ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

This is already happening? The ECNL showcase this weekend is up to U15 which are the non recruited age groups.
I like the idea of getting away from showcases and adding cups with strong RL teams is smart because that will attract more players to RL.

This won’t be a big change and aligning kids within their same grade U16 and up for showcases to me isn’t a big deal as showcases are meant for recruiting.

I don’t think clubs should or will force players up for league play as they want to be competitive and show how strong their teams are. Kids can always play up if they are capable and willing.

As long as results from showcases don’t matter I completely agree.

They do in ECNL not sure about GA

They do this year. It should be obvious but that would have to change if they were going to use GY for showcases sophomore year and up next year.

Nothing would change for league play, it would still be 8/1-7/31.

I find it hard to believe people would care a ton about exhibition showcases but my kids are aligned so I don't care much either way.

I highly doubt this would work.

Currently theres 3 levels at showcases. Mixing everyone together on the same teams would be 1/3 the amount of games. Assuming they stuck with the one game per day rule.

On top of that Sophmores would get screwed out of their recruitment opportunity when they're the players colleges coaches want to see the most.

I’m not understanding this.. please explain how sophomores are losing out.
I really don’t understand so break it down for me. Please and thank you.

It all depends on how GY showcases are defined. If its purely by grade only what will happen is parents will hold their kid back in school usually up to 2x. This will make them an 18 year old Sophmore. In league games they'd need to play on the u18/u19 team but at showcases they could play on the Sophmore u16 and u17 team.

Do you want holdbacks that are 2 years older than your kid playing with /against them at showcases?

That’s who you are competing with for college spots.

League games are for competition first with some recruiting. Showcases are for recruiting only. They are not the same.

Parents when people tell you who they are listen to them.

The people that dont want a SY 8/1-7/31 rule that younger players play on a team with their grade. Don't want this because they know it will kill GY and players playing 1-2 years down on ECNL teams. They want club soccer to be like HS Soccer.

How is a 2010 player playing 2011 or 2012 in ECNL today?

They want ECNL to adopt the MLS biobanding bullshit, so they can play down to cheat.

Do some reading on Relative Age Effect and biobanding in how it's been used for many years in Europe effectively

Only in the true Academy teams, not in P2P clubs. ECNL leadership is very firm on not letting biobanding slip in.

Instead of biobanding ECNL uses the term "u18/u19" also many of the parents on this thread think ECNL will use "GY at Showcases".

Apparently playing down is good when we do it. But everyone else is a cheater.

This is how GY sneaks into youth sports. Generally some sob story edge case is used as the justification. Once implemented real players exploit the rule and sob story edge case never sees the field.

Instead of all the shell games just add a rule to SY 8/1-7/31 that says younger players must play on the team thats their grade in school.

If you do this parents wont be able to push for GY any more because all players on the field at games will be the same grade. Also no player will be older than 8/1 that grade/year. The GY parents that want to play their 1 or 2 year holdbacks down on your kids team wont matter and nobody will listen to them because the players on each team are all already the same grade.

Nobody cares about GY and nobody cares about your weird August vendetta. It is just you and your personas.

I care, and I think its a very good idea. You seem like the only one with a vendetta. Might want to update your responses because it looks like your arch enemy expanded scope by not calling out Aug in reference to younger players.

You are the same person. No one cares. Move on. It is great you think it is good idea but the rules are already set and done. If you feel this passionately about it, go lobby your local club to put in place your weird August grade rules. I'm sure they will be all over it.

You've received a copy of the 2026/27 league rules? You know the one leagues haven't released yet. Just stop lieing. Even after the rules are released leagues can add amendments whenever they want.

Stop man. The decision is done. Every league (excepting MLSN) will run standard SY 8/1-7/31 as suggested. There are no amendments to that and there will be none. Just like how there are none now.

Why not stop making these arguments now and just wait for the 'rules' to come out so you can wave all of the August grade rules in everyone's faces? That will feel great won't it? So please, just stop until then.

