If you think your chid is more deserving of AAP b/c he/she got in largely b/c of high test scores...

[Anonymous]

compared to children who get in from parent referrals, appeals, WISC etc. and the latter gets equal or better grades than your child, do you think your child is more deserving of AAP and that your child "NEEDS" AAP more than the other child?

[Anonymous]

No

[Anonymous]

What kind of question is this and why do you care how others got in and what their grades are?

[Anonymous]

Seriously OP? Do you really care whether people who think this REALLY ACTUALLY think it?

I know everyone has cabin fever, but... you really want to ask this?

[Anonymous]

looking for a fight.

[Anonymous]

I actually really appreciate this question because most of the time, what I see at DCUM is the ones who got in via referral (therefore, pushy parents) are not as deserving.
It's good to turn the table around.

It does make me wonder seeing WISC scores in here of kids who were not in the pool but ended up with 132+.

Would it be possible that someone who was in the pool ( who got preped or who got in from one subscore) not even score a 132+ on the WISC?

And I do mention the WISC here since I have also seen that it is the be all end all of all things AAP related (trumps both NNAT and CogAT).

Keep discussing

[Anonymous]

This sort of reminds me of the argument about whether people who wrote on to law review were as smart and deserving as those who just graded on, or if people with lower LSATs but higher law school grades were smarter. IMO, grades and ability to write-on indicate important personal characteristics that do not correlate directly to IQ ... but the people who just blow standardized tests out of the water are STILL smarter and have more brainpower.

Arguably, it is the kids with all the brainpower but perhaps less discipline (probably as a result of their brainpower since they never had to try hard) are the ones who actually NEED a special program like AAP in order to properly develop their work habits and skills.

The ones who appeal in and work diligently and get good grades? Meh, they would probably be just fine anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This sort of reminds me of the argument about whether people who wrote on to law review were as smart and deserving as those who just graded on, or if people with lower LSATs but higher law school grades were smarter. IMO, grades and ability to write-on indicate important personal characteristics that do not correlate directly to IQ ... but the people who just blow standardized tests out of the water are STILL smarter and have more brainpower.

Arguably, it is the kids with all the brainpower but perhaps less discipline (probably as a result of their brainpower since they never had to try hard) are the ones who actually NEED a special program like AAP in order to properly develop their work habits and skills.

The ones who appeal in and work diligently and get good grades? Meh, they would probably be just fine anywhere.

Could not agree more. +1000. These are the kids the program was created for.

[Anonymous]

My DC is in pool from high test scores, however, I'm not at all sure he'll get accepted (poor classroom work, not the teacher's favorite, can be annoying with wanting to answer all the questions and interrupting...). Anyway, I believe he really needs more of a challenge. I also believe there are many many kids who don't test well but do well in the classroom and similarly need more challenge (AAP deserving).

[Anonymous]

Honey - you know the answer. Everyone who has a child in AAP, mostly the average kids, think their child is deserving of the program. Often for the ones who test in their parents have the sense not to send them to an "alternative learning center"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honey - you know the answer. Everyone who has a child in AAP, mostly the average kids, think their child is deserving of the program. Often for the ones who test in their parents have the sense not to send them to an "alternative learning center"

Is that another name for Saturday schools and after school tutoring classes in shopping centers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honey - you know the answer. Everyone who has a child in AAP, mostly the average kids, think their child is deserving of the program. Often for the ones who test in their parents have the sense not to send them to an "alternative learning center"

Is that another name for Saturday schools and after school tutoring classes in shopping centers?

Maybe but it is also the reality name for FCPS AAP program

[Anonymous]

Don't think more deserving, but do think if your kid is in the pool by both test score benchmarks, that should be more meaningful than referrals that don't (save for a WISC in 130's and above). 50% acceptance rate of referrals is too high, esp if they want to make any attempt to limit the scope of the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honey - you know the answer. Everyone who has a child in AAP, mostly the average kids, think their child is deserving of the program. Often for the ones who test in their parents have the sense not to send them to an "alternative learning center"

Is that another name for Saturday schools and after school tutoring classes in shopping centers?

Maybe but it is also the reality name for FCPS AAP program

+100... or the "Absolutely Average Program," as it is quietly called at our center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DC is in pool from high test scores, however, I'm not at all sure he'll get accepted (poor classroom work, not the teacher's favorite, can be annoying with wanting to answer all the questions and interrupting...). Anyway, I believe he really needs more of a challenge. I also believe there are many many kids who don't test well but do well in the classroom and similarly need more challenge (AAP deserving).

Totally agree. I think my child will be accepted based on his file (in-pool, excellent grades and probably excellent GBRS). However I feel that there are others who get in via parent referral that deserve to be there.