FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:When are the slides coming out? My kids go to Gunston and live on Mason Neck due to its largely rural nature. I think less than 20% of the total kids at the school end up at South County, but that's because Gunston is physically located on Mason Neck and has weird boundaries to pull in kids off of Mason Neck. Those kids all go to Hayfield while the kids who live on Mason Neck go to South County which is half the distance as Hayfield. Just want to be sure I can be aware of any potential situation where they are trying to rezone kids from the southern most portion of Fairfax to a school more than twice the distance away. Before South County opened kids on Mason Neck had close to an hour long one way bus trip. Since there aren't very many of these kids, I'm worried that there won't be enough advocates if the county tries to make any changes.

And, this is why a county wide boundary study is not a good idea.

This is the type of situation that needs to be addressed school by school and neighborhood by neighborhood. And, while this is a great example, it is far from the only situation that needs to be addressed individually.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

Why do they need a year to do that?

The outcomes are compiled by FCPS rach year, and posted publicly on the virginia department of education website every fall in easy to read, easy to access spreadsheets.

They could look at this and make a recommendation in a week.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

Why do they need a year to do that?

The outcomes are compiled by FCPS rach year, and posted publicly on the virginia department of education website every fall in easy to read, easy to access spreadsheets.

They could look at this and make a recommendation in a week.

+1. There's no way this should take a year, or even a month. What a waste of time and money.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

Shouldn’t take a year. FCPS does a poor job delivering IB. Should be offered at 1 or 2 schools at most, if at all. US colleges don’t care about it and most FCPS students pursue US colleges options.

AP courses should be widely available in all schools.

Let’s see how that prediction holds up.

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Anonymous wrote:The capacity of WESTFIELD vs. enrollment is under that of Oakton's.

If you look at a map, it’s pretty obvious — shifting some neighborhoods could totally help balance things out. Franklin Farm, for example, would make a ton of sense to go to Westfield. A lot of the neighborhoods right around Franklin Farm already feed into Westfield anyway, so it’s not like it would be some big, out-of-the-way move.

It wouldn’t fix everything overnight, but freeing up space at Oakton would make a real difference. Just feels like an easy option that’s sitting right there.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Why move kids in Franklin Farm from one school 9 miles away to another school 9 miles away (especially one that would require them getting on 28 and crossing 50 during rush hour, hahahaha, you clearly don't live here) when there are two other high schools both of which are even closer than Westfields. If you're moving my kids anywhere, you are moving them to Chantilly which is 3.5 miles away from my house, not another school that will take even LONGER to get to in the mornings.

You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

I'm confused about who you think is going to fill up Oakton if we're moving all the Crossfield and Navy kids to Westfield? Oakton is newly renovated and is not overcapacity. Who else would you put there?

There is a guy who lives in the western part of the Falls Church HS district (apparently the Fairhill ES area outside the Beltway) obsessed about the fact that he's not zoned to Madison, Oakton, Woodson, or Fairfax instead. He posts on multiple forums about various redistricting scenarios that he thinks might increase the likehihood of his getting rezoned into Oakton in particular, but he doesn't know that much about some of the areas further west that he wants redistricted to make that more likely. Of course, since Falls Church is getting expanded now, he's fighting a losing battle.

He's also gotten into big fights with some Langley posters, which explains much of the venom directed towards Langley and Great Falls recently.

LOL, you haven't been here long have you? Langley parents have been all over this forum for YEARS talking about they'll never send their kids to Herndon which is much closer to their homes. This has been going on for LONG before the boundary study came up.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

I really hope that by the time my kids are in high school (one of them will be there in a little over two years!!), they've made all the high schools AP only. Very few people actually want IB. There should be one IB magnet school, like TJ, and parents can opt their kids in there.

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Anonymous wrote:The capacity of WESTFIELD vs. enrollment is under that of Oakton's.

If you look at a map, it’s pretty obvious — shifting some neighborhoods could totally help balance things out. Franklin Farm, for example, would make a ton of sense to go to Westfield. A lot of the neighborhoods right around Franklin Farm already feed into Westfield anyway, so it’s not like it would be some big, out-of-the-way move.

It wouldn’t fix everything overnight, but freeing up space at Oakton would make a real difference. Just feels like an easy option that’s sitting right there.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Why move kids in Franklin Farm from one school 9 miles away to another school 9 miles away (especially one that would require them getting on 28 and crossing 50 during rush hour, hahahaha, you clearly don't live here) when there are two other high schools both of which are even closer than Westfields. If you're moving my kids anywhere, you are moving them to Chantilly which is 3.5 miles away from my house, not another school that will take even LONGER to get to in the mornings.

You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

I'm confused about who you think is going to fill up Oakton if we're moving all the Crossfield and Navy kids to Westfield? Oakton is newly renovated and is not overcapacity. Who else would you put there?

