A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

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I'd say these idiotic tariffs are...not going to help his chances in 2020

What a f*cking moron

[Anonymous]

On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

American farmers are just getting killed and aren’t happy. There goes IA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

American farmers are just getting killed and aren’t happy. There goes IA.

No but you see now American consumers can be really f*cked too

See how it works out so well for everyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

OMG, are you this out of touch?? I’m a woman who will be voting for Trump in 2020 and the vast majority of my female friends - some of them even minorities (gasp!) - have said they will be too. Your wishful thinking is getting you nowhere.

Yay! one woman and a bunch of her stories make a great statistics. But thats not the case in 2018 and the average of polls has him at less than 43%.

Keep on living in your bubble with your meaningless polls. They've served you so well in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

I suspect Trump respects PP more than you do.

Oh yeah I don't respect any of the cult 45 members who care not about his constant lies, fraud, temper tantrum worse than a two year old, or his uncouth behavior. But race has nothing to do with it.

When you disrespect fellow citizens, do you think that makes them more or less likely to vote for Trump?

Excellent question, but I'm sure it flew way above the PP's head.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think Trump will win again in 2020 (a hex on your souls):

What do you make of the 2018 midterms? Do you think that they weren't quire as good for Democrats as the Democrats and regular analysis seems to think?

Do you think that was an anomaly but the women who voted in Democrats in the midterms will come home to the Republican party in 2020 - and if so why?

You don't need to say the word "borders" or "wall" or "ILLEGALS" because I will just assume that is part of your reasoning. I'd really just like to hear how you incorporate the 2018 blue wave into your analysis.

Not as complex as you seem to believe.

Obama had much more of a thumping in 2010, and still won in 2012.

Same with Clinton if I recall.

The mid-terms tend to have lower participation rates and different dynamics than presidential elections.

You are wrong about participation, as the "poorly educated" often are. 2018 midterm participation was the highest in over a century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/23/trumps-midterm-rebuke-came-most-diverse-electorate-history/?utm_term=.01052bb38f24

Still lower than 2016, right?

But how do you account for Democrats also having likely higher turnout in 2020? Democrats are - as far as I can see - super motivated this time around.

The election is 1.5 years away. That's a long time for excitement to fizzle

Not with the liar-in-chief reminding people how bad he is with every tweet, temper tantrums, constant stream of lies, and the Russian drip drip.

You really need to come up with more creative insults. Your repetitiveness is so unoriginal and tiresome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

You don't count, PP. And neither does your wife. Liberals will see what they want to see and they definitely don't want to see minorities and women voting for Trump. But I'm right there with you.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

You don't count, PP. And neither does your wife. Liberals will see what they want to see and they definitely don't want to see minorities and women voting for Trump. But I'm right there with you.

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

OMG, are you this out of touch?? I’m a woman who will be voting for Trump in 2020 and the vast majority of my female friends - some of them even minorities (gasp!) - have said they will be too. Your wishful thinking is getting you nowhere.

Yay! one woman and a bunch of her stories make a great statistics. But thats not the case in 2018 and the average of polls has him at less than 43%.

Keep on living in your bubble with your meaningless polls. They've served you so well in the past.

The polls got it right and he lost by 3 million votes. Do you understand odds? When the liar was given 25% chance that means he could win, it doesn’t mean 100% loss for the conman . Comey’s last minute email fiasco was the entire reason for Hillary loss.

Lighting doesn’t strike the same place again. No Hillary but Russia will still back the puppet. So let’s se if Russian wins again. I am gonna bet on america but I know your bet is with Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think Trump will win again in 2020 (a hex on your souls):

What do you make of the 2018 midterms? Do you think that they weren't quire as good for Democrats as the Democrats and regular analysis seems to think?

Do you think that was an anomaly but the women who voted in Democrats in the midterms will come home to the Republican party in 2020 - and if so why?

You don't need to say the word "borders" or "wall" or "ILLEGALS" because I will just assume that is part of your reasoning. I'd really just like to hear how you incorporate the 2018 blue wave into your analysis.

Not as complex as you seem to believe.

Obama had much more of a thumping in 2010, and still won in 2012.

Same with Clinton if I recall.

The mid-terms tend to have lower participation rates and different dynamics than presidential elections.

