like Trump's visit to the NABJ is not going well...

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Anonymous wrote:And just like that, Trump hijacked the news cycle and animated his base.


This is something that Trump doesn't ever really seem to understand. His base is not enough to get him elected. He think because there are millions who love him that is enough. But as we've seen, even 80M is not enough when 88M dislike him and won't vote for him.

He may have pandered to his base, but he lost ground with the people that matter. When Harris took over as presumptive Democratic nominee, there were about 45% support for each of them, but the undecideds grew from 2% to 9%. Those 9% (especially the ones in swing states) are the ones that will crown the victor in the election. And if anything, this interview slid more of that 9% to lean Harris.

This interview is going to go over as well as the debate went over for Biden. The only distinction is that his base doesn't care, so he won't be forced out of the nomination. But whether he's stolen the news cycle or not, he's losing his grip on swing states and this only exacerbated his swing state problems. When Harris announces her VP nomination, she'll grab some swing states. Each member of her short list will bring a different subset of the swing states. Then when the Democratic convention hits, she'll actually get a bump, unlike Trump. Trump's selection of Vance killed any bump that he was supposed to get from the RNC convention. This interview was another drive up the exit ramp on the highway to 270. He's getting on the highway, but going the wrong way.


I think the PP's point is that the media focus is now on this instead of All-Kamala All the time.


I understand that. But what Trump doesn't understand is commanding the media focus is only important when that is going to sway undecided votes. Commanding the media focus to speak indirectly to his base only serves to fuel his egocentric Hubris. He loves that which is why he does it. He loves his sycophants idolatry of him. But this type of media focus on him, only serves to drive uncommitted votes away from him. He's winning the battle, but losing the war.
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?


That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?


Is this on the top 1,000 things anyone could possibly care about in a presidential race?
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Anonymous wrote:And just like that, Trump hijacked the news cycle and animated his base.


This is something that Trump doesn't ever really seem to understand. His base is not enough to get him elected. He think because there are millions who love him that is enough. But as we've seen, even 80M is not enough when 88M dislike him and won't vote for him.

He may have pandered to his base, but he lost ground with the people that matter. When Harris took over as presumptive Democratic nominee, there were about 45% support for each of them, but the undecideds grew from 2% to 9%. Those 9% (especially the ones in swing states) are the ones that will crown the victor in the election. And if anything, this interview slid more of that 9% to lean Harris.

This interview is going to go over as well as the debate went over for Biden. The only distinction is that his base doesn't care, so he won't be forced out of the nomination. But whether he's stolen the news cycle or not, he's losing his grip on swing states and this only exacerbated his swing state problems. When Harris announces her VP nomination, she'll grab some swing states. Each member of her short list will bring a different subset of the swing states. Then when the Democratic convention hits, she'll actually get a bump, unlike Trump. Trump's selection of Vance killed any bump that he was supposed to get from the RNC convention. This interview was another drive up the exit ramp on the highway to 270. He's getting on the highway, but going the wrong way.


I think the PP's point is that the media focus is now on this instead of All-Kamala All the time.

All the media was focused on Biden after the debate. There is such a thing as too much attention and Donald is getting it. He looked old and doddering, exposing how racist and feeble he is. Layer that atop his natural off putting nature and… good luck.


+1 Trump does better when no one is paying attention to him. As soon as we hear him speak, we're reminded how weird and odious he is. How exhausting.
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


If you are going to twist facts you should at least get the actual facts right.

Her mother spoke Tamil around the house. That is not Hindu. Like, really not Hindi. And Kamala can't say much more than "I'm hungry" or "Hello" or other childhood basics.

She went to churches WAY more than any Hindu temples.

And Obama wasn't ADOS. Still got elected. Twice.

Yes, let’s get all the facts straight.

Summers in India are way more than “hello.” Churches are simply wrong. Mom is Hindu. Mom raised her since 7…

And, golly, no comment on her pressuring Newsom to veto anti-caste legislation in California? Or the fact that she is Brahmin? Or that her dad is part Indian? Here’s the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/22/indian-americans-caste-discrimination-newsom-veto/

Imagine if Obama supported discrimination amongst, say, Hutus and Tutsis in the United States. Then we would have a story.

