Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Something seems fishy to me when the flood of negative Instagram comments on Lively's hair launch or whatever involved user accounts that had no followers or no prior posts.

I think Wallace flooded social media with negative commentary about Lively, in the same way Heard was flooded, and that it generally turned public opinion against Lively in the same way it worked for Heard. Both of these women had negative personality traits that could easily be used against them, both had stuff out there that could be posted and made fun of. Abel was out there doing some of this work on her own, i.e., having "our digital side boost this [TikTok of some woman defending Baldoni] in the am." So they were boosting stories and pumping negatives at Lively. Meanwhile Abel was also saying they were using far more sophisticated techniques on social media than just using bots.

I also saw the complaint alleges at paras. 280-81 that Lively or her PR rep were checking in with each other and making sure they weren't doing the same against Baldoni & co. at some point - i.e., making sure they were not retaliating/planting stories so that they would have clean hands when the time came etc. So basically the flood of negatives coming from Abel/Wallace and co. were undefended, and maybe in some ways still are because of the lawsuit. And after a certain point, it doesn't matter, because everyone has read all the negative stuff and believes it, and believes that's what defines the case.

I think a lot will depend on what discovery is obtained from Wallace. Precisely what was he doing to earn the $75-$175K that he proposed to be paid for this work, and how much was he ultimately paid etc?

I don't think Sarowitz comes off well.

Nah, Blair is very very good at making the public hate her all on her own.

Doesn’t seem to be what happened here from the events described in the complaint, and clearly Wallace was doing *something*. It will depend on discovery imho.

I know you are afraid of TikTok, but if you spent some time on there, you might get a sense of how much of the Blake hate is indeed related to her own actions.

This is a woman who alleges Justin is responsible for damage to her reputation in 2025 and then, all on her own, went on a nationally televised show just this past weekend, and let this very lawsuit be the butt of a joke. Absolutely no self awareness, none.

And sat through the entire SNL show where she was mocked in various skits. Did she even notice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

Because the majority of her claims do not describe sexual harassment but annoying behavior. And this type of behavior could be attributed to someone being awkward and impulsive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The judge quashed the subpoenas, at least on a temporary basis. Has anyone seen the order?

That’s a weird take on the text of the order as I see it. The judge ordered the parties to meet and confer and requires Lively not to move to enforce the subpoenas while the parties confer. Which is what Lively was asking for in their letter. So, yeah, this board is so odd.

“The parties are directed to meet and confer and report back to the Court by Monday, February 24, 2025, whether the Court can deny the motion as moot or whether any dispute remains for the Courts decision. The Lively parties shall not move to enforce the subpoenas while the motion is pending. (HEREBY ORDERED by Judge Lewis J. Liman)(Text Only Order.”

Not enforcible means quashed. Don’t play dumb.

It doesn't though. The subpoenas are in limbo pending the parties engaging in further discussion (which is what Lively's lawyers specifically asked for). The motion to quash is still pending and the judge hopes that he can deny the motion to quash as moot when the parties come to an agreement as to how the subpoenas will be carried out.

You seem to think this decision means the subpoenas aren't going to happen but it actually means they probably are going to happen, with some parameters as agree to by the parties.

Baldoni's lawyers also should probably be careful here because the wording of the decision emphasizes the importance of the meet and confer. If they don't engage in good faith with an effort to reach a compromise on the subpoenas, the judge might just deny the motion nd let the subpoenas proceed in their broadest form.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

Because the majority of her claims do not describe sexual harassment but annoying behavior. And this type of behavior could be attributed to someone being awkward and impulsive.

I am a neurodivergent person and so is my daughter, and have never heard of neurodivergence being the reason someone pressured an actress to do a scene nude despite it not being scripted that way and despite not having a intimacy coordinator on set. That's a new one!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Something seems fishy to me when the flood of negative Instagram comments on Lively's hair launch or whatever involved user accounts that had no followers or no prior posts.

