This isn't that. This is an issue that goes all the way back to Obama vs. Romney. It's not about moving the market on a given day. Dems have introduced legislation on this multiple times. The last was 2019. |
I would love to be a fly in the hair of a hedge funder today. I can just imagine the conversations they are having. |
I suppose so, if by "deceit" you mean purchasing stock through the usual channels available to a small investor. If the market is only supposed to work for hedge funds, and if the risk they supposedly take on their bets isn't risk at all, but rather sitting in grandma's living room sipping on hot cocoa and knowing nobody else can get in, then yes, maybe your take is accurate. |
And with shares trading in the single digits there was no barrier to entry to retail buyers. STUPID, GREEDY. Got Juked. |
Half of them turned a profit off of this. They are happy that you didn't notice. |
I still enjoy Musk’s tweet. Tesla will make fabulous short shorts in radiant red satin with gold trim,” he tweeted, announcing a limited edition garment from the electric carmaker. “Will send some to the Shortseller Enrichment Commission to comfort them through these difficult times.” |
Really, I'm sure Elon Musk's hatred for the SEC is honest. Oh wait.. "Elon Musk will step down as Tesla chairman to settle fraud charges brought by the U.S. over claims he made saying he’d take his company private. As part of Musk’s settlement, both Tesla and Musk will each pay a $20 million fine — and Musk can stay on as CEO, the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) announced Saturday." |
Sorry if it’s buried here or on the money forum, but regarding the hf losses: whose money is invested and lost?
I’m happy for the Reddit folks and believe it’s perfect timing during a pandemic for a redistribution of wealth. I can’t understand those here who think they’ve done something wrong by playing with the same system the hf uses. So what am I missing? Are there middle class hedge investors who are going to lose their homes? Whose money was risked and “destroyed?” |
You are missing that the main transfer of wealth will be between the people who get out early, and the people who get in late. |
Your math is off. The redditors have made a couple billion (and some will lose). The HFs have lost $19b on Gamestop shorts. It's not exactly a transfer of wealth. It's a destruction of wealth. With some collateral benefits and damage. |
No. Melvin Capital was completely funded before it was even announced. Hedge funds won't accept small money levels of investment. |
But without being concerned about the Reddit people (some will win big; hopefully none will lose huge), for as the Hedge Funds - again, whose money was it? I think of it as artificial un-real money, but now that it’s been lost, who specifically are the losers? |
DP. Hedge funds investors are institutions and wealthy people. It's real money from big players. |