St James Academy

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My son was born in September. He'll start senior year at 16 and graduate at 17.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of a 16 year old senior, that's very odd to me. Kids turn 17 as juniors.

Regardless, its within the VHSL rules to reclass up until the age cutoff so anyone can choose to do it, if they want to.

I turned 17 in October my senior year.

I turned 17 November 17th of my senior year and still played D1 football.

I can understand if a kid has a Nov, Dec, October birthday making them 17 their senior year reclassing for sports, but I think it’s f’d up that kids beyond that have to just to compete. However, we’ve gotten to that point.

Whatever circumstances put you at turning 17, instead of 18, your senior year are a thing of the past. The vast majority of kids turn 18 sometime between the summer before and the summer after their senior year, making someone who turns 19 during that time period a year older, but very rarely two years older. Don’t mistake your very rare situation as the norm; it’s the exception.

It’s so easy to tell you lead a privileged life…

There are plenty of kids in this exact situation, just not in wealthy districts/private schools. An extra year of preschool isn’t something everyone can easily afford. Many lower income families are eager to get their kids as soon as possible.

Locally, the cutoff is Sept 30. So no matter how desperately poor, almost everyone who starts school on time is going to be 17 as seniors.

NYC public schools have 12/31 cutoff.

So a kid who starts school in NYC on time with a 12/31 birthday that decides to play football and never reclasses to gain an athletic advantage will be playing against your 19 year olds

Yeah that kid will be 16, playing against 19 year old men.

I am from NY and had the fall birthday, but female. Yes, I started as 16 and turned 17 my senior year.

You are taking the two extremes and discussing the 16 yo seniors with fall birthdays before they turn 17 and assuming they move here. And then talking about the 19 yo seniors after they turn 19. They won’t start the year at 19. Why are spending so much time worrying about this? I played a varsity sport. It was mixed grade levels. My age was not a concern. Those 16 yo will reclass or they won’t. Hs teams have all ages anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of a 16 year old senior, that's very odd to me. Kids turn 17 as juniors.

Regardless, its within the VHSL rules to reclass up until the age cutoff so anyone can choose to do it, if they want to.

I turned 17 in October my senior year.

I turned 17 November 17th of my senior year and still played D1 football.

I can understand if a kid has a Nov, Dec, October birthday making them 17 their senior year reclassing for sports, but I think it’s f’d up that kids beyond that have to just to compete. However, we’ve gotten to that point.

Whatever circumstances put you at turning 17, instead of 18, your senior year are a thing of the past. The vast majority of kids turn 18 sometime between the summer before and the summer after their senior year, making someone who turns 19 during that time period a year older, but very rarely two years older. Don’t mistake your very rare situation as the norm; it’s the exception.

It’s so easy to tell you lead a privileged life…

There are plenty of kids in this exact situation, just not in wealthy districts/private schools. An extra year of preschool isn’t something everyone can easily afford. Many lower income families are eager to get their kids as soon as possible.

Locally, the cutoff is Sept 30. So no matter how desperately poor, almost everyone who starts school on time is going to be 17 as seniors.

NYC public schools have 12/31 cutoff.

So a kid who starts school in NYC on time with a 12/31 birthday that decides to play football and never reclasses to gain an athletic advantage will be playing against your 19 year olds

Yeah that kid will be 16, playing against 19 year old men.

I am from NY and had the fall birthday, but female. Yes, I started as 16 and turned 17 my senior year.

You are taking the two extremes and discussing the 16 yo seniors with fall birthdays before they turn 17 and assuming they move here. And then talking about the 19 yo seniors after they turn 19. They won’t start the year at 19. Why are spending so much time worrying about this? I played a varsity sport. It was mixed grade levels. My age was not a concern. Those 16 yo will reclass or they won’t. Hs teams have all ages anyway.

You’re old now, so what you experienced is no longer relevant.

The point is that kids move all over the country at different points in their lives. PP made it seem like there are almost no situations in which a student would start HS at 16. That’s wrong.

And here’s where the current reality is so much different than what you experienced in the nineties — people redshirt their kids all the time now. It’s not just one or two kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My son was born in September. He'll start senior year at 16 and graduate at 17.

Great...so your kid is part of the 10% who won't turn 18 during their senior year of high school. Is there anything more to your post?

Is your kid even an athlete...or a college-recruited athlete?

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard of a 16 year old senior, that's very odd to me. Kids turn 17 as juniors.

Regardless, its within the VHSL rules to reclass up until the age cutoff so anyone can choose to do it, if they want to.

I turned 17 in October my senior year.

I turned 17 November 17th of my senior year and still played D1 football.

