Kate's New Picture

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Easiest explanation is that William wants out of the marriage and Catherine is not cooperating with his plans. The related stress of the marital strife induced a medical incident for Catherine.

I think this is the core of what's happening right now. It would perfectly explain the communications meltdown happening in KP over the past few weeks + the changing tone toward Catherine in the UK media.

Everything else - Rose Hanbury/cheating, DV, pregnancy/abortion, school choice for George, comas - are unverifiable rumors or silly conspiracy theories. I wish this thread would stay away from this crap, it's dumb noise.

The core issue is that the marriage is on the verge of complete breakdown and Catherine is on the outs. And this is absolutely within the realm of possibility in the highly dysfunctional Windsor family. The Palace was similarly dysfunctional when Diana and Charles were breaking down.

If William does divorce Catherine, I will feel bad for little George - no one will want to marry him. What woman would possibly sign up to be the 3rd generation jilted wife of the future monarch?

-DCUM Nostradamus

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Anonymous wrote:They are very reluctant to respond to conspiracy theories. Otherwise they would be doing this all day long.

lmao the photo is a conspiracy KP created themselves. Not owning and just continuing to lie about it is shameful.

The PALACE are the biggest c-o-n-spirators of all! They faked the moon landing. They killed Lady Di! (literally posted pages back by, I must assume, an ER doc with some free time who noted that Diana was alive when transported to the hospital and then DIED which is clearly hella sus). They denied life-saving counseling to a beautiful hunted Duchess with the greatest podcast in the history of spoken word! They threw random giant trees into photographs announcing the imminent birth of baby QEIII!

Shameful. So shameful.

I don't understand the point of this comment when KP DID create this photo?

Yes, no one creates photos or alters them but KP. I thought that was clear?

Does everyone else have their pics pulled by AP and other agencies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Easiest explanation is that William wants out of the marriage and Catherine is not cooperating with his plans. The related stress of the marital strife induced a medical incident for Catherine.

I think this is the core of what's happening right now. It would perfectly explain the communications meltdown happening in KP over the past few weeks + the changing tone toward Catherine in the UK media.

Everything else - Rose Hanbury/cheating, DV, pregnancy/abortion, school choice for George, comas - are unverifiable rumors or silly conspiracy theories. I wish this thread would stay away from this crap, it's dumb noise.

The core issue is that the marriage is on the verge of complete breakdown and Catherine is on the outs. And this is absolutely within the realm of possibility in the highly dysfunctional Windsor family. The Palace was similarly dysfunctional when Diana and Charles were breaking down.

If William does divorce Catherine, I will feel bad for little George - no one will want to marry him. What woman would possibly sign up to be the 3rd generation jilted wife of the future monarch?

-DCUM Nostradamus

The wives of Henry VIII beg to differ.

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Anonymous wrote:Say you’re Charles. How would you be advising William right now on this publicity matter?

Charles wants both of them to be invisible. He is very conscious of (jealous of) his status and does not want them to encroach.

Nope. Charles’ PR team has publicly called for KP to be more transparent on this issue

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I'm confused. Kate had surgery, is recovering, and William took a photo of her with their kids. She edited it, probably because she didn't like the way she looked.

Why are there conspiracy theories about this?

People have medical issues. They get surgery. They probably don't look their best for awhile afterwards.

What am I missing?

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Anonymous wrote:Say you’re Charles. How would you be advising William right now on this publicity matter?

Charles wants both of them to be invisible. He is very conscious of (jealous of) his status and does not want them to encroach.

Nope. Charles’ PR team has publicly called for KP to be more transparent on this issue

Well sure. Kate has upstaged him. He wants the world to stop worrying about her and go back to thinking about him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Easiest explanation is that William wants out of the marriage and Catherine is not cooperating with his plans. The related stress of the marital strife induced a medical incident for Catherine.

I think this is the core of what's happening right now. It would perfectly explain the communications meltdown happening in KP over the past few weeks + the changing tone toward Catherine in the UK media.

Everything else - Rose Hanbury/cheating, DV, pregnancy/abortion, school choice for George, comas - are unverifiable rumors or silly conspiracy theories. I wish this thread would stay away from this crap, it's dumb noise.