You are wrong about participation, as the "poorly educated" often are. 2018 midterm participation was the highest in over a century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/23/trumps-midterm-rebuke-came-most-diverse-electorate-history/?utm_term=.01052bb38f24

Still lower than 2016, right?

But how do you account for Democrats also having likely higher turnout in 2020? Democrats are - as far as I can see - super motivated this time around.

The election is 1.5 years away. That's a long time for excitement to fizzle

Not with the liar-in-chief reminding people how bad he is with every tweet, temper tantrums, constant stream of lies, and the Russian drip drip.

Trump is the same person he was during the 2016 campaign. Nothing new and was still elected.

Mueller Investigation is done. No impeachment on the horizon. You are dreaming

1) Mueller CLEARLY SAID THE CONMAN isn't exonerated.
2) Nationwide approval in low 40s
3) Statewide approval terrible in all the 3 states he won by grand total of 75k votes.
4) He Lost the popular vote by 3 million votes.
5) Hillary lost because of Comey announcing 10 days before election that the email case is re-opened. No such scenario again and Hillary not on the ballot.
6) Russia drip drip isn't over. Manafort,Stone cases continuing.
7) A dozen cases are going on about trump properties. His fraud charity shut down.
8) Tax return is coming out one way or another. NY state has cleared the path for release of state taxes.
9) Dems won 2018 by record margin with record turnout.
10) Since 2016 the electorate is 3% less white and the same percent more Asian-hispanic who vote over 70% for Dem.
11) Since 2016 the GOP voting silent gen(over 75) who vote over 66% GOP are replaced by GenZ voters who vote 66% for Dem.
12) The GOP has won the popular vote just once in over 30 years. Not a healthy party since Most Americans aren't backing the Fraud party.


Now let us see if you can rebut each one of those points by data and reasoning alone.

DP: many of those points are quite infantile and still full of too much senseless name-calling, so I have zero interest in a point-by-point discussion.

Instead, let me ask you this: back in May of 2015, who did you think would win in November of 2016, and for what 12 reasons?

My point is, it's way too early in the process to engage in such nuanced analysis.

Now, a new factor at play, that many PPs have described very well, is that for a number of reasons Trump's results have so far been better than expected. I understand you believe the opposite, but I'd encourage you to use this thread to learn more about what other people think.

It should help you find the most appropriate Dem challenger and platform

Yeah sure, infantile for the "poorly educated" that the conman loves. You have Zero interest in any discussion because all you and your cult can do is demean others BUT never can make a reasonable data based discussion. I can't learn much from the conned infantiles who support a conman, liar and destroyer of America and the worst "Precedent" in American history. Good Bye.

Speaking of infantile ^^^. I laugh at each and every one of your (many) posts. You're such a drama queen with zero originality or awareness that YOU demean others with every word you (poorly) write. Is it any wonder no one wants to converse with you? You just spew out the same nonsense, over and over. Goodbye to you. Hopefully.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think Trump will win again in 2020 (a hex on your souls):

What do you make of the 2018 midterms? Do you think that they weren't quire as good for Democrats as the Democrats and regular analysis seems to think?

Do you think that was an anomaly but the women who voted in Democrats in the midterms will come home to the Republican party in 2020 - and if so why?

You don't need to say the word "borders" or "wall" or "ILLEGALS" because I will just assume that is part of your reasoning. I'd really just like to hear how you incorporate the 2018 blue wave into your analysis.

Not as complex as you seem to believe.

Obama had much more of a thumping in 2010, and still won in 2012.

Same with Clinton if I recall.

The mid-terms tend to have lower participation rates and different dynamics than presidential elections.

You are wrong about participation, as the "poorly educated" often are. 2018 midterm participation was the highest in over a century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/23/trumps-midterm-rebuke-came-most-diverse-electorate-history/?utm_term=.01052bb38f24

Still lower than 2016, right?

But how do you account for Democrats also having likely higher turnout in 2020? Democrats are - as far as I can see - super motivated this time around.

The election is 1.5 years away. That's a long time for excitement to fizzle

Not with the liar-in-chief reminding people how bad he is with every tweet, temper tantrums, constant stream of lies, and the Russian drip drip.

You really need to come up with more creative insults. Your repetitiveness is so unoriginal and tiresome.