There is a guy who lives in the western part of the Falls Church HS district (apparently the Fairhill ES area outside the Beltway) obsessed about the fact that he's not zoned to Madison, Oakton, Woodson, or Fairfax instead. He posts on multiple forums about various redistricting scenarios that he thinks might increase the likehihood of his getting rezoned into Oakton in particular, but he doesn't know that much about some of the areas further west that he wants redistricted to make that more likely. Of course, since Falls Church is getting expanded now, he's fighting a losing battle.

He's also gotten into big fights with some Langley posters, which explains much of the venom directed towards Langley and Great Falls recently.

LOL, you haven't been here long have you? Langley parents have been all over this forum for YEARS talking about they'll never send their kids to Herndon which is much closer to their homes. This has been going on for LONG before the boundary study came up.

Did you bother reading the posts to which you're responding?

Langley families want the status quo. They aren't trying to move other kids around to Westfield so their kids can attend a different school.

[Anonymous]

I’m really surprised that nothing from Friday has been leaked yet!

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Anonymous wrote:The capacity of WESTFIELD vs. enrollment is under that of Oakton's.

If you look at a map, it’s pretty obvious — shifting some neighborhoods could totally help balance things out. Franklin Farm, for example, would make a ton of sense to go to Westfield. A lot of the neighborhoods right around Franklin Farm already feed into Westfield anyway, so it’s not like it would be some big, out-of-the-way move.

It wouldn’t fix everything overnight, but freeing up space at Oakton would make a real difference. Just feels like an easy option that’s sitting right there.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Why move kids in Franklin Farm from one school 9 miles away to another school 9 miles away (especially one that would require them getting on 28 and crossing 50 during rush hour, hahahaha, you clearly don't live here) when there are two other high schools both of which are even closer than Westfields. If you're moving my kids anywhere, you are moving them to Chantilly which is 3.5 miles away from my house, not another school that will take even LONGER to get to in the mornings.

You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

I'm confused about who you think is going to fill up Oakton if we're moving all the Crossfield and Navy kids to Westfield? Oakton is newly renovated and is not overcapacity. Who else would you put there?

There is a guy who lives in the western part of the Falls Church HS district (apparently the Fairhill ES area outside the Beltway) obsessed about the fact that he's not zoned to Madison, Oakton, Woodson, or Fairfax instead. He posts on multiple forums about various redistricting scenarios that he thinks might increase the likehihood of his getting rezoned into Oakton in particular, but he doesn't know that much about some of the areas further west that he wants redistricted to make that more likely. Of course, since Falls Church is getting expanded now, he's fighting a losing battle.

He's also gotten into big fights with some Langley posters, which explains much of the venom directed towards Langley and Great Falls recently.

LOL, you haven't been here long have you? Langley parents have been all over this forum for YEARS talking about they'll never send their kids to Herndon which is much closer to their homes. This has been going on for LONG before the boundary study came up.

It’s only paranoia if Langley parents aren’t out to get you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m really surprised that nothing from Friday has been leaked yet!

The slide deck was probably shown, not emailed out to the BRAC members. That plus the NDA is enough to keep things quiet until it is released.

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Anonymous wrote:The capacity of WESTFIELD vs. enrollment is under that of Oakton's.

If you look at a map, it’s pretty obvious — shifting some neighborhoods could totally help balance things out. Franklin Farm, for example, would make a ton of sense to go to Westfield. A lot of the neighborhoods right around Franklin Farm already feed into Westfield anyway, so it’s not like it would be some big, out-of-the-way move.

It wouldn’t fix everything overnight, but freeing up space at Oakton would make a real difference. Just feels like an easy option that’s sitting right there.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Why move kids in Franklin Farm from one school 9 miles away to another school 9 miles away (especially one that would require them getting on 28 and crossing 50 during rush hour, hahahaha, you clearly don't live here) when there are two other high schools both of which are even closer than Westfields. If you're moving my kids anywhere, you are moving them to Chantilly which is 3.5 miles away from my house, not another school that will take even LONGER to get to in the mornings.

You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

I'm confused about who you think is going to fill up Oakton if we're moving all the Crossfield and Navy kids to Westfield? Oakton is newly renovated and is not overcapacity. Who else would you put there?

There is a guy who lives in the western part of the Falls Church HS district (apparently the Fairhill ES area outside the Beltway) obsessed about the fact that he's not zoned to Madison, Oakton, Woodson, or Fairfax instead. He posts on multiple forums about various redistricting scenarios that he thinks might increase the likehihood of his getting rezoned into Oakton in particular, but he doesn't know that much about some of the areas further west that he wants redistricted to make that more likely. Of course, since Falls Church is getting expanded now, he's fighting a losing battle.

He's also gotten into big fights with some Langley posters, which explains much of the venom directed towards Langley and Great Falls recently.

LOL, you haven't been here long have you? Langley parents have been all over this forum for YEARS talking about they'll never send their kids to Herndon which is much closer to their homes. This has been going on for LONG before the boundary study came up.

