Thoughts on the new Churchill principal?

Anonymous
Or she will use the MCPS verbiage:

1) Terrific response rate (for a response rate of less than 25%)

2) People like the traffic pattern changes (even though the majority of parents have seen dangers increase and students can't get out of the Senior Lot till the buses move)

3) Thank you for the positive feedback (Principal lingo for giving parents the middle finger)

The only principal I have ever met that called things as she saw it and stepped in to fix problems when she saw them was Mrs. Benson at Hoover. I was really disappointed when MCPS wouldn't consider transferring her from Rockville HS to Churchill HS. Mrs. Benson never lied to me as a parent. She always returned an email or a phone call. Mrs. Benson was a rare gym to the community. Parents liked her, students liked her, and staff liked her.

It's sad how Dr. Benz held on for so long that Mrs. Benson took the Rockville HS promotion. It's disappointing how little MCPS listened to what the problems were at Churchill and gave us a newbie principal that is having difficulty just handling the basics. I personally think Mrs. Heckert got the job because she had connections to Mrs. Webster (the previous school Director). They both were at Damascus HS together. Combine a newbie principal and a newbie school director who are clueless where to start, that equals a craptastic plan to fix problems at Churchill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Says the principal who turned off the stadium lights on children and ordered them to go home.


Powder puff Mom is back.


Yes, as someone who sees plenty of real problems with MCPS, can you please stop piling onto Brandice Heckert. She’s so small potatoes and you’re distracting from much bigger issues and weakening those cases by seeming petty and whiny. She’s not going to be the one to solve most of your issues, principals are more or less neutered in MCPS. You’re wasting your time worrying about unreturned emails and powder puff football. Plus it’s getting old. We get it. You don’t like the new traffic pattern. You want her to pay closer attention to you and your emails, and you’re ticked off about how she disciplines.. I think you’re a different person than the one or ones posting about abusive coaches. Even those people recognize that Heckert isn’t going to take care of business. Half of that is because central ties her hands. Also principals don’t like to make too many waves until they have the lay of the land. Those decisions will have to be directed from higher up. I’m not criticizing you for disliking her and I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you’re misdirecting your attention. While you’re on here, she’s on twitter celebrating those same coaches and buddying up to central people. If you really want to engage the MCPS people, you have to go to twitter. That’s where they all are, chitchatting with each other and signing off eith #raise and all that stuff.



The big question is why is Mrs. Heckert focusing on powder puff football when there are real problems at the school? Shouldn't she have spent her time focusing on coach abuse and hazing, and drug use? Maybe by focusing on powder puff football she can district parents so they don't hold her accountable for the real problems at Churchill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but I almost can't believe that some comments are about the same school that my kids go to.

1. How can anyone say that the traffic pattern is worse this year? In the mornings we now have three ways for cars to enter the school to dropoff kids (1) Gainsborough entrance (2) right turn from Victory Land and (3) Left turn from Victory Lane. Last year we only had the right turn from Victory lane. I know that traffic is still slow (unavoidable) but can you imagine what it would be like if the only entrance were the right turn from Victory Lane again? There also seem to be more people directing traffic this year.

2. My daughter is looking forward to another year of Winter amd Spring track. She had great fun last year and we haven't heard any complaints. (Well, I do wish they were more communicative about the coach suspended for a couple of months last year)



Parents should ask their children the following questions while letting them know you will love them no matter what they tell you:

Has a coach ever offered to drive her/him alone in his car? (I would highly recommend you do not give coaches written permission to drive your child under any circumstances)

Has a coach ever commented on her/his appearance or if he liked what she/he wearing to practice?

Has a coach ever used vulgar language (ex. calling girls on the team b*tches or degrade children by cursing at them)?

Do any of the coaches give hugs or touch them in any way?

Do any of the coaches make her/him feel uncomfortable? If so, why?

Does your child have a safe adult at school that she could ask questions to or go to if something happens at a practice or a meet?

Do any of the coaches privately text or email your child? (If yes, you may want to check the text and/or email messages and ask for the coach to cc you in the future.)

Has a coach given your child a gift that none of the other athletes received?

Was your child ever pulled out of class last year for a meeting with Dr. Benz and other staff? What happened during that meeting?

Does your child know more than what the school has explained publicly?



