What is Middle Class....Really?

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

I've got plenty, and I earned it on my own. What a #itch you are!

[Anonymous]

Let's all settle down.

Obviously NYC isn't the same as DC but that's some interesting evidence that families making 100/150/200 are by no stretch upper middle class in major metro areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's all settle down.

Obviously NYC isn't the same as DC but that's some interesting evidence that families making 100/150/200 are by no stretch upper middle class in major metro areas.

True, $200,000 is not the lap of luxury in Manhattan. But who says people are entitled to live in Manhattan, if it requires taxpayer subsidies at the $200k level. Why not live in Brooklyn or somewhere more affordable. It's not like NYC is running a surplus.

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

Did your maiden name start with a "C"? You talk like someone I used to know.

[Anonymous]

More about social class not being related to income:

https://hbr.org/2017/05/research-how-you-feel-about-individualism-is-influenced-by-your-social-class

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Anonymous wrote:More about social class not being related to income:

https://hbr.org/2017/05/research-how-you-feel-about-individualism-is-influenced-by-your-social-class

Net worth and non financial factors

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

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Agreed that OP is a blithering idiot. It doesn't take much in the way of brains or competence to earn 100k/year around DC, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

+1

Agreed that OP is a blithering idiot. It doesn't take much in the way of brains or competence to earn 100k/year around DC, apparently.

+2. OP has absolutely no class...her income doesn't even matter at this point. She sounds more like someone making 30k and living in a trailer home. Perhaps she does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You get extremely cheap rent for middle income housing. As in $1000 less/month. And in some buildings for a family of 4 the income limits are above $200k/year.

Link showing under what circumstances a family earning $200,000 gets housing subsidies?

Are you people so lazy and incompetent you can't actually look this up for yourselves? No wonder you all languish in mediocrity.

http://www.nychdc.com/pages/MI_Manhattan.html

Well, aren't you a nice one?

Anyway, the middle-income apartments I checked all seem to top out at $134,000. I see nowhere where a couple earning $200,000 get taxpayer assistance.

"Couple" is not the same thing as "family of four". We'll add illiteracy to the list of shortcomings.

I saw it said "family of four," but I imagine the the kiddos aren't contributing to the $200,000. Besides, it says $134,000 for a family of four. Show me where a family earning $200,000 is sucking off taxpayers, and I'll have an interesting editorial to submit.

(And no need for me to outline your shortcomings. Anyone reading your lovely posts already has an idea.)

http://www.nychdc.com/content/pdf/ProjectAdvertisements/Beacon%20Mews.pdf

Right hand side column dear. "Income range" means "amount of income you can have and still qualify."

That was a different link this time, dear. You linked to something else earlier.

Still....that's absolutely inexcusable! Families earning $214,000 should not be taking taxpayer funds. No wonder the city is broke. That liberal mayor needs to have his head examined.

Actually, that second link is the very first link listed in the first link I posted. The one that says "advertisement." The first page is a list of buildings you see, and from that list you can access specific buildings (which is what that second link is).

I hope for your sake you're a trophy wife, because your brains are not going to get you far.

+1

Agreed that OP is a blithering idiot. It doesn't take much in the way of brains or competence to earn 100k/year around DC, apparently.

+2. OP has absolutely no class...her income doesn't even matter at this point. She sounds more like someone making 30k and living in a trailer home. Perhaps she does.

You rude snobs calling the professional earning $100,000 a "blithering idiot" and "trailer trash" should have a look at the other thread that shows a college-educated earner making $100,000 is in the top 15% of all college graduates (the majority of whom love in cities where COL is high).

You snobs are why average earners making $40,000 rejected Democrats - which was, I believe, the point OP was making. Talk about idiots - you're too stupid to understand that.

[Anonymous]

Why anyone making $40K thinks anyone of either party is interested in their issues is beyond me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone making $40K thinks anyone of either party is interested in their issues is beyond me.

Because that's the range in which most voters fall, and when you ignore the issues of the largest voting segment, you lose. How anyone doesn't get this behind ME!

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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone making $40K thinks anyone of either party is interested in their issues is beyond me.

Because that's the range in which most voters fall, and when you ignore the issues of the largest voting segment, you lose. How anyone doesn't get this behind ME!

But what issues are unique to $40K HHI that $20K or $60K households don't have?