Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Ah yes Maggie is trying to get him elected. It won’t work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Kate Cox would like a word. The ONLY positive outcome of Roe ending is we are all seeing how limits don’t work and legislators should not be playing dr. A ban, is a ban, is a ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Any proposed national ban won’t control the damage. The GOP proposed a 15-week national ban in 2022 and look what happened. A national ban affects the states that have already determined that abortion will remain legal, and doesn’t help in the states that have already passed bans earlier than 16 weeks. This after the GOP has lied all this time saying all Dobbs will do is “send it back to the states.” Anyone who thinks this is some sort of solution is a moron, so of course this is Trump’s path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Damage control is never letting him near the presidency ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Any proposed national ban won’t control the damage. The GOP proposed a 15-week national ban in 2022 and look what happened. A national ban affects the states that have already determined that abortion will remain legal, and doesn’t help in the states that have already passed bans earlier than 16 weeks. This after the GOP has lied all this time saying all Dobbs will do is “send it back to the states.” Anyone who thinks this is some sort of solution is a moron, so of course this is Trump’s path.

I mean, all the Republicans are equally crap on this issue. They’re all in on the authoritarianism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

"As with many issues, Trump has employed vague, contradictory, and often incomprehensible responses to sidestep taking definitive positions that might alienate a segment of his coalition."
https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/breaking-trump-backs-a-national-abortion?r=9gi2h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

"As with many issues, Trump has employed vague, contradictory, and often incomprehensible responses to sidestep taking definitive positions that might alienate a segment of his coalition."
https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/breaking-trump-backs-a-national-abortion?r=9gi2h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Oh please. Vague, incomprehensible and contradictory is alienating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Kate Cox would like a word. The ONLY positive outcome of Roe ending is we are all seeing how limits don’t work and legislators should not be playing dr. A ban, is a ban, is a ban.

Also =- a 16 week ban doesn't mean it's LEGAL until 16 weeks. States can still restrict however they want. Those 6 week bans aren't going anywhere. It just means you can't get an abortion after 16 weeks. How is that even a compromise?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Recrue Media stalked women's phones with anti-abortion ads after they visited 600+ family planning clinics across US in 2020.

Badgered them on Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram etc.

Letter from Senator Ron Wyden calls for an SEC investigation.

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/signed_near_letter_to_ftc_and_sec.pdf

Glad they’re not taking it to the courts. That little newt John Roberts would say this is just a first amendment expression and these women have to shut up and take what the forced birthers dish out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Kate Cox would like a word. The ONLY positive outcome of Roe ending is we are all seeing how limits don’t work and legislators should not be playing dr. A ban, is a ban, is a ban.

Also =- a 16 week ban doesn't mean it's LEGAL until 16 weeks. States can still restrict however they want. Those 6 week bans aren't going anywhere. It just means you can't get an abortion after 16 weeks. How is that even a compromise?!

It’s not and they know it. The forced birthers can’t grasp how unpopular their politics of oppression and hatred are.

Keep going, Republicans. This is a winning issue for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

Kate Cox would like a word. The ONLY positive outcome of Roe ending is we are all seeing how limits don’t work and legislators should not be playing dr. A ban, is a ban, is a ban.

Also =- a 16 week ban doesn't mean it's LEGAL until 16 weeks. States can still restrict however they want. Those 6 week bans aren't going anywhere. It just means you can't get an abortion after 16 weeks. How is that even a compromise?!

Because some people are stupid. A 16 week national ban just means states that have abortion up to viability would have stricter limits while state with 6 week bans keep that.

With Roe/Dobbs gone the state laws trump federal (no pun intended).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

While his allies are plotting to use the Comstock Act and other measures to essentially ban all abortions from conception. Next they’ll go after birth control, you can take that to the bank.

Also they won’t give exceptions for rape or incest. They’ll make 12 year olds carry their rapist’s baby to term.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/trump-allies-abortion-restrictions.html

Behind the scenes, specific anti-abortion plans being proposed by Mr. Trump’s allies are sweeping and legally sophisticated. Some of their proposals would rely on enforcing the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to criminalize the shipping of any materials used in an abortion — including abortion pills, which account for the majority of abortions in America.

“We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” said Jonathan F. Mitchell, the legal force behind a 2021 Texas law that found a way to effectively ban abortion in the state before Roe v. Wade was overturned. “There’s a smorgasbord of options.”