Let's not limit this to coaches. This can occur in any area where the teachers develop a personal relationship that continues from year to year so they can build trust. This can happen where a school has only one teacher who teaches a particular subject so a child who is interested in the subject has a class with the teacher for several years in a row. The child might be interested in the area and want to please the teacher. The teacher may respond out of a desire to teach an interested student, but other times there is something scarier at play. There have been reports of grooming and abuse by music and technology teachers at other schools. Some of it has gone on for years. Even when the principal wants to do something, unless there are criminal charges, it is hard to fire a teacher.


WRONG - The Board of Education wrote a MCPS Employee Code of Conduct for a reason. It lists behaviors, many listed above, that are known grooming traits of a child predator.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/staff/staff-home-page/2018-2019_EmployeeCodeofConduct.pdf

If a staff member violates standards of conduct listed in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct, that employee can be disciplined including termination. The failure of MCPS is that they are not enforcing the code of conduct. For coaches, MCPS's actions are even more ridiculous because coaching contracts are non-tenure positions. They are issued on a season by season basis. MCPS doesn't need a reason to fire a coach. They also don't need a reason to not rehire a coach, especially if the coach is not a certified teacher and a qualified certified teacher is willing to step in as coach. Teachers actually have hiring preference under Maryland law for public school coaching positions.

Protecting your child from abuse begins with knowing the signs of a predator, reading the employee Code of Conduct, and talking with your child to make sure your child knows the standards of conduct for adults and to report to you if any actions of an adult from school depart from the norm. If your discover a violation, email the employee and cc the Principal asking for the behavior to stop.

ALL STAFF - teachers, administrators, coaches, counselors, janitorial staff, etc. - were retrained last year and retained this year on the Employee Code of Conduct. Violations are serious and MCPS should know it has a real problem if employees were told not to do these things but still are. That is how school system weeds out child predators. They will continue to violate the rules no matter how many times they are told what the rules are.

A child is extra vulnerable with a coach because there are cameras in the school building and more staff and students around in the day than in after school hours. The ability to peel a child away from the group for an opportunity to be alone with a child is endless. The opportunity is all a child predator needs to hurt your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Says the principal who turned off the stadium lights on children and ordered them to go home.


Powder puff Mom is back.


Yes, as someone who sees plenty of real problems with MCPS, can you please stop piling onto Brandice Heckert. She’s so small potatoes and you’re distracting from much bigger issues and weakening those cases by seeming petty and whiny. She’s not going to be the one to solve most of your issues, principals are more or less neutered in MCPS. You’re wasting your time worrying about unreturned emails and powder puff football. Plus it’s getting old. We get it. You don’t like the new traffic pattern. You want her to pay closer attention to you and your emails, and you’re ticked off about how she disciplines.. I think you’re a different person than the one or ones posting about abusive coaches. Even those people recognize that Heckert isn’t going to take care of business. Half of that is because central ties her hands. Also principals don’t like to make too many waves until they have the lay of the land. Those decisions will have to be directed from higher up. I’m not criticizing you for disliking her and I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you’re misdirecting your attention. While you’re on here, she’s on twitter celebrating those same coaches and buddying up to central people. If you really want to engage the MCPS people, you have to go to twitter. That’s where they all are, chitchatting with each other and signing off eith #raise and all that stuff.



The big question is why is Mrs. Heckert focusing on powder puff football when there are real problems at the school? Shouldn't she have spent her time focusing on coach abuse and hazing, and drug use? Maybe by focusing on powder puff football she can district parents so they don't hold her accountable for the real problems at Churchill.


Again with the powder puff football game?? Mrs. Heckert is not focusing on powderpuff football— you are! She enforced an existing school rule, period. If you want to blame someone for your daughter’s disappointment, blame the seniors who broke the rules!

Honestly, I am so tired of the schools NOT strongly enforcing the rules. I try to teach my kids there are consequences for their misbehaviour, but they are constantly giving me examples of where the school didn’t enforce the rules.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Says the principal who turned off the stadium lights on children and ordered them to go home.


Powder puff Mom is back.