Oh how I wish he would listen to this post because that would mean a high likelihood of never hearing from him again.

But this may be his only social outlet so very doubtful he ever stops posting.

But at least he is no longer telling everyone how wrong they are about GA moving to SY😂

For now keep lobbying DCUM for no more anonymous posters or a mute button based on IP. Or at least publish the IP.

DCUM deals with trolls like you that camp on threads all day long. I wouldn't be surprised if you got banned and the thread just stopped.

You're now trying to dox people because your campaign for GY isnt working.

Not doxing just stopping your incessant noise by making you own your posts and all your multiple personalities. I would still post if we did away with anonymous posters…………very much doubt you or your Sybil tendencies would………..

You still have that mirror?

You are literally accusing others of the things you do.

Can you tell us who you like in the Commanders game tonight? Given your track record, want to bet the opposite. I think it is a foolproof plan.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

This is already happening? The ECNL showcase this weekend is up to U15 which are the non recruited age groups.
I like the idea of getting away from showcases and adding cups with strong RL teams is smart because that will attract more players to RL.

This won’t be a big change and aligning kids within their same grade U16 and up for showcases to me isn’t a big deal as showcases are meant for recruiting.

I don’t think clubs should or will force players up for league play as they want to be competitive and show how strong their teams are. Kids can always play up if they are capable and willing.

As long as results from showcases don’t matter I completely agree.

They do in ECNL not sure about GA

They do this year. It should be obvious but that would have to change if they were going to use GY for showcases sophomore year and up next year.

Nothing would change for league play, it would still be 8/1-7/31.

I find it hard to believe people would care a ton about exhibition showcases but my kids are aligned so I don't care much either way.

I highly doubt this would work.

Currently theres 3 levels at showcases. Mixing everyone together on the same teams would be 1/3 the amount of games. Assuming they stuck with the one game per day rule.

On top of that Sophmores would get screwed out of their recruitment opportunity when they're the players colleges coaches want to see the most.

I’m not understanding this.. please explain how sophomores are losing out.
I really don’t understand so break it down for me. Please and thank you.

It all depends on how GY showcases are defined. If its purely by grade only what will happen is parents will hold their kid back in school usually up to 2x. This will make them an 18 year old Sophmore. In league games they'd need to play on the u18/u19 team but at showcases they could play on the Sophmore u16 and u17 team.

Do you want holdbacks that are 2 years older than your kid playing with /against them at showcases?

That’s who you are competing with for college spots.

League games are for competition first with some recruiting. Showcases are for recruiting only. They are not the same.

Parents when people tell you who they are listen to them.

The people that dont want a SY 8/1-7/31 rule that younger players play on a team with their grade. Don't want this because they know it will kill GY and players playing 1-2 years down on ECNL teams. They want club soccer to be like HS Soccer.

How is a 2010 player playing 2011 or 2012 in ECNL today?

They want ECNL to adopt the MLS biobanding bullshit, so they can play down to cheat.

Do some reading on Relative Age Effect and biobanding in how it's been used for many years in Europe effectively

Only in the true Academy teams, not in P2P clubs. ECNL leadership is very firm on not letting biobanding slip in.

Instead of biobanding ECNL uses the term "u18/u19" also many of the parents on this thread think ECNL will use "GY at Showcases".

Apparently playing down is good when we do it. But everyone else is a cheater.

This is how GY sneaks into youth sports. Generally some sob story edge case is used as the justification. Once implemented real players exploit the rule and sob story edge case never sees the field.

Instead of all the shell games just add a rule to SY 8/1-7/31 that says younger players must play on the team thats their grade in school.

If you do this parents wont be able to push for GY any more because all players on the field at games will be the same grade. Also no player will be older than 8/1 that grade/year. The GY parents that want to play their 1 or 2 year holdbacks down on your kids team wont matter and nobody will listen to them because the players on each team are all already the same grade.

Nobody cares about GY and nobody cares about your weird August vendetta. It is just you and your personas.