“I hope he doesn’t know about the existence of Comstock, because I just don’t want him to shoot off his mouth,” Mr. Mitchell said of Mr. Trump. “I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut as much as possible until the election.”

Policies under consideration include banning the use of fetal stem cells in medical research for diseases like cancer, rescinding approval of abortion pills at the F.D.A. and stopping hundreds of millions in federal funding for Planned Parenthood. Such an action against Planned Parenthood would cripple the nation’s largest provider of women’s health care, which is already struggling to provide abortions in the post-Roe era.

The organizations and advocates crafting these proposals are not simply outside groups expressing wish lists of what they hope Mr. Trump would do in a second administration. They are people who have spent much of their professional careers fighting abortion rights, including some who were in powerful positions during Mr. Trump’s administration.

The plan also cites the statute number in a footnote justifying its recommendation that the F.D.A. stop “promoting or approving mail-order abortions in violation of longstanding federal laws that prohibit the mailing and interstate carriage of abortion drugs.”

Students for Life, an anti-abortion group, is not actively pushing Mr. Trump for a gestational ban, at any number of weeks. The group is instead focused on executive actions and changing policies though federal agencies, which they view as both more effective and more politically achievable. “This is probably the first election where D.O.J., H.H.S., F.D.A. are big-ticket items,” said Kristi Hamrick, a strategist for the group.

The Comstock Act made it a federal crime to send or deliver “obscene, lewd or lascivious” material through the mail or by other carriers, specifically including items used for abortion or birth control. The 1973 ruling in Roe, which recognized a federal right to an abortion, largely relegated the law to constitutional history.

Beyond reactivating the Comstock Act, conservatives believe they can roll back much of what the Biden administration has done to try to protect abortion rights. One example is a plan to eliminate guidance from the Biden administration requiring federally funded hospitals to perform lifesaving abortions, even in the 16 states with near-total bans. They also float ideas about how the Justice Department could direct U.S. attorneys not to prosecute people who violate laws prohibiting the obstruction of clinic entrances.

Republican gains in the courts could help lock in their goals. Many executive actions are undone or redone when a new administration takes power. But former officials, including Mr. Severino, are hopeful that the Supreme Court will rule soon to eliminate the Chevron deference, which he said could allow regulations they enact to remain in place even if a Democratic president were elected in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

While his allies are plotting to use the Comstock Act and other measures to essentially ban all abortions from conception. Next they’ll go after birth control, you can take that to the bank.

Also they won’t give exceptions for rape or incest. They’ll make 12 year olds carry their rapist’s baby to term.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/trump-allies-abortion-restrictions.html

Behind the scenes, specific anti-abortion plans being proposed by Mr. Trump’s allies are sweeping and legally sophisticated. Some of their proposals would rely on enforcing the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to criminalize the shipping of any materials used in an abortion — including abortion pills, which account for the majority of abortions in America.

“We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” said Jonathan F. Mitchell, the legal force behind a 2021 Texas law that found a way to effectively ban abortion in the state before Roe v. Wade was overturned. “There’s a smorgasbord of options.”

“I hope he doesn’t know about the existence of Comstock, because I just don’t want him to shoot off his mouth,” Mr. Mitchell said of Mr. Trump. “I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut as much as possible until the election.”

Policies under consideration include banning the use of fetal stem cells in medical research for diseases like cancer, rescinding approval of abortion pills at the F.D.A. and stopping hundreds of millions in federal funding for Planned Parenthood. Such an action against Planned Parenthood would cripple the nation’s largest provider of women’s health care, which is already struggling to provide abortions in the post-Roe era.

The organizations and advocates crafting these proposals are not simply outside groups expressing wish lists of what they hope Mr. Trump would do in a second administration. They are people who have spent much of their professional careers fighting abortion rights, including some who were in powerful positions during Mr. Trump’s administration.

The plan also cites the statute number in a footnote justifying its recommendation that the F.D.A. stop “promoting or approving mail-order abortions in violation of longstanding federal laws that prohibit the mailing and interstate carriage of abortion drugs.”

Students for Life, an anti-abortion group, is not actively pushing Mr. Trump for a gestational ban, at any number of weeks. The group is instead focused on executive actions and changing policies though federal agencies, which they view as both more effective and more politically achievable. “This is probably the first election where D.O.J., H.H.S., F.D.A. are big-ticket items,” said Kristi Hamrick, a strategist for the group.