Yes, as someone who sees plenty of real problems with MCPS, can you please stop piling onto Brandice Heckert. She’s so small potatoes and you’re distracting from much bigger issues and weakening those cases by seeming petty and whiny. She’s not going to be the one to solve most of your issues, principals are more or less neutered in MCPS. You’re wasting your time worrying about unreturned emails and powder puff football. Plus it’s getting old. We get it. You don’t like the new traffic pattern. You want her to pay closer attention to you and your emails, and you’re ticked off about how she disciplines.. I think you’re a different person than the one or ones posting about abusive coaches. Even those people recognize that Heckert isn’t going to take care of business. Half of that is because central ties her hands. Also principals don’t like to make too many waves until they have the lay of the land. Those decisions will have to be directed from higher up. I’m not criticizing you for disliking her and I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you’re misdirecting your attention. While you’re on here, she’s on twitter celebrating those same coaches and buddying up to central people. If you really want to engage the MCPS people, you have to go to twitter. That’s where they all are, chitchatting with each other and signing off eith #raise and all that stuff.



The big question is why is Mrs. Heckert focusing on powder puff football when there are real problems at the school? Shouldn't she have spent her time focusing on coach abuse and hazing, and drug use? Maybe by focusing on powder puff football she can district parents so they don't hold her accountable for the real problems at Churchill.


Again with the powder puff football game?? Mrs. Heckert is not focusing on powderpuff football— you are! She enforced an existing school rule, period. If you want to blame someone for your daughter’s disappointment, blame the seniors who broke the rules!

Honestly, I am so tired of the schools NOT strongly enforcing the rules. I try to teach my kids there are consequences for their misbehaviour, but they are constantly giving me examples of where the school didn’t enforce the rules.


The poor freshman class from Hoover. They had a tyrant of a principal there and my son thinks Mrs. Heckert is cut from the same cloth. There is even a BBB movement amongst the students. Bring back Benz.

Managing high school students is a balancing act. Prevention of problems is a much more successful tactic and creates a more positive environment than temper tantrums and punishment after punishment. After a while, teenagers start to tune out. You have to pick and choose battles. You also have a higher grounded argument if you warn a child first before issuing the punishment.

With that said - I give Mrs. Heckert an A for trying to keep drugs off school campus during quarter 1. At the one PTA meeting this year, I actually liked what she had to say about drugs and what she was doing to deal with the situation. Acknowledging the problem and telling us the plan towards fixing it is moving in the right direction. Next we need follow through. I will say on the drugs front, my child hasn't seen as many drug deals in the hallways as in previous years.

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Says the principal who turned off the stadium lights on children and ordered them to go home.


Powder puff Mom is back.


Yes, as someone who sees plenty of real problems with MCPS, can you please stop piling onto Brandice Heckert. She’s so small potatoes and you’re distracting from much bigger issues and weakening those cases by seeming petty and whiny. She’s not going to be the one to solve most of your issues, principals are more or less neutered in MCPS. You’re wasting your time worrying about unreturned emails and powder puff football. Plus it’s getting old. We get it. You don’t like the new traffic pattern. You want her to pay closer attention to you and your emails, and you’re ticked off about how she disciplines.. I think you’re a different person than the one or ones posting about abusive coaches. Even those people recognize that Heckert isn’t going to take care of business. Half of that is because central ties her hands. Also principals don’t like to make too many waves until they have the lay of the land. Those decisions will have to be directed from higher up. I’m not criticizing you for disliking her and I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying you’re misdirecting your attention. While you’re on here, she’s on twitter celebrating those same coaches and buddying up to central people. If you really want to engage the MCPS people, you have to go to twitter. That’s where they all are, chitchatting with each other and signing off eith #raise and all that stuff.



The big question is why is Mrs. Heckert focusing on powder puff football when there are real problems at the school? Shouldn't she have spent her time focusing on coach abuse and hazing, and drug use? Maybe by focusing on powder puff football she can district parents so they don't hold her accountable for the real problems at Churchill.


Again with the powder puff football game?? Mrs. Heckert is not focusing on powderpuff football— you are! She enforced an existing school rule, period. If you want to blame someone for your daughter’s disappointment, blame the seniors who broke the rules!

Honestly, I am so tired of the schools NOT strongly enforcing the rules. I try to teach my kids there are consequences for their misbehaviour, but they are constantly giving me examples of where the school didn’t enforce the rules.


The poor freshman class from Hoover. They had a tyrant of a principal there and my son thinks Mrs. Heckert is cut from the same cloth. There is even a BBB movement amongst the students. Bring back Benz.

Managing high school students is a balancing act. Prevention of problems is a much more successful tactic and creates a more positive environment than temper tantrums and punishment after punishment. After a while, teenagers start to tune out. You have to pick and choose battles. You also have a higher grounded argument if you warn a child first before issuing the punishment.

