It proved there's a massive, organized resistance. Millions of people are willing to risk standing up to a wanna be dictator. What do you think should happen instead? |
It will make it a lot easier to activate a general strike that could actually force some changes. |
I just question whether it actually changes anything that's currently planned by this administration. Scenario....ICE raids continue. Sure, peacefully protest. But if a protestor actually obstructs an ICE raid officer...what then? I just don't think a protest is going to stop ICE raids from happening. National Guard/Military being brought in to support ICE officers. Remember....assaulting an ICE officer is illegal and considered a federal crime. Specifically, it's a federal felony to assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with a federal law enforcement officer, including ICE officers, while they are engaged in their official duties. Again, peaceful protests (such as the the "no king" ones) are all well and good. But you truly cannot prevent an ICE raid without risking arrest for a federal crime. That's my point. Protests are all well and good, but I honestly do not see ICE raids slowing down or stopping. But maybe I'll be proved wrong. |
ICE detaining Americans is also illegal. If the president can flaunt laws, then we become lawless. |
Actually, no that's not "illegal". https://tingen.law/blog/immigration-1/can-ice-detain-u-s-citizens-331 |
Protests are great, but effing VOTE!!!
Vote them out! |
Why not both? |
Yes, it is. ICE deals specifically with immigration and immigrants. It is wholly illegal for ICE to detain American citizens. They can make mistakes so they would have to allow counsel so you can prove your citizenship. Hence the whole due process thing. But they are not police or other law enforcement officials that deal with regular legal enforcement. |
An ICE officer can detain a US citizen based on "probable cause" which can then be disputed in the courts. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-rules-in-favor-of-u-s-citizen-illegally-detained-for-deportation-by-florida-sheriff No, it's not fair. But if an ICE agent (whether right or wrong) believes they have probable cause to detain someone (whether a US Citizen, Green Card Holder, or actual illegal immigrant)...the burden of proof falls to the detainee and the courts. In the case above, the courts ruled in favor of the US Citizen. However, I'm fairly certain that nothing happening to the ICE agent who conducted the original detention..aside from perhaps a slap on the wrist from his supervisor. |
If there were a dictator, then this rally could not have happened. |
Reading is hard for you? The point is to show we do not approve of the slow encroachment on rights that would lead to him being a dictator. |
You can do both, but voting is what counts. |
You are stupid. You NAGA? |
No it didn't lol. You got a lot of people to show up and wave some signs. You didn't resist anything. Everything you protested against will continue, unobstructed and entirely unaffected by these peotests. Getting people to show up and wave a sign around on a Saturday is very very different from actively resisting anything. You guys got a lot of nice pictures and made Trump sad. That's it. |
HAHA. Sore loser. Our party was HUGE and everyone, everywhere, in every state wanted to go -- Went! I am sorry people were too embarrassed (or disgusted) to go to Trump's birthday bash. |