The Comstock Act made it a federal crime to send or deliver “obscene, lewd or lascivious” material through the mail or by other carriers, specifically including items used for abortion or birth control. The 1973 ruling in Roe, which recognized a federal right to an abortion, largely relegated the law to constitutional history.

Beyond reactivating the Comstock Act, conservatives believe they can roll back much of what the Biden administration has done to try to protect abortion rights. One example is a plan to eliminate guidance from the Biden administration requiring federally funded hospitals to perform lifesaving abortions, even in the 16 states with near-total bans. They also float ideas about how the Justice Department could direct U.S. attorneys not to prosecute people who violate laws prohibiting the obstruction of clinic entrances.

Republican gains in the courts could help lock in their goals. Many executive actions are undone or redone when a new administration takes power. But former officials, including Mr. Severino, are hopeful that the Supreme Court will rule soon to eliminate the Chevron deference, which he said could allow regulations they enact to remain in place even if a Democratic president were elected in the future.

This needs to be front page news and Dems need to be talking about it every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is said to favor 16-week ban. Trying to do damage control.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V00.rTB8.OskpvDdgO4IV&smid=url-share

While his allies are plotting to use the Comstock Act and other measures to essentially ban all abortions from conception. Next they’ll go after birth control, you can take that to the bank.

Also they won’t give exceptions for rape or incest. They’ll make 12 year olds carry their rapist’s baby to term.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/trump-allies-abortion-restrictions.html

Behind the scenes, specific anti-abortion plans being proposed by Mr. Trump’s allies are sweeping and legally sophisticated. Some of their proposals would rely on enforcing the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to criminalize the shipping of any materials used in an abortion — including abortion pills, which account for the majority of abortions in America.

“We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” said Jonathan F. Mitchell, the legal force behind a 2021 Texas law that found a way to effectively ban abortion in the state before Roe v. Wade was overturned. “There’s a smorgasbord of options.”

“I hope he doesn’t know about the existence of Comstock, because I just don’t want him to shoot off his mouth,” Mr. Mitchell said of Mr. Trump. “I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut as much as possible until the election.”

Policies under consideration include banning the use of fetal stem cells in medical research for diseases like cancer, rescinding approval of abortion pills at the F.D.A. and stopping hundreds of millions in federal funding for Planned Parenthood. Such an action against Planned Parenthood would cripple the nation’s largest provider of women’s health care, which is already struggling to provide abortions in the post-Roe era.

The organizations and advocates crafting these proposals are not simply outside groups expressing wish lists of what they hope Mr. Trump would do in a second administration. They are people who have spent much of their professional careers fighting abortion rights, including some who were in powerful positions during Mr. Trump’s administration.

The plan also cites the statute number in a footnote justifying its recommendation that the F.D.A. stop “promoting or approving mail-order abortions in violation of longstanding federal laws that prohibit the mailing and interstate carriage of abortion drugs.”

Students for Life, an anti-abortion group, is not actively pushing Mr. Trump for a gestational ban, at any number of weeks. The group is instead focused on executive actions and changing policies though federal agencies, which they view as both more effective and more politically achievable. “This is probably the first election where D.O.J., H.H.S., F.D.A. are big-ticket items,” said Kristi Hamrick, a strategist for the group.

The Comstock Act made it a federal crime to send or deliver “obscene, lewd or lascivious” material through the mail or by other carriers, specifically including items used for abortion or birth control. The 1973 ruling in Roe, which recognized a federal right to an abortion, largely relegated the law to constitutional history.

Beyond reactivating the Comstock Act, conservatives believe they can roll back much of what the Biden administration has done to try to protect abortion rights. One example is a plan to eliminate guidance from the Biden administration requiring federally funded hospitals to perform lifesaving abortions, even in the 16 states with near-total bans. They also float ideas about how the Justice Department could direct U.S. attorneys not to prosecute people who violate laws prohibiting the obstruction of clinic entrances.

Republican gains in the courts could help lock in their goals. Many executive actions are undone or redone when a new administration takes power. But former officials, including Mr. Severino, are hopeful that the Supreme Court will rule soon to eliminate the Chevron deference, which he said could allow regulations they enact to remain in place even if a Democratic president were elected in the future.

All I can say is if these people succeed I hope they personally feel the consequences of their actions in the most painful and tragic of ways.