With that said - I give Mrs. Heckert an A for trying to keep drugs off school campus during quarter 1. At the one PTA meeting this year, I actually liked what she had to say about drugs and what she was doing to deal with the situation. Acknowledging the problem and telling us the plan towards fixing it is moving in the right direction. Next we need follow through. I will say on the drugs front, my child hasn't seen as many drug deals in the hallways as in previous years.

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.


If the schools seriously want to deal with the mental health issues, they need to have licensed social workers, psychologists or LPCs on staff. Counselors in MCPS have become glorified paper pushers, and they lack the skills to deal with many of the typical mental health problems. I think eventually more and more schools will be hiring counselors who have a clinical background. The needs are too great these days to leave it to people who've never made a diagnosis in their life. I don't think they should be diagnosing students or doing therapy in the school with students, but having that background would make them much more effective for even drop-in visits with students. I find it kind of shocking that MCPS (and to be fair, many other public systems) think certification is enough. The better public schools--often town models vs big systems-- are augmenting and having at least one psychologist/social worker on site for tougher cases.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.


If the schools seriously want to deal with the mental health issues, they need to have licensed social workers, psychologists or LPCs on staff. Counselors in MCPS have become glorified paper pushers, and they lack the skills to deal with many of the typical mental health problems. I think eventually more and more schools will be hiring counselors who have a clinical background. The needs are too great these days to leave it to people who've never made a diagnosis in their life. I don't think they should be diagnosing students or doing therapy in the school with students, but having that background would make them much more effective for even drop-in visits with students. I find it kind of shocking that MCPS (and to be fair, many other public systems) think certification is enough. The better public schools--often town models vs big systems-- are augmenting and having at least one psychologist/social worker on site for tougher cases.

MCPS has on staff school psychologists that float in between several high schools. Most have a Master's degree and a certificate from MCPS - not enough in the private sector to be a psychologist. These school psychologists are often task with the job of screening children for disabilities that have an educational impact, not identifying or treating mental illness. They have little foundation on even understanding what a child needs as supports in times of trauma or a severe mental health crisis. They do not have time to actually put eyes on a child in most cases and just deal with statistical data without even getting to know the whole child.

I think there should be some mechanism for a school to signal the need for a true expert, someone with a Ph.D. and extra certification in subspecialty areas for cases where a child is reported to have been abused or is reported at risk for suicide. The failure and lack of support within MCPS could actually push a child over the edge and lead to death. Coordination of MCPS services that can be provided in schools or referrals to community services for treatment via outside agencies would be a step in the right direction.

At Churchill, the counseling staff does nothing more than assign children classes and write college recommendations. Beyond that, they are useless and don't care if they see a child in crisis. Just like most staff, they truly are just punching the time clock for a paycheck and really don't care to do what it takes to help children especially when that means calling for extra help within a school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.


If the schools seriously want to deal with the mental health issues, they need to have licensed social workers, psychologists or LPCs on staff. Counselors in MCPS have become glorified paper pushers, and they lack the skills to deal with many of the typical mental health problems. I think eventually more and more schools will be hiring counselors who have a clinical background. The needs are too great these days to leave it to people who've never made a diagnosis in their life. I don't think they should be diagnosing students or doing therapy in the school with students, but having that background would make them much more effective for even drop-in visits with students. I find it kind of shocking that MCPS (and to be fair, many other public systems) think certification is enough. The better public schools--often town models vs big systems-- are augmenting and having at least one psychologist/social worker on site for tougher cases.


MCPS has on staff school psychologists that float in between several high schools. Most have a Master's degree and a certificate from MCPS - not enough in the private sector to be a psychologist. These school psychologists are often task with the job of screening children for disabilities that have an educational impact, not identifying or treating mental illness. They have little foundation on even understanding what a child needs as supports in times of trauma or a severe mental health crisis. They do not have time to actually put eyes on a child in most cases and just deal with statistical data without even getting to know the whole child.

I think there should be some mechanism for a school to signal the need for a true expert, someone with a Ph.D. and extra certification in subspecialty areas for cases where a child is reported to have been abused or is reported at risk for suicide. The failure and lack of support within MCPS could actually push a child over the edge and lead to death. Coordination of MCPS services that can be provided in schools or referrals to community services for treatment via outside agencies would be a step in the right direction.

