So, what is wrong with Hardy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:@1403: DCPS won't evict Fillmore in order to expand Hardy to take in more lottery kids, unless DCPS has a replacement for Fillmore's classes. But there is no replacement for Fillmore's services. Ergo, you can stop dreaming about Fillmore being evicted.

DCPS was going to do it in 2013. Plans like that never die, they get deferred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Deal can become a viable option for families like it has, so can Hardy in a couple years.

Hardy, har, har.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@1403: DCPS won't evict Fillmore in order to expand Hardy to take in more lottery kids, unless DCPS has a replacement for Fillmore's classes. But there is no replacement for Fillmore's services. Ergo, you can stop dreaming about Fillmore being evicted.

DCPS was going to do it in 2013. Plans like that never die, they get deferred.

...and WHY didn't DCPS shut down Fillmore, pray you tell, hmmmmm? I know the answer, but I want to understand whether you have a practical understanding of the situation that Fillmore represents.

[Anonymous]

According to my son, the best thing about missing school today was that he missed going to Fillmore. But that is off-topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:@1403: DCPS won't evict Fillmore in order to expand Hardy to take in more lottery kids, unless DCPS has a replacement for Fillmore's classes. But there is no replacement for Fillmore's services. Ergo, you can stop dreaming about Fillmore being evicted.

DCPS was going to do it in 2013. Plans like that never die, they get deferred.

...and WHY didn't DCPS shut down Fillmore, pray you tell, hmmmmm? I know the answer, but I want to understand whether you have a practical understanding of the situation that Fillmore represents.

OK, I'll bite. DCPS didn't shut down Fillmore because they didn't have a plan to replace the art and music for the member schools. DCPS requires art and music, and the schools can't provide it as cheaply as Fillmore does. Plus many don't have the physical space.

But just because DCPS didn't come up with a plan last time doesn't mean that DCPS can't come up with a plan. DCPS has loads of under-utilized space, system-wide they're at about 65% capacity. They could keep the Fillmore program and just do it somewhere else. What DCPS is short on is successful schools, and when a school starts showing promise the last thing DCPS is going to do is let space constraints limit enrollment. Look at the way all of the Ward 3 schools are crowded. If Hardy fills up Fillmore is out.

[Anonymous]

I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

It's more likely that DCPS eventually will move Hardy out of the Wilson feeder system completely. If you recall, the first version of the DME plan contemplated Hardy feeding to a "TBD" (the term used was "new") high school. Short of something crazy like renaming Hardy for Marion Barry, I can't think of anything that would so cripple Hardy as to take it out of Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

Woodrow Wilson for all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

It's more likely that DCPS eventually will move Hardy out of the Wilson feeder system completely. If you recall, the first version of the DME plan contemplated Hardy feeding to a "TBD" (the term used was "new") high school. Short of something crazy like renaming Hardy for Marion Barry, I can't think of anything that would so cripple Hardy as to take it out of Wilson.

I'm telling you from the inside: that was never a serious option. There are numerous reasons it was listed, but a legit possibility it was not.

By the way, Wilson may be the best high school in DC, but it is far from stellar. It is comparable to Hardy. The test scores, controlling for environment, are slightly better than Hardy, but not by much.

[Anonymous]

Hardy feeding to a new high school was never a serious option.

The concept was just "tested", but Ward 3 families showed negative reaction or indifference (meeting with DME at Palisades Library; meeting with M. Cheh at Chevy Chase Library).

It clearly showed itself as battle with little or no political returns, and was soon after abandoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Short of something crazy like renaming Hardy for Marion Barry, I can't think of anything that would so cripple Hardy as to take it out of Wilson.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

Obviously neither of you have been paying attention to what's been going on in the past ten years at DCPS. Capacity has been increased willy-nilly in the Deal and Wilson feeders with no regard for the future consequences. Ninety percent of DCPS schools are under-enrolled, so when there's a school that people actually want to go to, DCPS crams as many kids in as possible, and then crams in some more. The sole beneficiary of these expansions have been OOB students -- the majority of kids who go to school in Ward 3 don't live in Ward 3 -- and OOB kids are an extremely important constituency in DCPS. In recent years Hardy hasn't turned anyone away in the lottery and has had trouble meeting its enrollment goals. If Hardy starts attracting students, it is going to grow, grow, and grow some more. That's the way DCPS rolls. If the demand is there Hardy could rival Deal for size -- Fillmore can move somewhere else, and they can put trailers in the parking lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not think so.
More students at Hardy = more students at Wilson.

Feeder rights for Shepherd and Bancroft into Deal/Wilson have been established and confirmed for political reasons and to please their IB constituency . Bowser's Ward 4 Crestwood voters have been recently rewarded with extended rights into the over-over-crowded Deal and Wilson...

An enlarged Hardy would only benefit a relatively small number of OB students, not a well-defined constituency.

An enlarged Hardy would just worsen Wilson overcrowding (a severe problem for DCPS) without bringing political returns.

I agree. I do not see this happening.

Obviously neither of you have been paying attention to what's been going on in the past ten years at DCPS. Capacity has been increased willy-nilly in the Deal and Wilson feeders with no regard for the future consequences. Ninety percent of DCPS schools are under-enrolled, so when there's a school that people actually want to go to, DCPS crams as many kids in as possible, and then crams in some more. The sole beneficiary of these expansions have been OOB students -- the majority of kids who go to school in Ward 3 don't live in Ward 3 -- and OOB kids are an extremely important constituency in DCPS. In recent years Hardy hasn't turned anyone away in the lottery and has had trouble meeting its enrollment goals. If Hardy starts attracting students, it is going to grow, grow, and grow some more. That's the way DCPS rolls. If the demand is there Hardy could rival Deal for size -- Fillmore can move somewhere else, and they can put trailers in the parking lot.

Exactly, PP.

[Anonymous]

Really? Hardy doesn't turn anyone away?

That seems like they want to fill it up then.