The core issue is that the marriage is on the verge of complete breakdown and Catherine is on the outs. And this is absolutely within the realm of possibility in the highly dysfunctional Windsor family. The Palace was similarly dysfunctional when Diana and Charles were breaking down.

If William does divorce Catherine, I will feel bad for little George - no one will want to marry him. What woman would possibly sign up to be the 3rd generation jilted wife of the future monarch?

-DCUM Nostradamus

I don't have a theory on the reason why or who pulled the plug first but I do agree this is likely the case. it makes sense the boiling point happened around Christmas, she may have gotten sick from the stress, then decided she wasn't working with them anymore.

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I am really curious why her family is so quiet.If she really was recovering, they would have verified that by now, and everyone would believe them. But if she is in danger, why wouldn’t they speak up?

Speak up to whom?

Why, to the rescuers on this thread! Don’t you see how motivated these chicks are to save Kate from William and Camilla and (insert others at whim)?

DP. So your theory is that William actually took a picture a week before Mother’s Day and Kate did some massive photoshopping of hands and clothing from her laptop on her breakfast tray in that bed with the “most expensive sheets you can buy” you were drooling over a few days ago.

Explain to us how this is *better* for Kate and you’re the one “saving” her.

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Anonymous wrote:The doctored pics really are the most troubling aspect. They felt the need to get an image out there, but absolutely could not use a real one for whatever reason. This is suspicious. With all this speculation, they would force her to take a real photo if they could. She would likely want to in order to kill all the rumors and protect her children from them. Even if she does have a puffy face, colostomy bag, or whatever. It could be subtle so tgat they wouldn’t have to refer to this chaos - such as mentioning a current event. She could even send her well wishes to the king in light of his cancer diagnosis.

I am really curious why her family is so quiet.If she really was recovering, they would have verified that by now, and everyone would believe them. But if she is in danger, why wouldn’t they speak up?

Exactly. Kate does respect and honor her role. She would help quell the rumors regardless of how she looks as it's now damaging KP's credibility. She's not willing to work with them so something serious is happening outside of health issues

+2 Even if she doesn't like the way she looks right now, she's not so vain that she'd refuse to cooperate in quelling all these conspiracy theories that make the entire RF look bad. She knows her role and has always played it impeccably.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is wild, but entertaining.

My guess is she looks rough at the moment due to whatever the heck she has been recovering from. Doesn't want to be photographed.

No divorce. She will emerge at easter looking pretty as always.

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This is the obvious answer. As entertaining as this thread may be.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is wild, but entertaining.

My guess is she looks rough at the moment due to whatever the heck she has been recovering from. Doesn't want to be photographed.

No divorce. She will emerge at easter looking pretty as always.

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This is the obvious answer. As entertaining as this thread may be.

girl stop responding to yourself 💀

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Anonymous wrote:They are very reluctant to respond to conspiracy theories. Otherwise they would be doing this all day long.

lmao the photo is a conspiracy KP created themselves. Not owning and just continuing to lie about it is shameful.

It was definitely a misstep, but they apologized and owned it. Why is it so hard to believe that Kate did that?

As many people have pointed out photos gets passed to their staff before its posted. She's not the only one who edits or looks at the photos, yet she's the one that takes the blame. Not only is it not fair but it's clearly a lie.

In every organization, the person at the top approves the final copy. Kate would have seen the photo before it went out.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate signed up for this. She knew he (any future male child) would be sent to eton. There’s no “we’ll discuss this later” in the royal family. I’m not saying I’d ever want my kid there either but dang, she would be acting desperate and immature if this was all about Eton.

I agree.

In the peasant or even DCUM world, it’s like dating a guy whose family has a beach house and spend every Fourth of July there, marrying, then being mad you’ll be expected at the beach in July.

+1 to be expected they would go to boarding school

I think the fact that she signed up for this suggests the Eton theory is wrong. Like someone 100 pages back stated, she seems like she was build in a lab for this life. No way would she throw such a public fit about something totally expected, no matter how displeased she was about it.

She’s allowed to change her mind.

And she didn’t have a little boy of her own then or realize the potential abuses at a boarding school.

She had issues at boarding school herself. So, not naive.