At Churchill, the counseling staff does nothing more than assign children classes and write college recommendations. Beyond that, they are useless and don't care if they see a child in crisis. Just like most staff, they truly are just punching the time clock for a paycheck and really don't care to do what it takes to help children especially when that means calling for extra help within a school.

Now you are starting to venture into the realm where the school is also a health care provider. I don't think there is the political will or frankly the money to create an adequate mental health system within the schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but I almost can't believe that some comments are about the same school that my kids go to.

1. How can anyone say that the traffic pattern is worse this year? In the mornings we now have three ways for cars to enter the school to dropoff kids (1) Gainsborough entrance (2) right turn from Victory Land and (3) Left turn from Victory Lane. Last year we only had the right turn from Victory lane. I know that traffic is still slow (unavoidable) but can you imagine what it would be like if the only entrance were the right turn from Victory Lane again? There also seem to be more people directing traffic this year.

2. My daughter is looking forward to another year of Winter amd Spring track. She had great fun last year and we haven't heard any complaints. (Well, I do wish they were more communicative about the coach suspended for a couple of months last year)



Parents should ask their children the following questions while letting them know you will love them no matter what they tell you:

Has a coach ever offered to drive her/him alone in his car? (I would highly recommend you do not give coaches written permission to drive your child under any circumstances)

Has a coach ever commented on her/his appearance or if he liked what she/he wearing to practice?

Has a coach ever used vulgar language (ex. calling girls on the team b*tches or degrade children by cursing at them)?

Do any of the coaches give hugs or touch them in any way?

Do any of the coaches make her/him feel uncomfortable? If so, why?

Does your child have a safe adult at school that she could ask questions to or go to if something happens at a practice or a meet?

Do any of the coaches privately text or email your child? (If yes, you may want to check the text and/or email messages and ask for the coach to cc you in the future.)

Has a coach given your child a gift that none of the other athletes received?

Was your child ever pulled out of class last year for a meeting with Dr. Benz and other staff? What happened during that meeting?

Does your child know more than what the school has explained publicly?


My daughter answered "No" to all these questions. Of course, that does not mean that other students in Churchill track have not experienced problems. It could also mean that there are some overprotective parents of athletes on the team.
Anonymous
As a parent of a child who answered yes to all the questions and provided details, be thankful your child has not yet been targeted.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.


If the schools seriously want to deal with the mental health issues, they need to have licensed social workers, psychologists or LPCs on staff. Counselors in MCPS have become glorified paper pushers, and they lack the skills to deal with many of the typical mental health problems. I think eventually more and more schools will be hiring counselors who have a clinical background. The needs are too great these days to leave it to people who've never made a diagnosis in their life. I don't think they should be diagnosing students or doing therapy in the school with students, but having that background would make them much more effective for even drop-in visits with students. I find it kind of shocking that MCPS (and to be fair, many other public systems) think certification is enough. The better public schools--often town models vs big systems-- are augmenting and having at least one psychologist/social worker on site for tougher cases.


MCPS has on staff school psychologists that float in between several high schools. Most have a Master's degree and a certificate from MCPS - not enough in the private sector to be a psychologist. These school psychologists are often task with the job of screening children for disabilities that have an educational impact, not identifying or treating mental illness. They have little foundation on even understanding what a child needs as supports in times of trauma or a severe mental health crisis. They do not have time to actually put eyes on a child in most cases and just deal with statistical data without even getting to know the whole child.

I think there should be some mechanism for a school to signal the need for a true expert, someone with a Ph.D. and extra certification in subspecialty areas for cases where a child is reported to have been abused or is reported at risk for suicide. The failure and lack of support within MCPS could actually push a child over the edge and lead to death. Coordination of MCPS services that can be provided in schools or referrals to community services for treatment via outside agencies would be a step in the right direction.

At Churchill, the counseling staff does nothing more than assign children classes and write college recommendations. Beyond that, they are useless and don't care if they see a child in crisis. Just like most staff, they truly are just punching the time clock for a paycheck and really don't care to do what it takes to help children especially when that means calling for extra help within a school.


Now you are starting to venture into the realm where the school is also a health care provider. I don't think there is the political will or frankly the money to create an adequate mental health system within the schools.

