ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

So fyi, Sept to Dec is 4 months. And it will probably be Aug-July, so the missing U 15 will be 5 months, maybe they take em from U14, may not. Go back and reread what I wrote and what you wrote are the same thing but you think 9-1 to 12-31 is 3 months and you think they are going to start in Sept and I think they are going back to Aug. Pay better attention.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 7th grade and will be trapped next year while her team is in high school. Does this mean she still is trapped next year if they keep High School ages together?

No, as long as she was born between August and December of 2011 next year - she will be given the opportunity to play with U14s again. If she chooses to play U15 and the club lets her essentially "play up", she is trapped by her decision to do so.

Thank you for the clarification!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 7th grade and will be trapped next year while her team is in high school. Does this mean she still is trapped next year if they keep High School ages together?

No, as long as she was born between August and December of 2011 next year - she will be given the opportunity to play with U14s again. If she chooses to play U15 and the club lets her essentially "play up", she is trapped by her decision to do so.

Wait so does this mean that U15 will only have players on age from Jan to July? Just 7 months. I understand that this would be odd and messy.

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

Ouch, Q2 is now the youngest. Best of luck.

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

Ouch, Q2 is now the youngest. Best of luck.

If the cutoff is 9/1. Isn't most of Q3 the youngest?

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

Ouch, Q2 is now the youngest. Best of luck.

If the cutoff is 9/1. Isn't most of Q3 the youngest?

I can't math disregard

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

Ouch, Q2 is now the youngest. Best of luck.

If the cutoff is 9/1. Isn't most of Q3 the youngest?

Expect 8-1, be surprised with 9-1.

[Anonymous]

Can whoever broke that down 9/1 to 8/31 break it down even further for the seasoned soccer parent that is having a blonde moment? Where did all that info come from? The US Soccer TBD chart?

[Anonymous]

Its going to be same date flat across the board to give clubs flexibility and to improve teams.

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Considering younger group will transit to SY, by keeping the older group to stay in BY is very unfair to the HS trapped players for the recruiting.

[Anonymous]

It's just another rumor - albeit a new one

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Anonymous wrote:And from what I understand from one of our club directors, the breakdown by age group like this is intentional. Those age groups already at high school age (U15 and above) are likely to maintain the birth year status as opposed to school year based on birth. In other words, if your kid is 14 or above now, club soccer groups will not change for him or her.

I don't have any inside knowledge but creating an age group for one year of kids that is only 7 months seems odd. Of course kids could play up but then that thins out the year below them also. Will be messy.

You don't understand, so I guess I will spell it out. U14 and below will now read 9/1 to 8/31. U 16 and above will be 1/1 to 12/31. U15 is the undecided but likely to give flexibility to those in that 3 month grey zone. Probably going to expand the age group to 15 months and let clubs play kids with U14 or U15 to avoid the trap player situation for the first year. Those details are probably TBD. But those at high school age already are not going to see their age groups broken up for 25-26.

I'm not sure how you would have this information. But if this was true, would this be a grandfathering situation or would that remain for the older ages.

Yes and yes. Grandfathering situation but for high school ages only right now. Rationale is that they are already in the recruiting process and there is no perceived upside since trapped player is no longer a thing for them. Club directors received an explanation email. At least some did.

Sounds like someone has a 9 or 10th grader who is a Q1 kid.

PP here. Nope. Mine is a quarter 2 kid. Don't understand why all of you are looking to be the oldest in your age group? Find the right coach, team, and environment. The rest will sort itself out. Everyone is going to be OK...they really are.

Ouch, Q2 is now the youngest. Best of luck.

If the cutoff is 9/1. Isn't most of Q3 the youngest?

Expect 8-1, be surprised with 9-1.

Why? If they did 9/1 you’d catch significantly more kids (all the August kids w/ school cut offs with 8/1- 9/1) who would otherwise be playing below their grade. With 9/1 that’s almost a nonissue. 8/1 will be a huge headache (in terms of unhappy kids and parents) that can easily be avoided.

What might be one benefit be of 8/1 that 9/1 can’t provide?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just another rumor - albeit a new one

In another forum (SoCal) which had some info posted that ended up being true. They also said they heard there was a possibility this age group change was not going to affect the older teams.