I care, and I think its a very good idea. You seem like the only one with a vendetta. Might want to update your responses because it looks like your arch enemy expanded scope by not calling out Aug in reference to younger players.

You are the same person. No one cares. Move on. It is great you think it is good idea but the rules are already set and done. If you feel this passionately about it, go lobby your local club to put in place your weird August grade rules. I'm sure they will be all over it.

You've received a copy of the 2026/27 league rules? You know the one leagues haven't released yet. Just stop lieing. Even after the rules are released leagues can add amendments whenever they want.

Stop man. The decision is done. Every league (excepting MLSN) will run standard SY 8/1-7/31 as suggested. There are no amendments to that and there will be none. Just like how there are none now.

Why not stop making these arguments now and just wait for the 'rules' to come out so you can wave all of the August grade rules in everyone's faces? That will feel great won't it? So please, just stop until then.

Oh how I wish he would listen to this post because that would mean a high likelihood of never hearing from him again.

But this may be his only social outlet so very doubtful he ever stops posting.

But at least he is no longer telling everyone how wrong they are about GA moving to SY😂

For now keep lobbying DCUM for no more anonymous posters or a mute button based on IP. Or at least publish the IP.

DCUM deals with trolls like you that camp on threads all day long. I wouldn't be surprised if you got banned and the thread just stopped.

You're now trying to dox people because your campaign for GY isnt working.

Not doxing just stopping your incessant noise by making you own your posts and all your multiple personalities. I would still post if we did away with anonymous posters…………very much doubt you or your Sybil tendencies would………..

You still have that mirror?

You are literally accusing others of the things you do.

Can you tell us who you like in the Commanders game tonight? Given your track record, want to bet the opposite. I think it is a foolproof plan.

Dont like the Commies

[Anonymous]

I thought leagues had flexibility and some were still doing 9/1 - 8/31. Is that not the case? Asking about Northern VA leagues.

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

[Anonymous]

Yes leagues can choose 9/31-8/31 if they want to US Soccer is letting Leagues choose what works best for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought leagues had flexibility and some were still doing 9/1 - 8/31. Is that not the case? Asking about Northern VA leagues.

Switched this summer ...

US Club announcement: https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/

USYS: https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/2025/06/10/updated-decision-on-age-group-formation/

GA (more recently announced): https://girlsacademyleague.com/2025/09/girls-academy-to-adopt-seasonal-year-age-group-formation-beginning-in-2026-2027/

[Anonymous]

Speaking of Northern VA, can anyone confirm what NCSL, ECNL, ECNL-RL, and MLS Next 2 are doing in this area in terms of cutoff dates?

[Anonymous]

Aug 1

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Anonymous wrote:I thought leagues had flexibility and some were still doing 9/1 - 8/31. Is that not the case? Asking about Northern VA leagues.

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

Flexibility yes, but all big umbrella organizations said 8/1. Any really small organization can and already has set their own dates.

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Anonymous wrote:So talking with a friend of mine at the ECNL showcase this weekend. Also I’ll say he told me last summer at surf cup about the age change that was coming and has some very reliable people that he knows. Here is the info I got. It sounds like the Aug hater might get their way and kids will play within their grade within the new 12 month window.
Well sort of…

According to him ECNL is most likely breaking into 3 different groups. Youngers U10-12 and U13-15 and older recruiting ages U16,17,19.
U10-15 will no longer play showcases but will have various cups throughout the year with divisions and tournament champions. Strong RL teams will be invited to these as well.

U10-15 will be based only off the Aug to July 12 month window. However U16/17 will be based off players grades between that 12 month window. So some kids will be pushed up for showcases so they will play against kids within their same grade. League play is still tbd. He didn’t know for sure.
U19 will be for any player who is a senior in high school, age will not matter as long as they are under 19 at the start their club season.

He also has more questions than answers at this point but this is what’s being discussed by ECNL/US Club admin team.

This is already happening? The ECNL showcase this weekend is up to U15 which are the non recruited age groups.
I like the idea of getting away from showcases and adding cups with strong RL teams is smart because that will attract more players to RL.