I posted above about adding psychologists/social workers and others with clinical experiences to MCPS staff. I was not referring to school psychologists, who have no home base and float around making edicts about whether kids should get 504 or IEP plans. I think they're some of the least-skilled and least-empathetic people in all of MCPS. I say this as someone who has worked with many of them. The counselors I've worked with have had far more empathy than the school psychologists. I'm talking about clinical therapists getting assigned a school. This happens in some higher-need schools but should happen across the board. I don't think MCPS should become a health care provider per se, but I think they should be screening for mental health issues well beyond ADHD and anxiety, just as they screen for vision or speech or SLDs. The services themselves (therapy, for instance, or partial hospitalization if necessary) should be done elsewhere. I'd rather see fewer counselors if necessary to have one licensed clinician per school, though I think that the system would be better off cutting instructional specialists in central office first. There's no question in my mind that anxiety and depression have become prevalent enough to warrant this--I bet if you surveyed school nurses, they'd tell you that a huge number of kids coming to see them "sick" are actually in need of outside mental health counseling. I'd say they could rely on school counseling services, but the counselors have got no time anymore for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Now she needs to acknowledge the other problems in the school: coaches, athletic hazing rituals, anti-semitism, the math department, student mental health issues, etc. and present the plan on what is being done on those fronts.


If the schools seriously want to deal with the mental health issues, they need to have licensed social workers, psychologists or LPCs on staff. Counselors in MCPS have become glorified paper pushers, and they lack the skills to deal with many of the typical mental health problems. I think eventually more and more schools will be hiring counselors who have a clinical background. The needs are too great these days to leave it to people who've never made a diagnosis in their life. I don't think they should be diagnosing students or doing therapy in the school with students, but having that background would make them much more effective for even drop-in visits with students. I find it kind of shocking that MCPS (and to be fair, many other public systems) think certification is enough. The better public schools--often town models vs big systems-- are augmenting and having at least one psychologist/social worker on site for tougher cases.


MCPS has on staff school psychologists that float in between several high schools. Most have a Master's degree and a certificate from MCPS - not enough in the private sector to be a psychologist. These school psychologists are often task with the job of screening children for disabilities that have an educational impact, not identifying or treating mental illness. They have little foundation on even understanding what a child needs as supports in times of trauma or a severe mental health crisis. They do not have time to actually put eyes on a child in most cases and just deal with statistical data without even getting to know the whole child.

I think there should be some mechanism for a school to signal the need for a true expert, someone with a Ph.D. and extra certification in subspecialty areas for cases where a child is reported to have been abused or is reported at risk for suicide. The failure and lack of support within MCPS could actually push a child over the edge and lead to death. Coordination of MCPS services that can be provided in schools or referrals to community services for treatment via outside agencies would be a step in the right direction.

At Churchill, the counseling staff does nothing more than assign children classes and write college recommendations. Beyond that, they are useless and don't care if they see a child in crisis. Just like most staff, they truly are just punching the time clock for a paycheck and really don't care to do what it takes to help children especially when that means calling for extra help within a school.


Now you are starting to venture into the realm where the school is also a health care provider. I don't think there is the political will or frankly the money to create an adequate mental health system within the schools.


I posted above about adding psychologists/social workers and others with clinical experiences to MCPS staff. I was not referring to school psychologists, who have no home base and float around making edicts about whether kids should get 504 or IEP plans. I think they're some of the least-skilled and least-empathetic people in all of MCPS. I say this as someone who has worked with many of them. The counselors I've worked with have had far more empathy than the school psychologists. I'm talking about clinical therapists getting assigned a school. This happens in some higher-need schools but should happen across the board. I don't think MCPS should become a health care provider per se, but I think they should be screening for mental health issues well beyond ADHD and anxiety, just as they screen for vision or speech or SLDs. The services themselves (therapy, for instance, or partial hospitalization if necessary) should be done elsewhere. I'd rather see fewer counselors if necessary to have one licensed clinician per school, though I think that the system would be better off cutting instructional specialists in central office first. There's no question in my mind that anxiety and depression have become prevalent enough to warrant this--I bet if you surveyed school nurses, they'd tell you that a huge number of kids coming to see them "sick" are actually in need of outside mental health counseling. I'd say they could rely on school counseling services, but the counselors have got no time anymore for that.

+1000

Under the IDEA child find provision, schools are required to screen for mental health impairments as it is considered an Other Health Impairment that could have an educational impact. I would agree the expertise within most of MCPS schools is lacking for this function and funding should be shifted from other areas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but I almost can't believe that some comments are about the same school that my kids go to.

