DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

The paradox is that those DCU kids are probably the most physical mature for their age which may be why they are playing up.

Regardless, with "professional" training, I would expect my child in any professional academy to develop at 125%-150% of a P2P player in MLS Next. If that is not happening, I am assessing my players work ethic. If they are putting in the work, then I am assessing the training environment.

Keep seeing people parroting what they've heard about the massive sizes of dcu academy players, yet neither in real life nor in photos does this match the urban legend

Keep trying to push this narrative. Everyone knows its BS. Early developers are preferred by DCU. This is a fact. Doesn't mean late developers don't make the cut. Some do. But early developers have a much better chance and we aren't just talking about just height we are taking about muscle development as well.

I'm pretty sure the topic of size isn't a narrative.

Its measurable.
It's only a narrative for people claiming a club has nothing but giants, but no tape measure, scale or photos confirm that

Also, there isn't a single MLS Club academy in the country with a roster of all small players and no big players.
Heck, in our area, only Achilles in MLS Next can make a relatively decent claim of having smaller players on average

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

+1

"My son played up at u12 and dominated so they should play up at u16 and dominate" 😂

Oh. You two are so cute!

I’d “intellectually” argue the opposite. I have seen two types of kids playing up early: 1) physical advantage; 2) head start by training earlier

Both are neutralized by around U15/U16 when kids with better technical practice habits and consistency through U15 overtake both categories. By U15/U16 most boys should be playing pickup with men, a critical mistake high level players in the US avoid. When you combine the nutrition, fitness and tactical expertise of a professional academy with players and coaches who have played/coached professionally versus P2P kids eating ham sandwiches and being coached by former D3 players who earned their A/B license, an academy player should have a significant advantage on a P2P player in order to play up a year by U15/U16 even if they were level earlier at U12.

The purpose of home schooling is “supposed” to enable a player to accumulate more hours than a traditional P2P player thereby accelerating their curve even more.

Get you rocks off from being contrary to be contrary

How about taking the next 10 pages on your own without interruption to repeat yourself at nauseum to get it out your system

With your long and indepth resume, portfolio, first hand personal knowledge and experience at top International clubs and academies

You are so easily triggered by me. I guess intellectual arguing is not acceptable per the previous post. You know my kids accolades and it bothers you so much that we will be escaping purgatory thanks for this board.

Did we miss an earlier announcement of which celebrity parent you are?
Who are your multiple kids with accomplished accolades we're all jealous of?

Sullivans? Aaronsons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

And DCU is sh#t at both individual development and team development.. doesn't matter either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

And DCU is sh#t at both individual development and team development.. doesn't matter either way.

Now that you've said that for the 550th time so eloquently, why don't you focus your positive energies in where you have found success

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

The paradox is that those DCU kids are probably the most physical mature for their age which may be why they are playing up.

Regardless, with "professional" training, I would expect my child in any professional academy to develop at 125%-150% of a P2P player in MLS Next. If that is not happening, I am assessing my players work ethic. If they are putting in the work, then I am assessing the training environment.

Correct. And if you're at DCU and putting in the work and you're still struggling, guess who is the problem...DCU

Yep. No chance at all that your kid just isn’t good enough. Blame it on the rain!

So you're saying DCU has NO blame in the development of the player THEY select??? Right. You are the reason why they are allowed to be so sorry.

Didn't say that at all. But YOU ARE saying "if you're at DCU and putting in the work and you're still struggling, guess who is the problem...DCU"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

And DCU is sh#t at both individual development and team development.. doesn't matter either way.

Now that you've said that for the 550th time so eloquently, why don't you focus your positive energies in where you have found success

I've found success in making you look like a complete rookie in understanding the realities of DCU. That is 💯

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

And DCU is sh#t at both individual development and team development.. doesn't matter either way.

Now that you've said that for the 550th time so eloquently, why don't you focus your positive energies in where you have found success

I've found success in making you look like a complete rookie in understanding the realities of DCU. That is 💯

Pookie wants a sweetie lollipop and a balloon?

[Anonymous]

I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?

p2p clubs give lists of names, dcua invites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?