I can understand if a kid has a Nov, Dec, October birthday making them 17 their senior year reclassing for sports, but I think it’s f’d up that kids beyond that have to just to compete. However, we’ve gotten to that point.

Whatever circumstances put you at turning 17, instead of 18, your senior year are a thing of the past. The vast majority of kids turn 18 sometime between the summer before and the summer after their senior year, making someone who turns 19 during that time period a year older, but very rarely two years older. Don’t mistake your very rare situation as the norm; it’s the exception.

It’s so easy to tell you lead a privileged life…

There are plenty of kids in this exact situation, just not in wealthy districts/private schools. An extra year of preschool isn’t something everyone can easily afford. Many lower income families are eager to get their kids as soon as possible.

Locally, the cutoff is Sept 30. So no matter how desperately poor, almost everyone who starts school on time is going to be 17 as seniors.

NYC public schools have 12/31 cutoff.

So a kid who starts school in NYC on time with a 12/31 birthday that decides to play football and never reclasses to gain an athletic advantage will be playing against your 19 year olds

Yeah that kid will be 16, playing against 19 year old men.

I am from NY and had the fall birthday, but female. Yes, I started as 16 and turned 17 my senior year.

You are taking the two extremes and discussing the 16 yo seniors with fall birthdays before they turn 17 and assuming they move here. And then talking about the 19 yo seniors after they turn 19. They won’t start the year at 19. Why are spending so much time worrying about this? I played a varsity sport. It was mixed grade levels. My age was not a concern. Those 16 yo will reclass or they won’t. Hs teams have all ages anyway.

They are talking about it because a kid who starts school when they are supposed to and does what he is supposed to can be a 16 year old senior. It’s not fair that he has to face 19 year old men in the same situation.

When this 16 year old was a freshman, he was 13 playing football. It’s actually unsafe for him to be facing 19 year old men on the football field.

The system is being exploited. If a player is that good, he shouldn’t need to do all the reclassing.

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It is fair, because everyone is following the existing rules.

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Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

Grades, SAT’s, height, weight, connections, help from their schools, and overall college marketability all factor into offers. If a kid doesn’t have offers it doesn’t mean he isn’t a top player. I’ve seen lots of kids who were capable of playing D1 not make it for different reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

Grades, SAT’s, height, weight, connections, help from their schools, and overall college marketability all factor into offers. If a kid doesn’t have offers it doesn’t mean he isn’t a top player. I’ve seen lots of kids who were capable of playing D1 not make it for different reasons.

So basically the all met qbs are not very good this year. They are not in fact the best qbs in the area. By the way, if you think college coaches care about SATa for football players, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

Grades, SAT’s, height, weight, connections, help from their schools, and overall college marketability all factor into offers. If a kid doesn’t have offers it doesn’t mean he isn’t a top player. I’ve seen lots of kids who were capable of playing D1 not make it for different reasons.

So basically the all met qbs are not very good this year. They are not in fact the best qbs in the area. By the way, if you think college coaches care about SATa for football players, you have no idea what you are talking about.

If they can’t vet through admissions, there is no need for an offer. Yes they care.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

Grades, SAT’s, height, weight, connections, help from their schools, and overall college marketability all factor into offers. If a kid doesn’t have offers it doesn’t mean he isn’t a top player. I’ve seen lots of kids who were capable of playing D1 not make it for different reasons.

So basically the all met qbs are not very good this year. They are not in fact the best qbs in the area. By the way, if you think college coaches care about SATa for football players, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Most schools still do attempt to have some sort of academic standard. Maryland just denied a football player a transfer into the school because they didn't like some of his undergrad courses he took. Michigan is notorious for the admissions department blocking a few transfers each year.

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Are you saying that the all met qbs don’t have offers because they don’t have connections and/or good SAT scores ?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that the all met qbs don’t have offers because they don’t have connections and/or good SAT scores ?

Well the Woodbridge QB put up high numbers. I don’t know if he has offers or not, but the fact that he is undersized could pose a problem for him. I don’t know what his grades or SAT scores are, but if they aren’t good that could be another issue. Coach’s, parents, and school counselors all play a part in getting kids into college as well.

All I was saying, was because a kid doesn’t have offers doesn’t mean he’s not the most deserving of All Met honors.

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Could also be that he never attended any camps. Most offers are going to come after a kid attends a prospect camp or regional combine. The local public school scene is not strong enough to have colleges come through without already knowing who they want to talk about.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are those all met qbs, with nice stats built on running up the score on weak opponents, going next year ?

Answer - no idea. Do they have offers ???

Believe Centreville finished the season with the 2nd most PowerPoints in the state (1st was 6A state champ Oscar Smith)…Not sure of Woodbridge’s schedule, but PowerPoints alone show that the 2nd Team All Met QB didn’t “run up the score on weak opponents”