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DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

I'm the PP to whom your are responding. I intended it as a rhetorical question because I already knew the answer. You are correct. I did some research--for example, comparing Langley to Herndon. Little difference except for languages offered. Even Chantilly, which is much, much larger than either of those does not offer more language classes.

I did not check all schools, but, since it seems to be mentioned so much on this forum, I did do a comparison of Langley/Herndon. Now, there may be more sessions of the classes offered, but the offerings seem similar.

[Anonymous]

It’s good to know some consider the inequities so tolerable.

[Anonymous]

FCPS decided to close Clifton ES for no valid reasons. Kids were sent to mediocre schools chosen by FCPS. So, there’s an abandoned school on a beautiful hill waiting for a new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS decided to close Clifton ES for no valid reasons. Kids were sent to mediocre schools chosen by FCPS. So, there’s an abandoned school on a beautiful hill waiting for a new school.

Other schools that feed to Robinson are “mediocre”? Was not aware of that.

Anyway, are you suggesting they could build a new HS in Clifton rather than Herndon? That’s not close to Chantilly, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s good to know some consider the inequities so tolerable.

I guess I don’t know if I see that much inequity from school to school. Yes, some have better educated students but that isn’t because of what the schools do or don’t offer. Children are being “educated” every moment they live and breathe because that is what it means to have such an impressionable and plastic brain. Parents are a kid’s first teachers and they act as life-long teachers. Children from families whose parents don’t have the time, resources, skills, or knowledge to teach them are almost always going to be “behind.” They haven’t had the kind of “private tutoring” that their more fortunate peers have from their parents. Classroom teachers can’t substitute or compensate for that lack given their workload and the number of children they are responsible for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

So why don't more students sign up for classes in their current schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

I'm the PP to whom your are responding. I intended it as a rhetorical question because I already knew the answer. You are correct. I did some research--for example, comparing Langley to Herndon. Little difference except for languages offered. Even Chantilly, which is much, much larger than either of those does not offer more language classes.

I did not check all schools, but, since it seems to be mentioned so much on this forum, I did do a comparison of Langley/Herndon. Now, there may be more sessions of the classes offered, but the offerings seem similar.

Keep in mind, they may say a certain class is "offered" but if only 15 students sign up, it will not happen that year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

So why don't more students sign up for classes in their current schools?

Some schools have fewer students than others. Obviously FCPS favors Langley when they expand the school to accommodate almost 2400 kids when it's one of the most under-enrolled schools in the least convenient locations in the county, and then starts moving kids there to fill seats that should have been built elsewhere.

And if you're asking why more students at poorer schools aren't signing up for the classes that have multiple sessions at Langley, it's a function of the education the kids are getting before they arrive as freshmen at Langley. But it creates a vicious cycle where parents of higher-achieving kids hear that their kids may not be able to arrange their class schedules at other schools to get into the classes they'd like to take, and so they move into certain pyramids where that's less likely to be a barrier.

The privilege hoarding in FCPS, especially in one pyramid, is very real.

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The privilege hoarding in FCPS, especially in one pyramid, is very real.

Please. My DD went to the very largest high schools. Two of the classes she signed up for turned out to be singletons. They were taught at the same time She had to make a choice. It happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS decided to close Clifton ES for no valid reasons. Kids were sent to mediocre schools chosen by FCPS. So, there’s an abandoned school on a beautiful hill waiting for a new school.

Other schools that feed to Robinson are “mediocre”? Was not aware of that.

Anyway, are you suggesting they could build a new HS in Clifton rather than Herndon? That’s not close to Chantilly, either.

Where the school is in Clifton is actually close to Chantilly. It even shares the same road as Chantilly HS. Also not all the kids that would have gone to Clifton ES now still get to go to Robinson. We are just on are on the other side of the boundary and ended up in Fairfax Pyramid. While our ES school Willow Springs is fine, our middle school Katherine Johnson is not. And we're going to have to go to Fairfax HS which is so much further away than 3 other HS that are nearby including Robinson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS decided to close Clifton ES for no valid reasons. Kids were sent to mediocre schools chosen by FCPS. So, there’s an abandoned school on a beautiful hill waiting for a new school.

Other schools that feed to Robinson are “mediocre”? Was not aware of that.

Anyway, are you suggesting they could build a new HS in Clifton rather than Herndon? That’s not close to Chantilly, either.

Where the school is in Clifton is actually close to Chantilly. It even shares the same road as Chantilly HS. Also not all the kids that would have gone to Clifton ES now still get to go to Robinson. We are just on are on the other side of the boundary and ended up in Fairfax Pyramid. While our ES school Willow Springs is fine, our middle school Katherine Johnson is not. And we're going to have to go to Fairfax HS which is so much further away than 3 other HS that are nearby including Robinson.

Not enough space, According to fairfaxcounty.gov it's only 14 acres.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

So why don't more students sign up for classes in their current schools?

Not everyone takes APs and the number of students taking APs is generally correlated to SES, so the schools with Higher % of high SES and low poverty students tend to offer more of those classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

So why don't more students sign up for classes in their current schools?

Not everyone takes APs and the number of students taking APs is generally correlated to SES, so the schools with Higher % of high SES and low poverty students tend to offer more of those classes.

Sure. And, if there are lots of kids in the school, obviously there are more offerings. However, size is limited in AP classes and if there are not enough kids for two classes then some are not able to take it. Kind of like in elementary school--the numbers don't always work for each grade and one level may have more kids than another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. It's a false dichotomy intended to distract.

No. It is a valid question. Seems some people on here have lost sight of why we have schools. They seem to think that shifting kids around will improve their education.

Yeah, God forbid more poor kids have the opportunity to take language or math classes at the wealthier schools that their schools don't offer.

DP. What classes are offered at "wealthier" schools that are not offered at other schools? Be specific.

you have to look school to school. Classes have to have a minimum number of students to sign up to be able to have them. As a result, in schools where there are a higher % of students taking multiple APs, there will be more offered and more classes of each. When you have more classes of each, it makes it much easier to schedule. Same with language classes, if you have more students taking them, the school can support a variety of languages to offer. Size matter too, the larger schools have an advantage too.

So why don't more students sign up for classes in their current schools?

Not everyone takes APs and the number of students taking APs is generally correlated to SES, so the schools with Higher % of high SES and low poverty students tend to offer more of those classes.

Sure. And, if there are lots of kids in the school, obviously there are more offerings. However, size is limited in AP classes and if there are not enough kids for two classes then some are not able to take it. Kind of like in elementary school--the numbers don't always work for each grade and one level may have more kids than another.

It’s not like that at all. Apples and oranges.