Like clockwork. Pavlov's dogs.

If your 2012/2013 did not get an invite to SoFive tomorrow, they are just not there yet locally. I broke down the exact methodology on how to know whether your kid is a baller so you don't have to have FOMO on IG about 100 pages ago.

Keep developing your kids game and they will develop into a player any academy wants and you won't be thirsty on IG when these invites are thrown around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:please note. 2010s lost to 2009s and 2011s lost to 2010s. I don't care about how it fits into the argument, but present all the facts.



If this is true, this argument about wins/ losses is stupid.

WRONG. The truly elite talent in our area was, in many instances, already playing up before they came to DCU. The top talent in our area should be completely fine playing a year up against local clubs. The fact that you're saying otherwise shows you know nothing about our area or the talent in our area. Just stick to cutting up the oranges after the game...better use of your time.

I'm not a genius at the soccer thing, but I'm 100% sure based on physicality, there are major differences between playing up U10 vs U11 and U14 vs U15 etc when the puberty scale is considered

Also, the dcua can only have a limited amount of players, that means there are several dcu quality players on regular MLS next teams. Plain numbers issue.

So you have dcu vs similar talent of superior size, age and speed

Same if Achilles U15 played Bethesda U16

The scoreboard is irrelevant if you understand soccer, it's the individual elements broken down for each player in their area under that pressure that matters

But such an intellectual approach argument regarding youth development here is wasted

Too bad we arent talking about u10 or u11 soccer. Because if we were we'd be wasting our time. We are talking about U15 and up soccer and while puberty differences are clearly there from team to team, if you have a technically superior team and they are coached well the results should be there. Why the best academies in the world rarely if ever lose to local teams and they all play up as well in many of these ages. .

How do MLS clubs academies do in the team performance stages of U19, U21, U23 against European and South American clubs?

In case you didn't know, before U19 its all about individual development, not team performance

And DCU is sh#t at both individual development and team development.. doesn't matter either way.

Now that you've said that for the 550th time so eloquently, why don't you focus your positive energies in where you have found success

I've found success in making you look like a complete rookie in understanding the realities of DCU. That is 💯

Pookie wants a sweetie lollipop and a balloon?

That's genuinely the best you've got!? Not a shred of evidence to support DCU as a solid academy and this is the quality of your comebacks?? You're not on my level...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?

After all of this, do you really want one??

The fact that clubs are announcing their players are participating in ID SESSIONS is absolutely absurd and shows how low our area has become in the youth game.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?[/quote]

Like clockwork. Pavlov's dogs.

If your 2012/2013 did not get an invite to SoFive tomorrow, they are just not there yet locally. I broke down the exact methodology on how to know whether your kid is a baller so you don't have to have FOMO on IG about 100 pages ago.

Keep developing your kids game and they will develop into a player any academy wants and you won't be thirsty on IG when these invites are thrown around. [/quote]

Or they are there but just not in the orbit of DCUs scouting which is primarily word of mouth from the bigger clubs...if you're not in a club that has some visibility or connections with DCU it is much harder to get noticed. Just a reality of the situation. It shouldn't be this way but because DCUs scouting is very minimal and they do the basics the net the cast to get players isn't as wide as it should be and good players get left off of identification opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see clubs announcing some u14s (and u13s) participating in DC United ID sessions. how do you get to one? is it for dc partner clubs only?

Like clockwork. Pavlov's dogs.

If your 2012/2013 did not get an invite to SoFive tomorrow, they are just not there yet locally. I broke down the exact methodology on how to know whether your kid is a baller so you don't have to have FOMO on IG about 100 pages ago.

Keep developing your kids game and they will develop into a player any academy wants and you won't be thirsty on IG when these invites are thrown around.

Or they are there but just not in the orbit of DCUs scouting which is primarily word of mouth from the bigger clubs...if you're not in a club that has some visibility or connections with DCU it is much harder to get noticed. Just a reality of the situation. It shouldn't be this way but because DCUs scouting is very minimal and they do the basics the net the cast to get players isn't as wide as it should be and good players get left off of identification opportunities.