Did you bother reading the posts to which you're responding?

Langley families want the status quo. They aren't trying to move other kids around to Westfield so their kids can attend a different school.

+1
The PP has an enormous chip on her shoulder and can’t stop obsessing over a school her kids don’t even attend.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

A YEAR? How absurd. They have all the data they need, right now. If a bunch of anonymous posters on DCUM can gather and analyze this information, then they can too. What a total waste of money and resources.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

A YEAR? How absurd. They have all the data they need, right now. If a bunch of anonymous posters on DCUM can gather and analyze this information, then they can too. What a total waste of money and resources.

Wouldn't it be easier to have staff compile the data and present it to the School Board?

Meanwhile, I would really like the IB defenders to explain why we need it in the schools. It certainly does not seem to be working in FCPS schools. I would think na survey of "in boundary" parents at IB schools would be quite revealing.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

A YEAR? How absurd. They have all the data they need, right now. If a bunch of anonymous posters on DCUM can gather and analyze this information, then they can too. What a total waste of money and resources.

Wouldn't it be easier to have staff compile the data and present it to the School Board?

Meanwhile, I would really like the IB defenders to explain why we need it in the schools. It certainly does not seem to be working in FCPS schools. I would think na survey of "in boundary" parents at IB schools would be quite revealing.

I can see where IB would be helpful for foreign service families or others who could be posted overseas away from a DODEA school since many international schools use IB. There are some people who just like the interdisciplinary approach and emphasis on writing. That's a very small subset of the population though, and the schools like Lewis and Mt. Vernon would be much better served by AP since it could serve as a means of cutting college costs for economically disadvantaged families. I imagine there could be a couple of schools set up to serve those who really want and would benefit from IB.

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You will be iced out of Chantilly because there's many more kids who are closer to that school than you are. One reason why I didn't buy in Franklin Farms or Franklin Glen, Oak Hill area for that matter. That whole area could easily be transferred to Westfield and it's not even that crazy because as PP said there are surrounding neighborhoods even further away already going to Westfield.

That's because the South Lakes and Herndon PTA's refused them during the 2008 boundary study. And, yes, it was the South Lakes PTA that made the decisions.

It doesn't matter. As far as I'm concerned, if kids living off of Sunrise Valley can attend Westfield, so can PP in Franklin Farms.

Yep. And Centreville can relieve Westfield when the renovation is finished. Virginia Run elementary could shift to Centreville.

Many people want to ignore the possible changes.

And, whether serious or not, all these suggestions do not change anything. You are just moving the chess pieces and it won't make anything better. Shifting neighborhoods for no good reason.
There were reasons that the neighborhoods were assigned where they are--and most of those reasons still exist.

When/if Centreville is expanded, is the time to adjust. Not now. And, likely, Centreville will take kids from Fairfax whose boundary boundary borders the Centreville High property.

The only simple fix to all of this is to eliminate IB. That fixes the so-called "issues" at Lewis and Herndon.

What issues are at Lewis and Herndon?

DP. The "issues" are (1) under-enrollment relative to capacity; and (2) a perception of "brain drain" to nearby, more affluent schools (i.e., a lot of Lewis kids transfer to Lake Braddock purportedly for AP and a lot of Herndon kids transfer to South Lakes purportedly for IB). Eliminate IB and these transfers aren't possible.

Note that PP put "issues" in quotes because they presumably question whether this is really the problem that some boundary change advocates suggest.

The Advanced Academic Advisory Committee is spending the year analyzing AP and IB.


“2024-25 Committee Charge

AAPAC will learn more about the Advanced Placement (AP) and International Baccalaureate (IB) options for FCPS high school students, including analyzing access, participation rates, and numbers of student exams in order to make recommendations about effective practices and possible areas for improvement”

https://www.fcps.edu/committee/advanced-academic-programs-aap-advisory-committee#committee-purpose

A YEAR? How absurd. They have all the data they need, right now. If a bunch of anonymous posters on DCUM can gather and analyze this information, then they can too. What a total waste of money and resources.

Wouldn't it be easier to have staff compile the data and present it to the School Board?

Meanwhile, I would really like the IB defenders to explain why we need it in the schools. It certainly does not seem to be working in FCPS schools. I would think na survey of "in boundary" parents at IB schools would be quite revealing.

I can see where IB would be helpful for foreign service families or others who could be posted overseas away from a DODEA school since many international schools use IB. There are some people who just like the interdisciplinary approach and emphasis on writing. That's a very small subset of the population though, and the schools like Lewis and Mt. Vernon would be much better served by AP since it could serve as a means of cutting college costs for economically disadvantaged families. I imagine there could be a couple of schools set up to serve those who really want and would benefit from IB.

Should have been decided before the boundary review began. Now if they try to shovel people into a crappy IB school it will be like the South Lakes situation in 2008 (where people pleaded with FCPS to add AP to South Lakes and were ignored) except on steroids.

These people learn absolutely nothing from the past.