1. How can anyone say that the traffic pattern is worse this year? In the mornings we now have three ways for cars to enter the school to dropoff kids (1) Gainsborough entrance (2) right turn from Victory Land and (3) Left turn from Victory Lane. Last year we only had the right turn from Victory lane. I know that traffic is still slow (unavoidable) but can you imagine what it would be like if the only entrance were the right turn from Victory Lane again? There also seem to be more people directing traffic this year.

2. My daughter is looking forward to another year of Winter amd Spring track. She had great fun last year and we haven't heard any complaints. (Well, I do wish they were more communicative about the coach suspended for a couple of months last year)



Parents should ask their children the following questions while letting them know you will love them no matter what they tell you:

Has a coach ever offered to drive her/him alone in his car? (I would highly recommend you do not give coaches written permission to drive your child under any circumstances)

Has a coach ever commented on her/his appearance or if he liked what she/he wearing to practice?

Has a coach ever used vulgar language (ex. calling girls on the team b*tches or degrade children by cursing at them)?

Do any of the coaches give hugs or touch them in any way?

Do any of the coaches make her/him feel uncomfortable? If so, why?

Does your child have a safe adult at school that she could ask questions to or go to if something happens at a practice or a meet?

Do any of the coaches privately text or email your child? (If yes, you may want to check the text and/or email messages and ask for the coach to cc you in the future.)

Has a coach given your child a gift that none of the other athletes received?

Was your child ever pulled out of class last year for a meeting with Dr. Benz and other staff? What happened during that meeting?

Does your child know more than what the school has explained publicly?



Let's not limit this to coaches. This can occur in any area where the teachers develop a personal relationship that continues from year to year so they can build trust. This can happen where a school has only one teacher who teaches a particular subject so a child who is interested in the subject has a class with the teacher for several years in a row. The child might be interested in the area and want to please the teacher. The teacher may respond out of a desire to teach an interested student, but other times there is something scarier at play. There have been reports of grooming and abuse by music and technology teachers at other schools. Some of it has gone on for years. Even when the principal wants to do something, unless there are criminal charges, it is hard to fire a teacher.


WRONG - The Board of Education wrote a MCPS Employee Code of Conduct for a reason. It lists behaviors, many listed above, that are known grooming traits of a child predator.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/staff/staff-home-page/2018-2019_EmployeeCodeofConduct.pdf

If a staff member violates standards of conduct listed in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct, that employee can be disciplined including termination. The failure of MCPS is that they are not enforcing the code of conduct. For coaches, MCPS's actions are even more ridiculous because coaching contracts are non-tenure positions. They are issued on a season by season basis. MCPS doesn't need a reason to fire a coach. They also don't need a reason to not rehire a coach, especially if the coach is not a certified teacher and a qualified certified teacher is willing to step in as coach. Teachers actually have hiring preference under Maryland law for public school coaching positions.

Protecting your child from abuse begins with knowing the signs of a predator, reading the employee Code of Conduct, and talking with your child to make sure your child knows the standards of conduct for adults and to report to you if any actions of an adult from school depart from the norm. If your discover a violation, email the employee and cc the Principal asking for the behavior to stop.

ALL STAFF - teachers, administrators, coaches, counselors, janitorial staff, etc. - were retrained last year and retained this year on the Employee Code of Conduct. Violations are serious and MCPS should know it has a real problem if employees were told not to do these things but still are. That is how school system weeds out child predators. They will continue to violate the rules no matter how many times they are told what the rules are.

A child is extra vulnerable with a coach because there are cameras in the school building and more staff and students around in the day than in after school hours. The ability to peel a child away from the group for an opportunity to be alone with a child is endless. The opportunity is all a child predator needs to hurt your child.



There are policies, but the union contract makes it hard to fire anyone. If you have any doubts, take a look at the 165-page union contract for MCPS teachers. If that isn't enough, there are state law and regulations, which also give teachers due process rights. This article is about PG County Public Schools, but you get the idea.


https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2018/11/prince-georges-co-schools-says-it-cant-fire-employee-in-racial-slur-video/

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Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but I almost can't believe that some comments are about the same school that my kids go to.

