FYI: Indiana withdrawing from Common Core standards

[Anonymous]

#1

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana on Monday became the first state to formally withdraw from the Common Core education standards in a move that did little to appease critics of the national program, who contend the state is simply stripping the "Common Core" label while largely keeping the benchmarks.

http://news.yahoo.com/indiana-withdrawing-common-core-standards-184000011--politics.html

#2

FYI: Common Core Math problem.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/24/youve-just-got-to-see-what-a-frustrated-parent-wrote-on-their-childs-common-core-math-assignment/

[Anonymous]

Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

What it is, is NOT a Common Core math problem.

The Common Core is standards. It's not a curriculum. It's not worksheets. It's standards. At the end of third grade, students should be able to [whatever]. That's it.

If somebody wrote a worksheet, that doesn't make it a Common Core worksheet.

(Also, the guy with the B.S. in EE should be embarrassed. This is not a difficult problem.

Dear Jack,

What you did right was subtract the hundreds on the number line. What you did wrong was subtract seven tens instead of one ten and six ones. To fix your mistake, you should subtract one ten and six ones.

Sincerely,

Student)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

The concept of the question doesn't bother me. It's trying to get the kid to understand that subtracting 316 is the same as subtracting 300, then 10 and then 6. It's trying to teach number sense. Kids can learn to grind through algorithms w/o really understanding what they're doing. This problem clearly shows that the kid forgot to subtract at the 10s place. Doesn't surprise me that an engineer is complaining; all they want is their formulas to crunch.

[Anonymous]

^^^also, given the state of politics in Indiana these days, my feeling is: if the state of Indiana is against it, I'm probably for it.

[Anonymous]

CONMON CORE IS A SET OF STANDARDS IT IS NOT A CURRICULUM !!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

What it is, is NOT a Common Core math problem.

The Common Core is standards. It's not a curriculum. It's not worksheets. It's standards. At the end of third grade, students should be able to [whatever]. That's it.

If somebody wrote a worksheet, that doesn't make it a Common Core worksheet.

(Also, the guy with the B.S. in EE should be embarrassed. This is not a difficult problem.

Dear Jack,

What you did right was subtract the hundreds on the number line. What you did wrong was subtract seven tens instead of one ten and six ones. To fix your mistake, you should subtract one ten and six ones.

Sincerely,

Student)

Excellent! The "Frustrated parent is an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Common Core has become a political football, but it hasn't helped DCPS improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

What it is, is NOT a Common Core math problem.

The Common Core is standards. It's not a curriculum. It's not worksheets. It's standards. At the end of third grade, students should be able to [whatever]. That's it.

If somebody wrote a worksheet, that doesn't make it a Common Core worksheet.

(Also, the guy with the B.S. in EE should be embarrassed. This is not a difficult problem.

Dear Jack,

What you did right was subtract the hundreds on the number line. What you did wrong was subtract seven tens instead of one ten and six ones. To fix your mistake, you should subtract one ten and six ones.

Sincerely,

Student)

TO be fair, the worksheet that that teacher designed also included incorrect subtraction of the 10s. The smaller jumps (that are supposed to represent taking away 10s) start at 127 and the student "Jack" was supposed to take away 10 each time... but his first jump, he took away 20 for some inexplicable reason, so he labeled the first jump back 107 (instead of 117). I think that fact is (a) too confusing for a 3rd grader to deal with on this type of worksheet and (b) is part of what totally confused parents on this worksheet.

At any rate -- this worksheet ISN'T a "Common Core" worksheet. Common Core doesn't have a way you have to teach math. It just says kids need to be able to add, subtract, have fluency in calculations etc. but a certain grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:#1

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana on Monday became the first state to formally withdraw from the Common Core education standards in a move that did little to appease critics of the national program, who contend the state is simply stripping the "Common Core" label while largely keeping the benchmarks.

http://news.yahoo.com/indiana-withdrawing-common-core-standards-184000011--politics.html

from your link:

The draft for those standards, put out for review last month, has already drawn skepticism from Common Core critics, including an analyst hired by Pence to assess the new program. That analyst, retired University of Arkansas professor Sandra Stotsky, says the proposal is just too similar to Common Core.

Stotsky released an internal Indiana Department of Education report that found that more than 70 percent of the standards for sixth through 12th grade are directly from Common Core, and about 20 percent are edited versions of the national standards. About 34 percent of English standards for kindergarten through fifth grade were taken straight from the national standards, and an additional 13 percent were edited.

So for grades 6-12, Indiana liked 90% of the Common Core Standards. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

What it is, is NOT a Common Core math problem.

The Common Core is standards. It's not a curriculum. It's not worksheets. It's standards. At the end of third grade, students should be able to [whatever]. That's it.

If somebody wrote a worksheet, that doesn't make it a Common Core worksheet.

(Also, the guy with the B.S. in EE should be embarrassed. This is not a difficult problem.

Dear Jack,

What you did right was subtract the hundreds on the number line. What you did wrong was subtract seven tens instead of one ten and six ones. To fix your mistake, you should subtract one ten and six ones.

Sincerely,

Student)

TO be fair, the worksheet that that teacher designed also included incorrect subtraction of the 10s. The smaller jumps (that are supposed to represent taking away 10s) start at 127 and the student "Jack" was supposed to take away 10 each time... but his first jump, he took away 20 for some inexplicable reason, so he labeled the first jump back 107 (instead of 117). I think that fact is (a) too confusing for a 3rd grader to deal with on this type of worksheet and (b) is part of what totally confused parents on this worksheet.

At any rate -- this worksheet ISN'T a "Common Core" worksheet. Common Core doesn't have a way you have to teach math. It just says kids need to be able to add, subtract, have fluency in calculations etc. but a certain grade.

Actually I don't think that was on the original worksheet. That was the "highly educated in higher math" parent's flailing attempts to solve it. The numbers on the worksheet clearly show that the person doing the original work subtracted three 100s and then 6 ones, skipping the 10s. I.e. 427 - 327 - 227 - 127 - 121. The parent is an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CONMON CORE IS A SET OF STANDARDS IT IS NOT A CURRICULUM !!!!!!!!

Right. But there are for profit companies who've glommed themselves into the standards process to create curriculum and testing. Which sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow - if that problem on the top of the paper is comon core - we are all in trouble - what the hell is that?

The concept of the question doesn't bother me. It's trying to get the kid to understand that subtracting 316 is the same as subtracting 300, then 10 and then 6. It's trying to teach number sense. Kids can learn to grind through algorithms w/o really understanding what they're doing. This problem clearly shows that the kid forgot to subtract at the 10s place. Doesn't surprise me that an engineer is complaining; all they want is their formulas to crunch.

yes - agree 100%

How many of us simply learned "how to" without understanding the process behind it?

It's really pathetic to read about "educated" parents with no number sense.

And yes, they are STANDARDS. The standards are then turned into instructional frameworks. The frameworks are umbrellas for the curriculum guides, which vary from state to state and from county to county.

20:09, you're an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CONMON CORE IS A SET OF STANDARDS IT IS NOT A CURRICULUM !!!!!!!!

Right. But there are for profit companies who've glommed themselves into the standards process to create curriculum and testing. Which sucks.

You're right.

But good teachers understand how to scaffold learning w/o relying on those canned lessons. Furthermore, they also understand that the guides created by content specialists in their own systems are just that - guides. So they "get" that it is their right to tailor the learning to fit the needs of their students. Now, they are indeed responsible for working those standards into their yearly planning, which is difficult if you're not masterful at differentiating.

[Anonymous]

If you are using a number line to subtract 3 digit numbers from 3 digit numbers. something is wrong. KISS is my motto.