Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"?

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Anonymous wrote:I know a bunch of people who go to church. But they never say they believe in God. They only say they're "spiritual." I guess that's the new acceptable terminology.

What that is in my opinion are people who enjoy the ritual and the cultural legacy, and like to believe there is something greater, and an after life, but our smart enough to not believe in myths as fact. And before anybody goes ballistic, I’m talking about all myths not just the one the person reading this happens to believe in.

Zeus is a myth!

Your opinion is wrong, I know "spiritual" people too. They're just afraid to tell you they believe because they know you'll go ham on them in the rudest possible way.

Great. You’re free to think what you think and I am free to think what I think, and we’re both free to state those opinions here and then open forum.

At least that’s the way it should be. But that’s not the way you want it I bet.

You're not free to be deliberately offensive, what a nasty notion.

I’m not free to think the opposite of what you think? The opposite of what you think is inherently offensive?

That’s such hypocrisy I don’t even know how to respond to it

Are you trolling now? Multiple people have told you that you're free to think whatever the heck you want.

Your BEHAVIOR is the issue here. And the fact that you're trolling.

I am free to think what I want? Great. Thanks. I think all gods are myths.

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And we think you two are rude jerks.

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

OMG, DP just confronted an atheist without provocation!

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

True, we do agree on that - but other than the passage of time, I mean those civilizations are no longer around, there's really no difference

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

I wouldn't go up to someone I know is a true believer (and many of them are quite decent folks) and say your god is a myth. I agree that's just rude.

But some good theological conversations can be had with even with preachers, rabbis, pastors - intelligent people who went to seminary or equivalent and know what they're talking about -- and even occasionally (rarely) someone on the internet like DCUM religion forum - who can explain why there's any reason these ancient stories are deemed myths by the God in the OT isn't. C'mon, they're all creations of humans

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

I wouldn't go up to someone I know is a true believer (and many of them are quite decent folks) and say your god is a myth. I agree that's just rude.

But some good theological conversations can be had with even with preachers, rabbis, pastors - intelligent people who went to seminary or equivalent and know what they're talking about -- and even occasionally (rarely) someone on the internet like DCUM religion forum - who can explain why there's any reason these ancient stories are deemed myths by the God in the OT isn't. C'mon, they're all creations of humans

*but the

[Anonymous]

Atheist editor here. Just for everyone’s information— someone (probably OP) has impersonated me at least twice in the last 48 hours on this thread. I posted to the same reported those posts and all related posts were promptly deleted.

To avoid any confusion and to make OP’s continued sock-puppeting more obvious, this is my last post in the thread. Any further claims to be me will be … wait for it … posts in bad faith. Shocking that OP would behave that way, I know. /s

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

But I have not "met" anyone here, and have no idea what people believe or who is looking. That's a bad metaphor. This is an open forum. Do you know what that means?

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Anonymous wrote:Atheist editor here. Just for everyone’s information— someone (probably OP) has impersonated me at least twice in the last 48 hours on this thread. I posted to the same reported those posts and all related posts were promptly deleted.

To avoid any confusion and to make OP’s continued sock-puppeting more obvious, this is my last post in the thread. Any further claims to be me will be … wait for it … posts in bad faith. Shocking that OP would behave that way, I know. /s

+1. I too have been impersonated at least twice after arguing with the two atheists pushing "god is a myth." I pointed it out on the thread instead of reporting them, which was probably the better idea, because now I'd have to spend a lot of time going back to find the impersonations and I'm not going to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

But I have not "met" anyone here, and have no idea what people believe or who is looking. That's a bad metaphor. This is an open forum. Do you know what that means?

Tell us you're hiding behind anonymity without telling us you're hiding behind anonymity.

Seriously? You think good behavior varies with the platform?

Case in point. You atheists whine constantly that DCUM strangers insult atheists (their behavior, not atheism per se, but that's a digression). What makes you think it's fine to do the same to others?

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

So it's based on the number of believers (since it was shown earlier plenty of people still believe in those pagan gods). What is the number,. exactly, up to where people can call it a myth?

DP. No, it’s based on aggressively confronting people who believe in any faith to tell them their God is a myth.

If you meet someone who believes in Zeus and you tell them their belief is a crock, that’s nasty too.

And the same, I should add, for anybody who confronts an atheist without provocation.

It’s called being a decent human being. You should try it.

I wouldn't go up to someone I know is a true believer (and many of them are quite decent folks) and say your god is a myth. I agree that's just rude.

But some good theological conversations can be had with even with preachers, rabbis, pastors - intelligent people who went to seminary or equivalent and know what they're talking about -- and even occasionally (rarely) someone on the internet like DCUM religion forum - who can explain why there's any reason these ancient stories are deemed myths by the God in the OT isn't. C'mon, they're all creations of humans

I agree these conversations can be really interesting. I'm all for thoughtful, respectful discussions between members of different religions, and between people of faith and atheists.

We're not talking about discussions with your neighbor's priest over a glass of wine at a BBQ, though.

We're talking about DCUM's two atheists who enter threads about religion ("Feeling Disconnected From God") to tell the OP her God is a myth. And who are basically trolls and impersonators, but that's a different topic.