She has no leverage if he wants her out. The tone of her coverage has markedly changed, not a coincidence. He has stopped referring to her at appearances. He has used his solo letterhead. She was thrown under the bus re: the photo that in all likelihood was a set up. She had nothing to do with it and likely does not have access to their social media accounts. It was a dig at her prior competent/asset image and a dig at the hobby she is well known for. Stories painting her as volatile and throwing things started to run last year, portraying them as "equally bad."

Whether it is about a 3rd party or not remains to be seen. He is not even faking being a doting, protective husband at this point.

If there are differences over the kids going forward, he holds the trump cards, especially as her family's wealth has tanked.

All the cries that they can't get divorced when CHARLES is divorced as silly.

This is my line of thinking. As most marital arguments, it's just a symptom of a bigger issue. In this case they aren't on the same page anymore. They had an easy way out by just admitting it was mistake from their staff office. Putting it on Kate sent a nasty message.

My sense is that Charles was kinder and more deferential to Diana re: the children than William will be (in part due to trauma/damage from Diana's mental illness during his childhood, William is not going to share power this round). It's more than the marriage seeming broken, it's that the "machine" is now tarnishing her image actively, despite it being a time when the opposite would be expected by the public out of basic decency while they are claiming she is quite "ill." In fact, she may be.

It's pretty extraordinary, but if you look back there have been more negative stories placed about her for a year or so, very "both sides" (linked upthread or Google) but now she is "unstable" etc. and "wanting out" when she may be being pushed out. She has no power in the situation that I can see. William's lifelong anger may have found a new target. He seems unwilling to just live apart and fake it for PR anymore.

It seems like William and KP's handling Katw was a big shock for a lot of royal journalists too. As someone (maybe you?) said there's been a noticeable shift in the narrative considering Kate now. They aren't looking out for her and now okay with actively harming her image. Not collaborating might be the only way she's able to hold some control.

Actively harming her image? Look at what the dailymail just published:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13191311/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-Kensington-photo.html

Someone needs to say it, it has been pretty shocking. Kate Middleton has been 'thrown under a bus' by 'disgraceful' Kensington officials and 'ungentlemanly' Prince William - who let her take blame for Mother's Day photo blunder, Richard Eden tells Palace Confidential

I think it is most likely that the photogate was a set up as part of the media campaign to damage her image, along with the solo letterhead and not mentioning her at events anymore. It makes William look callous and cold, but they must not care or feel a plot twist yet to come will vindicate his approach?

Guys, guys. Who wants to damage the image of both Kate-the-most-popular and William-the-heir-apparent-and-now-a-cold-and-bad-husband? Hmm?

That may indeed be where it started, but, William is certainly actively adding to that narrative himself both by actions and omissions.

KP has made several statements. You don't want to listen to them. He may continue to make statements that you'll continue to ignore.

Stop speaking for others, you lessen your own credibility.

He chose to stop referring to her at events, despite interest in her well being, and he chose to use his solo letterhead. And there was an official statement blaming her for a photo that she in all likelihood had absolutely nothing to do with.

Actions speak too and the tone of that and statements has clearly changed from + to concerned & deferential to having a go at her.

He could easily even pretend to be a concerned and doting and protective husband, as the narrative used to be spun, for his own image benefit. Yet, that is not happening.

Time will tell.

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Anonymous wrote:Stephen Colbert?

https://x.com/glowannelee/status/1767825264589901955

Kind of shocking how mainstream the William/Rose affair is now

Full disclosure I'm an active follower of R/St Meghan Markle. I thought that general consensus was that the William - Rose affair rumors were started by Meghan in her attempt to make Kate look bad.

Consensus among some know-nothing Reddit denizens, or actual evidence?

Wait so evidence is a thing now? Cool.

Well yeah, and that’s why people are concerned/curious about photogate.

You really are a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is wild, but entertaining.

My guess is she looks rough at the moment due to whatever the heck she has been recovering from. Doesn't want to be photographed.

No divorce. She will emerge at easter looking pretty as always.

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This is the obvious answer. As entertaining as this thread may be.

girl stop responding to yourself 💀

Girrrllll I’m a third poster giving a +1 to a reasonable take. Is that skull emoji you insisting Kate is comadead after her abortion and replaced organ surgeries failed?