1. How can anyone say that the traffic pattern is worse this year? In the mornings we now have three ways for cars to enter the school to dropoff kids (1) Gainsborough entrance (2) right turn from Victory Land and (3) Left turn from Victory Lane. Last year we only had the right turn from Victory lane. I know that traffic is still slow (unavoidable) but can you imagine what it would be like if the only entrance were the right turn from Victory Lane again? There also seem to be more people directing traffic this year.

2. My daughter is looking forward to another year of Winter amd Spring track. She had great fun last year and we haven't heard any complaints. (Well, I do wish they were more communicative about the coach suspended for a couple of months last year)



Parents should ask their children the following questions while letting them know you will love them no matter what they tell you:

Has a coach ever offered to drive her/him alone in his car? (I would highly recommend you do not give coaches written permission to drive your child under any circumstances)

Has a coach ever commented on her/his appearance or if he liked what she/he wearing to practice?

Has a coach ever used vulgar language (ex. calling girls on the team b*tches or degrade children by cursing at them)?

Do any of the coaches give hugs or touch them in any way?

Do any of the coaches make her/him feel uncomfortable? If so, why?

Does your child have a safe adult at school that she could ask questions to or go to if something happens at a practice or a meet?

Do any of the coaches privately text or email your child? (If yes, you may want to check the text and/or email messages and ask for the coach to cc you in the future.)

Has a coach given your child a gift that none of the other athletes received?

Was your child ever pulled out of class last year for a meeting with Dr. Benz and other staff? What happened during that meeting?

Does your child know more than what the school has explained publicly?



Let's not limit this to coaches. This can occur in any area where the teachers develop a personal relationship that continues from year to year so they can build trust. This can happen where a school has only one teacher who teaches a particular subject so a child who is interested in the subject has a class with the teacher for several years in a row. The child might be interested in the area and want to please the teacher. The teacher may respond out of a desire to teach an interested student, but other times there is something scarier at play. There have been reports of grooming and abuse by music and technology teachers at other schools. Some of it has gone on for years. Even when the principal wants to do something, unless there are criminal charges, it is hard to fire a teacher.


WRONG - The Board of Education wrote a MCPS Employee Code of Conduct for a reason. It lists behaviors, many listed above, that are known grooming traits of a child predator.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/staff/staff-home-page/2018-2019_EmployeeCodeofConduct.pdf

If a staff member violates standards of conduct listed in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct, that employee can be disciplined including termination. The failure of MCPS is that they are not enforcing the code of conduct. For coaches, MCPS's actions are even more ridiculous because coaching contracts are non-tenure positions. They are issued on a season by season basis. MCPS doesn't need a reason to fire a coach. They also don't need a reason to not rehire a coach, especially if the coach is not a certified teacher and a qualified certified teacher is willing to step in as coach. Teachers actually have hiring preference under Maryland law for public school coaching positions.

Protecting your child from abuse begins with knowing the signs of a predator, reading the employee Code of Conduct, and talking with your child to make sure your child knows the standards of conduct for adults and to report to you if any actions of an adult from school depart from the norm. If your discover a violation, email the employee and cc the Principal asking for the behavior to stop.

ALL STAFF - teachers, administrators, coaches, counselors, janitorial staff, etc. - were retrained last year and retained this year on the Employee Code of Conduct. Violations are serious and MCPS should know it has a real problem if employees were told not to do these things but still are. That is how school system weeds out child predators. They will continue to violate the rules no matter how many times they are told what the rules are.

A child is extra vulnerable with a coach because there are cameras in the school building and more staff and students around in the day than in after school hours. The ability to peel a child away from the group for an opportunity to be alone with a child is endless. The opportunity is all a child predator needs to hurt your child.



There are policies, but the union contract makes it hard to fire anyone. If you have any doubts, take a look at the 165-page union contract for MCPS teachers. If that isn't enough, there are state law and regulations, which also give teachers due process rights. This article is about PG County Public Schools, but you get the idea.


https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2018/11/prince-georges-co-schools-says-it-cant-fire-employee-in-racial-slur-video/



Coaches are part-time, contract, non-union positions. They are hired on a season by season basis. If a coach violates the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct, MCPS has grounds to immediate terminate the employment. A principal or an athletic director can decide for any reason to not rehire a coach simply by not renewing the contract.

As far as getting rid of predatory teachers - yes, real difficult because of the union. However, MCPS could transfer the teacher to another assignment away from children while the Due Process procedures are carried out.
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When children are being targeted based on their gender, the indifference to stop gender discrimination is a blatant violation of Title IX.
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