I think Wallace flooded social media with negative commentary about Lively, in the same way Heard was flooded, and that it generally turned public opinion against Lively in the same way it worked for Heard. Both of these women had negative personality traits that could easily be used against them, both had stuff out there that could be posted and made fun of. Abel was out there doing some of this work on her own, i.e., having "our digital side boost this [TikTok of some woman defending Baldoni] in the am." So they were boosting stories and pumping negatives at Lively. Meanwhile Abel was also saying they were using far more sophisticated techniques on social media than just using bots.

I also saw the complaint alleges at paras. 280-81 that Lively or her PR rep were checking in with each other and making sure they weren't doing the same against Baldoni & co. at some point - i.e., making sure they were not retaliating/planting stories so that they would have clean hands when the time came etc. So basically the flood of negatives coming from Abel/Wallace and co. were undefended, and maybe in some ways still are because of the lawsuit. And after a certain point, it doesn't matter, because everyone has read all the negative stuff and believes it, and believes that's what defines the case.

I think a lot will depend on what discovery is obtained from Wallace. Precisely what was he doing to earn the $75-$175K that he proposed to be paid for this work, and how much was he ultimately paid etc?

I don't think Sarowitz comes off well.

Nah, Blair is very very good at making the public hate her all on her own.

Doesn’t seem to be what happened here from the events described in the complaint, and clearly Wallace was doing *something*. It will depend on discovery imho.

Yes, but I find the Complaint overwrought and not persuasive in the least.

In fact, as a lawyer, I am wondering if Blake and Ryan insisted that they draft parts of the Complaint. Either that or her lawyers hate her too.

I’m a lawyer and I don’t get that impression at all. What paragraphs do you think Lively or Reynolds’s drafted?

NP, but I would guess the opening quote.

If we're being technical, the opening quote was drafted by Justin Baldoni.

[Anonymous]

Agree it's not quashed. I think it should be if not substantially revised. The motion was still the right move because at least now they can’t be enforced, which is much better than promising not to peek.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

Because the majority of her claims do not describe sexual harassment but annoying behavior. And this type of behavior could be attributed to someone being awkward and impulsive.

I am a neurodivergent person and so is my daughter, and have never heard of neurodivergence being the reason someone pressured an actress to do a scene nude despite it not being scripted that way and despite not having a intimacy coordinator on set. That's a new one!

Okay, she wasn’t nude. She actually wasn’t giving birth, contrary to what you may be led to believe, as this was a film. She also consciously neglected to meet with the IC. She is The Blake Lively, what Blake wants, Blake gets. Why didn’t The Blake lively speak up if she didn’t like faking giving birth?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something seems fishy to me when the flood of negative Instagram comments on Lively's hair launch or whatever involved user accounts that had no followers or no prior posts.

I think Wallace flooded social media with negative commentary about Lively, in the same way Heard was flooded, and that it generally turned public opinion against Lively in the same way it worked for Heard. Both of these women had negative personality traits that could easily be used against them, both had stuff out there that could be posted and made fun of. Abel was out there doing some of this work on her own, i.e., having "our digital side boost this [TikTok of some woman defending Baldoni] in the am." So they were boosting stories and pumping negatives at Lively. Meanwhile Abel was also saying they were using far more sophisticated techniques on social media than just using bots.

I also saw the complaint alleges at paras. 280-81 that Lively or her PR rep were checking in with each other and making sure they weren't doing the same against Baldoni & co. at some point - i.e., making sure they were not retaliating/planting stories so that they would have clean hands when the time came etc. So basically the flood of negatives coming from Abel/Wallace and co. were undefended, and maybe in some ways still are because of the lawsuit. And after a certain point, it doesn't matter, because everyone has read all the negative stuff and believes it, and believes that's what defines the case.

I think a lot will depend on what discovery is obtained from Wallace. Precisely what was he doing to earn the $75-$175K that he proposed to be paid for this work, and how much was he ultimately paid etc?

I don't think Sarowitz comes off well.

Nah, Blair is very very good at making the public hate her all on her own.

Doesn’t seem to be what happened here from the events described in the complaint, and clearly Wallace was doing *something*. It will depend on discovery imho.

I know you are afraid of TikTok, but if you spent some time on there, you might get a sense of how much of the Blake hate is indeed related to her own actions.