Or if Obama’s dad said he was superior to other African tribes because of a "Gopalan bloodline that goes back more than 1,000 years". That’s what Kamala’s mom said. And that, by the way, is a slave-owning bloodline in India. Here’s the link for that: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55786214





I'm gonna tell you the truth - I don't think a whole lot of people here care more about anti-caste legislation in California then we care about Dobbs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?


That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.

So if she says she’s ADOS, that’s OK?


What is ADOS?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?


That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?


You are really weird
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And just like that, Trump hijacked the news cycle and animated his base.


This is something that Trump doesn't ever really seem to understand. His base is not enough to get him elected. He think because there are millions who love him that is enough. But as we've seen, even 80M is not enough when 88M dislike him and won't vote for him.

He may have pandered to his base, but he lost ground with the people that matter. When Harris took over as presumptive Democratic nominee, there were about 45% support for each of them, but the undecideds grew from 2% to 9%. Those 9% (especially the ones in swing states) are the ones that will crown the victor in the election. And if anything, this interview slid more of that 9% to lean Harris.

This interview is going to go over as well as the debate went over for Biden. The only distinction is that his base doesn't care, so he won't be forced out of the nomination. But whether he's stolen the news cycle or not, he's losing his grip on swing states and this only exacerbated his swing state problems. When Harris announces her VP nomination, she'll grab some swing states. Each member of her short list will bring a different subset of the swing states. Then when the Democratic convention hits, she'll actually get a bump, unlike Trump. Trump's selection of Vance killed any bump that he was supposed to get from the RNC convention. This interview was another drive up the exit ramp on the highway to 270. He's getting on the highway, but going the wrong way.


I think the PP's point is that the media focus is now on this instead of All-Kamala All the time.

All the media was focused on Biden after the debate. There is such a thing as too much attention and Donald is getting it. He looked old and doddering, exposing how racist and feeble he is. Layer that atop his natural off putting nature and… good luck.


+1 Trump does better when no one is paying attention to him. As soon as we hear him speak, we're reminded how weird and odious he is. How exhausting.


And confused. He looks low energy, and confused these days. He apparently already is regretting picking the couch f#8ker as his running mate. Only the best decisions, folks, from the senile, weird racist.

He'll be back in the news again in September when the felon gets sentenced.
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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.


It's just a way of pot calling the kettle black. Both sides are equally as opportunistic and unethical.

If Ds are going to push for minority opportunities, then shouldn't each person determine where s/he fits in without flip flopping?

Kamala was Indian when it suited her. Lately, however, to get the black vote (b/c if you don't vote Joe, you ain't black), she's the first AA veep. So is she "black enough" to win over the AA community? And if she markets herself as such, doesn't she slap her Indian heritage in the face? You can only have it both ways (so to speak) if you don't pander to an audience.

The lack of observational and critical thinking skills is frightening on this forum.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


If you are going to twist facts you should at least get the actual facts right.

Her mother spoke Tamil around the house. That is not Hindu. Like, really not Hindi. And Kamala can't say much more than "I'm hungry" or "Hello" or other childhood basics.

She went to churches WAY more than any Hindu temples.

And Obama wasn't ADOS. Still got elected. Twice.

Yes, let’s get all the facts straight.

Summers in India are way more than “hello.” Churches are simply wrong. Mom is Hindu. Mom raised her since 7…

And, golly, no comment on her pressuring Newsom to veto anti-caste legislation in California? Or the fact that she is Brahmin? Or that her dad is part Indian? Here’s the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/22/indian-americans-caste-discrimination-newsom-veto/

Imagine if Obama supported discrimination amongst, say, Hutus and Tutsis in the United States. Then we would have a story.

Or if Obama’s dad said he was superior to other African tribes because of a "Gopalan bloodline that goes back more than 1,000 years". That’s what Kamala’s mom said. And that, by the way, is a slave-owning bloodline in India. Here’s the link for that: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55786214





I'm gonna tell you the truth - I don't think a whole lot of people here care more about anti-caste legislation in California then we care about Dobbs.

If Kamala identifies as black and as Indian-American, she needs to address 1) the black experience in America and 2) the Indian experience in America. If she can’t do both, she has no business leading this country. And for the ignorant out there: it is not possible to address the Indian immigrant experience without addressing caste.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.


Do you think people are idiots? The university your bachelor's is from =/= your race or ethnicity.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.


This is as idiotic as saying everyone with a Georgetown bachelor's degree is Catholic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.


Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.


Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

You keep saying that without evidence. Are you Trump?
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