This won’t be a big change and aligning kids within their same grade U16 and up for showcases to me isn’t a big deal as showcases are meant for recruiting.

I don’t think clubs should or will force players up for league play as they want to be competitive and show how strong their teams are. Kids can always play up if they are capable and willing.

As long as results from showcases don’t matter I completely agree.

They do in ECNL not sure about GA

They do this year. It should be obvious but that would have to change if they were going to use GY for showcases sophomore year and up next year.

Nothing would change for league play, it would still be 8/1-7/31.

I find it hard to believe people would care a ton about exhibition showcases but my kids are aligned so I don't care much either way.

I highly doubt this would work.

Currently theres 3 levels at showcases. Mixing everyone together on the same teams would be 1/3 the amount of games. Assuming they stuck with the one game per day rule.

On top of that Sophmores would get screwed out of their recruitment opportunity when they're the players colleges coaches want to see the most.

I’m not understanding this.. please explain how sophomores are losing out.
I really don’t understand so break it down for me. Please and thank you.

It all depends on how GY showcases are defined. If its purely by grade only what will happen is parents will hold their kid back in school usually up to 2x. This will make them an 18 year old Sophmore. In league games they'd need to play on the u18/u19 team but at showcases they could play on the Sophmore u16 and u17 team.

Do you want holdbacks that are 2 years older than your kid playing with /against them at showcases?

That’s who you are competing with for college spots.

League games are for competition first with some recruiting. Showcases are for recruiting only. They are not the same.

Parents when people tell you who they are listen to them.

The people that dont want a SY 8/1-7/31 rule that younger players play on a team with their grade. Don't want this because they know it will kill GY and players playing 1-2 years down on ECNL teams. They want club soccer to be like HS Soccer.

How is a 2010 player playing 2011 or 2012 in ECNL today?

They want ECNL to adopt the MLS biobanding bullshit, so they can play down to cheat.

Do some reading on Relative Age Effect and biobanding in how it's been used for many years in Europe effectively

Only in the true Academy teams, not in P2P clubs. ECNL leadership is very firm on not letting biobanding slip in.

Instead of biobanding ECNL uses the term "u18/u19" also many of the parents on this thread think ECNL will use "GY at Showcases".

Apparently playing down is good when we do it. But everyone else is a cheater.

This is how GY sneaks into youth sports. Generally some sob story edge case is used as the justification. Once implemented real players exploit the rule and sob story edge case never sees the field.

Instead of all the shell games just add a rule to SY 8/1-7/31 that says younger players must play on the team thats their grade in school.

If you do this parents wont be able to push for GY any more because all players on the field at games will be the same grade. Also no player will be older than 8/1 that grade/year. The GY parents that want to play their 1 or 2 year holdbacks down on your kids team wont matter and nobody will listen to them because the players on each team are all already the same grade.

Nobody cares about GY and nobody cares about your weird August vendetta. It is just you and your personas.

I care, and I think its a very good idea. You seem like the only one with a vendetta. Might want to update your responses because it looks like your arch enemy expanded scope by not calling out Aug in reference to younger players.

You are the same person. No one cares. Move on. It is great you think it is good idea but the rules are already set and done. If you feel this passionately about it, go lobby your local club to put in place your weird August grade rules. I'm sure they will be all over it.

You've received a copy of the 2026/27 league rules? You know the one leagues haven't released yet. Just stop lieing. Even after the rules are released leagues can add amendments whenever they want.

Stop man. The decision is done. Every league (excepting MLSN) will run standard SY 8/1-7/31 as suggested. There are no amendments to that and there will be none. Just like how there are none now.

Why not stop making these arguments now and just wait for the 'rules' to come out so you can wave all of the August grade rules in everyone's faces? That will feel great won't it? So please, just stop until then.

Oh how I wish he would listen to this post because that would mean a high likelihood of never hearing from him again.

But this may be his only social outlet so very doubtful he ever stops posting.