This is a woman who alleges Justin is responsible for damage to her reputation in 2025 and then, all on her own, went on a nationally televised show just this past weekend, and let this very lawsuit be the butt of a joke. Absolutely no self awareness, none.

And sat through the entire SNL show where she was mocked in various skits. Did she even notice?

It also doesn’t help that RR made jokes about baby weight in n Deadpool, which I thought people on here were really stretching that it had to do with BL until the clip someone posted where BL being interviewed and says she 100% is inspiration for Ladypool. So like the SNL bit, another where won’t help to say JB made her feel judged about weight so het husband wrote it in as jokes for Deadpool to make $ off her feeling bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

I don't think it proves anything especially considering she was already trashing him during the shoot. If anything it shows he was about to defend himself, not attack.

Except there are plenty of texts about him wanting to attack?

To me it's defense and not attack because there was so much she said during the shoot (including new texts she released and her own texts to him) that showed she was hostile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

I don't think it proves anything especially considering she was already trashing him during the shoot. If anything it shows he was about to defend himself, not attack.

Except there are plenty of texts about him wanting to attack?

To me it's defense and not attack because there was so much she said during the shoot (including new texts she released and her own texts to him) that showed she was hostile.

You don't even seem to have read the complaints as Baldoni himself referred to it as an offensive move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all the pro Justin people - why do you think he suggested to the PR team early on that he should go on a tv show and talk about his neuro divergence and how his brain works differenlty and how the accusations could be explained by social awkwardness and impulsive speech?

Because the majority of her claims do not describe sexual harassment but annoying behavior. And this type of behavior could be attributed to someone being awkward and impulsive.

I am a neurodivergent person and so is my daughter, and have never heard of neurodivergence being the reason someone pressured an actress to do a scene nude despite it not being scripted that way and despite not having a intimacy coordinator on set. That's a new one!

Okay, she wasn’t nude. She actually wasn’t giving birth, contrary to what you may be led to believe, as this was a film. She also consciously neglected to meet with the IC. She is The Blake Lively, what Blake wants, Blake gets. Why didn’t The Blake lively speak up if she didn’t like faking giving birth?

She was only not nude because she DID speak up. And she was still wearing less clothing than she requested to wear -- she assumed she would be clothed on the bottom as actresses typically are during birth scenes, which usually do not focus the camera anywhere close to an actor's private parts and instead focuses on faces and upper bodies. And even after she'd agreed to do the scene with less clothing and already filmed it, Baldoni and Heath still tracked her down on set the next day to try and show her a video of Heath's wife giving birth nude because... they are neurodivergent I guess?

This is more than "annoying" behavior. It's sexual harassment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blake Lively is now claiming her children are traumatized by this and struggles to leave home.

Right after the SNL appearance? Ok.

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something seems fishy to me when the flood of negative Instagram comments on Lively's hair launch or whatever involved user accounts that had no followers or no prior posts.

I think Wallace flooded social media with negative commentary about Lively, in the same way Heard was flooded, and that it generally turned public opinion against Lively in the same way it worked for Heard. Both of these women had negative personality traits that could easily be used against them, both had stuff out there that could be posted and made fun of. Abel was out there doing some of this work on her own, i.e., having "our digital side boost this [TikTok of some woman defending Baldoni] in the am." So they were boosting stories and pumping negatives at Lively. Meanwhile Abel was also saying they were using far more sophisticated techniques on social media than just using bots.

I also saw the complaint alleges at paras. 280-81 that Lively or her PR rep were checking in with each other and making sure they weren't doing the same against Baldoni & co. at some point - i.e., making sure they were not retaliating/planting stories so that they would have clean hands when the time came etc. So basically the flood of negatives coming from Abel/Wallace and co. were undefended, and maybe in some ways still are because of the lawsuit. And after a certain point, it doesn't matter, because everyone has read all the negative stuff and believes it, and believes that's what defines the case.

I think a lot will depend on what discovery is obtained from Wallace. Precisely what was he doing to earn the $75-$175K that he proposed to be paid for this work, and how much was he ultimately paid etc?

I don't think Sarowitz comes off well.

Nah, Blair is very very good at making the public hate her all on her own.

Doesn’t seem to be what happened here from the events described in the complaint, and clearly Wallace was doing *something*. It will depend on discovery imho.