Tell that to the liar-in-chief too. It’s become so boring and predictable tantrums. Maybe he should just release pic of Stormy spanking his fat ass for some real GROSS entertainment value.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who think Trump will win again in 2020 (a hex on your souls):

What do you make of the 2018 midterms? Do you think that they weren't quire as good for Democrats as the Democrats and regular analysis seems to think?

Do you think that was an anomaly but the women who voted in Democrats in the midterms will come home to the Republican party in 2020 - and if so why?

You don't need to say the word "borders" or "wall" or "ILLEGALS" because I will just assume that is part of your reasoning. I'd really just like to hear how you incorporate the 2018 blue wave into your analysis.

Not as complex as you seem to believe.

Obama had much more of a thumping in 2010, and still won in 2012.

Same with Clinton if I recall.

The mid-terms tend to have lower participation rates and different dynamics than presidential elections.

You are wrong about participation, as the "poorly educated" often are. 2018 midterm participation was the highest in over a century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/23/trumps-midterm-rebuke-came-most-diverse-electorate-history/?utm_term=.01052bb38f24

Still lower than 2016, right?

But how do you account for Democrats also having likely higher turnout in 2020? Democrats are - as far as I can see - super motivated this time around.

The election is 1.5 years away. That's a long time for excitement to fizzle

Not with the liar-in-chief reminding people how bad he is with every tweet, temper tantrums, constant stream of lies, and the Russian drip drip.

Trump is the same person he was during the 2016 campaign. Nothing new and was still elected.

Mueller Investigation is done. No impeachment on the horizon. You are dreaming

1) Mueller CLEARLY SAID THE CONMAN isn't exonerated.
2) Nationwide approval in low 40s
3) Statewide approval terrible in all the 3 states he won by grand total of 75k votes.
4) He Lost the popular vote by 3 million votes.
5) Hillary lost because of Comey announcing 10 days before election that the email case is re-opened. No such scenario again and Hillary not on the ballot.
6) Russia drip drip isn't over. Manafort,Stone cases continuing.
7) A dozen cases are going on about trump properties. His fraud charity shut down.
8) Tax return is coming out one way or another. NY state has cleared the path for release of state taxes.
9) Dems won 2018 by record margin with record turnout.
10) Since 2016 the electorate is 3% less white and the same percent more Asian-hispanic who vote over 70% for Dem.
11) Since 2016 the GOP voting silent gen(over 75) who vote over 66% GOP are replaced by GenZ voters who vote 66% for Dem.
12) The GOP has won the popular vote just once in over 30 years. Not a healthy party since Most Americans aren't backing the Fraud party.


Now let us see if you can rebut each one of those points by data and reasoning alone.

DP: many of those points are quite infantile and still full of too much senseless name-calling, so I have zero interest in a point-by-point discussion.

Instead, let me ask you this: back in May of 2015, who did you think would win in November of 2016, and for what 12 reasons?

My point is, it's way too early in the process to engage in such nuanced analysis.

Now, a new factor at play, that many PPs have described very well, is that for a number of reasons Trump's results have so far been better than expected. I understand you believe the opposite, but I'd encourage you to use this thread to learn more about what other people think.

It should help you find the most appropriate Dem challenger and platform

Yeah sure, infantile for the "poorly educated" that the conman loves. You have Zero interest in any discussion because all you and your cult can do is demean others BUT never can make a reasonable data based discussion. I can't learn much from the conned infantiles who support a conman, liar and destroyer of America and the worst "Precedent" in American history. Good Bye.

Speaking of infantile ^^^. I laugh at each and every one of your (many) posts. You're such a drama queen with zero originality or awareness that YOU demean others with every word you (poorly) write. Is it any wonder no one wants to converse with you? You just spew out the same nonsense, over and over. Goodbye to you. Hopefully.
-DP

Good bye to you to cultist. Your poor English gels so well with the English challenged cult leader. Don’t let the door hit your behind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I predict Trump will win the electoral college and lose the popular vote again.

If so, we’re in for four more years of exhausting liberal tantrums.

I am optimistic they will learn at some point.

The exceptionally weird one on this thread will never learn. I suspect his or her ongoing tantrum will create ulcers, if it hasn't already. So unhealthy.