Walls Versus DCI

[Anonymous]

DCI is as good of a middle school you're gonna get outside of Deal and as good of a high school you're gonna get outside of J-R and Walls and maybe -- maybe -- Banneker. But let's be honest: none is all that great. Walls is probably closest to great, although there are plenty of high schools in the suburbs of the DMV that are as good or better. J-R and DCI are, at best, average compared to anything offered in Arlington, Fairfax, Montgomery etc. And J-R is really no better than Alexandria City High School either.

[Anonymous]

US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

If you only look at the high performing kids at any school it looks amazing. I have a kid at DCI and think its ok. Kids spend too much time on screens and the classroom management is pretty bad in a lot of classes. DCPS teachers are better trained (and better paid) so I don't think DCI will ever be comprable to Walls or Banneker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

Latin doesn't select out everyone, and yet manages to do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

That is certainly true. Yet one difference is that at an application school, all the classes are grade-level plus. It's a different experience for the student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

That is certainly true. Yet one difference is that at an application school, all the classes are grade-level plus. It's a different experience for the student.

1/3rd of the kids at Walls are below grade level, and I hear the school is offering remedial math classes so if true, no not all classes are grade level or higher. The academic caliber of students have fallen which is not surprising with recent changes in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

That is certainly true. Yet one difference is that at an application school, all the classes are grade-level plus. It's a different experience for the student.

1/3rd of the kids at Walls are below grade level, and I hear the school is offering remedial math classes so if true, no not all classes are grade level or higher. The academic caliber of students have fallen which is not surprising with recent changes in admissions.

Data to support this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

That is certainly true. Yet one difference is that at an application school, all the classes are grade-level plus. It's a different experience for the student.

1/3rd of the kids at Walls are below grade level, and I hear the school is offering remedial math classes so if true, no not all classes are grade level or higher. The academic caliber of students have fallen which is not surprising with recent changes in admissions.

Data to support this?

2/3 of Walls kids scored a 4 or 5 on CAPE on 2023-2024 scores. So 1/3 scored a 3 or below, with 3 being below grade level.

It's the highest in DCPS and probably higher than all the charter schools except Basis. (I'm not going to dig up the data.)

[Anonymous]

^^ Math scores. ELA is higher. Fewer kids at Walls take CAPE Math than ELA because once they've passed geometry, they don't take it, or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Well if you go to DC school report card, you can actually see the breakdown of percentages scoring 3, 4, and 5.

Yes, Walls has about 32% kids total scoring 1,2, and 3 on math - all below grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well if you go to DC school report card, you can actually see the breakdown of percentages scoring 3, 4, and 5.

Yes, Walls has about 32% kids total scoring 1,2, and 3 on math - all below grade level.

Which high schools do better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

Latin doesn't select out everyone, and yet manages to do better.

One quarter of kids at Latin get the equity preference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US News rankings of best public / charter schools in the DMV (213 total schools):

2. Walls
3. Banneker
16. BASIS DC
26. DCI
32. McKinley Tech
36. Latin DC
37. Duke Ellington
42. J-R

DCI seems fine

But if we look at the original post (walls versus DCI) this isn’t great for DCI. 2nd is amazing. 26th is not.

Well if you self select out everyone but the high performing kids at DCI like Walls, Banneker, and Basis does, DCI would be right up there.

That is how you need to look at things for it to be comparable.

A more accurate statement would be DCI is the best all around non-selective middle and high school in the city.

Weird standard. No one would think about colleges this way.