I know you are afraid of TikTok, but if you spent some time on there, you might get a sense of how much of the Blake hate is indeed related to her own actions.

This is a woman who alleges Justin is responsible for damage to her reputation in 2025 and then, all on her own, went on a nationally televised show just this past weekend, and let this very lawsuit be the butt of a joke. Absolutely no self awareness, none.

And sat through the entire SNL show where she was mocked in various skits. Did she even notice?

It also doesn’t help that RR made jokes about baby weight in n Deadpool, which I thought people on here were really stretching that it had to do with BL until the clip someone posted where BL being interviewed and says she 100% is inspiration for Ladypool. So like the SNL bit, another where won’t help to say JB made her feel judged about weight so het husband wrote it in as jokes for Deadpool to make $ off her feeling bad.

What? We don’t need a quote from Blake from an interview confirming that lady pool is based on her. She literally plays lady pool in the film. She is credited as lady pool, she is in the movie as lady pool, and she came to the premier dressed as ladypool. It’s not speculation.

The speculation people are having is, is nice pool based on Justin, and overwhelmingly it is. The man bum, the jokes about feminism, and him getting his head blown off in front of a flower shop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something seems fishy to me when the flood of negative Instagram comments on Lively's hair launch or whatever involved user accounts that had no followers or no prior posts.

I think Wallace flooded social media with negative commentary about Lively, in the same way Heard was flooded, and that it generally turned public opinion against Lively in the same way it worked for Heard. Both of these women had negative personality traits that could easily be used against them, both had stuff out there that could be posted and made fun of. Abel was out there doing some of this work on her own, i.e., having "our digital side boost this [TikTok of some woman defending Baldoni] in the am." So they were boosting stories and pumping negatives at Lively. Meanwhile Abel was also saying they were using far more sophisticated techniques on social media than just using bots.

I also saw the complaint alleges at paras. 280-81 that Lively or her PR rep were checking in with each other and making sure they weren't doing the same against Baldoni & co. at some point - i.e., making sure they were not retaliating/planting stories so that they would have clean hands when the time came etc. So basically the flood of negatives coming from Abel/Wallace and co. were undefended, and maybe in some ways still are because of the lawsuit. And after a certain point, it doesn't matter, because everyone has read all the negative stuff and believes it, and believes that's what defines the case.

I think a lot will depend on what discovery is obtained from Wallace. Precisely what was he doing to earn the $75-$175K that he proposed to be paid for this work, and how much was he ultimately paid etc?

I don't think Sarowitz comes off well.

Nah, Blair is very very good at making the public hate her all on her own.

Doesn’t seem to be what happened here from the events described in the complaint, and clearly Wallace was doing *something*. It will depend on discovery imho.

I know you are afraid of TikTok, but if you spent some time on there, you might get a sense of how much of the Blake hate is indeed related to her own actions.

This is a woman who alleges Justin is responsible for damage to her reputation in 2025 and then, all on her own, went on a nationally televised show just this past weekend, and let this very lawsuit be the butt of a joke. Absolutely no self awareness, none.

And sat through the entire SNL show where she was mocked in various skits. Did she even notice?

It also doesn’t help that RR made jokes about baby weight in n Deadpool, which I thought people on here were really stretching that it had to do with BL until the clip someone posted where BL being interviewed and says she 100% is inspiration for Ladypool. So like the SNL bit, another where won’t help to say JB made her feel judged about weight so het husband wrote it in as jokes for Deadpool to make $ off her feeling bad.

The butt of the joke about baby weight in Deadpool is not Ladypool. It's Nicepool, the annoying male feminist who comments on Ladypool's body after having a baby and then says he's allowed to do that because he's "a male feminist." The butt of the joke is Baldoni and people like him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the only board I have seen that has such a staunch pro Justin position that he did nothing wrong and that all of this was solely a plot from Blake from before the movie even began to steal the movie.

Lots of boards have far more nuanced discussions and its curious that this one is almost entirely pro Justin with vicious attacks at Blake and at anyone who says anything that isn't pro Justin.

Then hang out on those boards, if preferred. We call it like we see it.