But at least he is no longer telling everyone how wrong they are about GA moving to SY😂

For now keep lobbying DCUM for no more anonymous posters or a mute button based on IP. Or at least publish the IP.

DCUM deals with trolls like you that camp on threads all day long. I wouldn't be surprised if you got banned and the thread just stopped.

You're now trying to dox people because your campaign for GY isnt working.

Not doxing just stopping your incessant noise by making you own your posts and all your multiple personalities. I would still post if we did away with anonymous posters…………very much doubt you or your Sybil tendencies would………..

You still have that mirror?

You are literally accusing others of the things you do.

Can you tell us who you like in the Commanders game tonight? Given your track record, want to bet the opposite. I think it is a foolproof plan.

They better win! WFT fan in Philly here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

50 pages is a vast underestimate

lo siento! I made a rough estimate, but as a non frequent poster here - everyone is upset with this one troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

50 pages is a vast underestimate

lo siento! I made a rough estimate, but as a non frequent poster here - everyone is upset with this one troll.

Agreed, the troll that keeps trying to push for GY at showcases gets old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

50 pages is a vast underestimate

lo siento! I made a rough estimate, but as a non frequent poster here - everyone is upset with this one troll.

Agreed, the troll that keeps trying to push for GY at showcases gets old.

Makes sense the August hater troll wants GY showcases. They want everything based on grades it seems in a backdoor way. So tough to follow their backward logic that just pushes their agenda.

They have spit out the same garbage and so many have told them they don't buy it. Have no idea what they are trying to prove. Can only guess that they are hoping to find one like soul. It hadn't happened yet. Like they are drowning and trying to drag everyone else down with them with their non stop pushing of an idea nobody else wants. You would think they would adjust their hair brained scheme to get some buy in, but nope, same garbage over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

50 pages is a vast underestimate

lo siento! I made a rough estimate, but as a non frequent poster here - everyone is upset with this one troll.

Agreed, the troll that keeps trying to push for GY at showcases gets old.

Makes sense the August hater troll wants GY showcases. They want everything based on grades it seems in a backdoor way. So tough to follow their backward logic that just pushes their agenda.

They have spit out the same garbage and so many have told them they don't buy it. Have no idea what they are trying to prove. Can only guess that they are hoping to find one like soul. It hadn't happened yet. Like they are drowning and trying to drag everyone else down with them with their non stop pushing of an idea nobody else wants. You would think they would adjust their hare brained scheme to get some buy in, but nope, same garbage over and over.

Well the rumor is ECNL will be grad year showcases for U16-19. So no more U anything will just be what grade players are in. So they will get what they are asking for but on steroids.

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone needs/wants/(should) skip the last 50 pages. The date is 8/1-7/31. There are no exceptions. Anything else posted is pure speculation mainly by 1 poster who for some reason thinks arguing here matters.

Still waiting on official announcement from MLS, but everyone else is on the new date.

50 pages is a vast underestimate

lo siento! I made a rough estimate, but as a non frequent poster here - everyone is upset with this one troll.

Agreed, the troll that keeps trying to push for GY at showcases gets old.

Makes sense the August hater troll wants GY showcases. They want everything based on grades it seems in a backdoor way. So tough to follow their backward logic that just pushes their agenda.

They have spit out the same garbage and so many have told them they don't buy it. Have no idea what they are trying to prove. Can only guess that they are hoping to find one like soul. It hadn't happened yet. Like they are drowning and trying to drag everyone else down with them with their non stop pushing of an idea nobody else wants. You would think they would adjust their hair brained scheme to get some buy in, but nope, same garbage over and over.

The person pushing for a rule that younger players must play with their grade seems to be 100% against older players playing down.

The troll is the one that thinks they know everything and keeps bringing up GY at showcases. With players as young as sophomores in HS. Basically he wants Sophmore parents to pay for everything so his kid whos a holdback can play on their team at showcases in front of recruiters.

[Anonymous]

None of this is more trolling than this ... Da Bears!