Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

Your intolerance of other's views and false sense of moral superiority are blinding... your spawn are most likely the same. You seem pathetic.

+1. I work for a manufacturing company and have facilities in the deep south. The operators there are great workers who also like to enjoy life. They are all nice people who are welcoming to all (even, a northern Jewish woman like myself!) and just want to go home after work and spend time on their hobbies, and with families and friends. Honestly, their lives seem so much less stressful than the northern rat race.

Do you really think a northern or Michigan factory worker acts any differently? Do you also think someone working for an investment bank in Atlanta has a different life from a NYC investment banker?

Your example is kind of strange.

As someone who moved from DC to ATL-- yes. The NYC banker would have a drastically different life from the ATL banker. The lifestyle in the south is a lot different.

The ATL bankers I know work just as many hours and travel just as much as NYC bankers.

There is something you’re forgetting. And that id that how many hours you work and how much you travel are not the only factors determining what your lifestyle is like. One major difference between NYC and ATL that maybe slipped your mind is that cost of living is WAY higher in NYC than ATL.

That has nothing to do with the jobs which are nearly the same…but the NYC banker with bulge brackets on average are making more than the ATL bankers.

However both groups are making substantial bonuses, so the cost of living difference isn’t relevant to their lives.

Cost of living difference is relevant to everyone’s life.

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I think centers of education in the northeast like Boston and New York City will do really well. Urban campuses have a draw for a significant amount of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Cost of living difference is relevant to everyone’s life.

If only there was a mathematical way to quantify such differences...

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Anonymous wrote:Cost of living difference is relevant to everyone’s life.

If only there was a mathematical way to quantify such differences...

My point is that living in NYC is inherently very different than living in Atlanta, in large part because of the huge difference in COL. What is so hard to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

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Anonymous wrote:Cost of living difference is relevant to everyone’s life.

If only there was a mathematical way to quantify such differences...

My point is that living in NYC is inherently very different than living in Atlanta, in large part because of the huge difference in COL. What is so hard to understand?

both of you haven't worked in banking.

nyc vs atl banking isn't about COL for a young person aged 21-35

it's about the deals/transactions you'll work on.

nyc bankers just work on larger, more interesting, more headline moving dealflow than atl bankers and that really can change your career trajectory

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

just have 4000+ years of history...to say that it won't happen over generations -- considering that jewish presence in the south at one point as a percentage of total jewish-american population was larger and quite notable -- is asinine .

we are at an inflection point

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

just have 4000+ years of history...to say that it won't happen over generations -- considering that jewish presence in the south at one point as a percentage of total jewish-american population was larger and quite notable -- is asinine .

we are at an inflection point

i meant that *jews have 4000+ years of history

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Anonymous wrote:I think centers of education in the northeast like Boston and New York City will do really well. Urban campuses have a draw for a significant amount of people.

maybe NYC, but Columbia is def reputationally damaged, already has a rep of being the 'not fun, dork ivy', now has a further reputation of tantrums and protests (these protests are different from the vietnam protests -- they are way more unhinged).

nyc without Columbia is not as attractive

boston will always do very well with students - agreed

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

just have 4000+ years of history...to say that it won't happen over generations -- considering that jewish presence in the south at one point as a percentage of total jewish-american population was larger and quite notable -- is asinine .

we are at an inflection point

i meant that *jews have 4000+ years of history

Right ok. It’s asinine to look at historical population trends and actual knowledge of Jewish communities I know personally and make a judgment that’s it’s extremely unlikely that Jewish ppl are suddenly going to be moving south in droves due to some protests in the NE. Right.

Most ppl who have sense and aren’t reactive know that your idea that the Jewish population will shift south in any meaningful way is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

just have 4000+ years of history...to say that it won't happen over generations -- considering that jewish presence in the south at one point as a percentage of total jewish-american population was larger and quite notable -- is asinine .

we are at an inflection point

i meant that *jews have 4000+ years of history

Right ok. It’s asinine to look at historical population trends and actual knowledge of Jewish communities I know personally and make a judgment that’s it’s extremely unlikely that Jewish ppl are suddenly going to be moving south in droves due to some protests in the NE. Right.

Most ppl who have sense and aren’t reactive know that your idea that the Jewish population will shift south in any meaningful way is absurd.

https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/jews-on-the-move-the-geographic-dimension-of-jewish-survival-in-north-america/

you are being small-minded

plenty of jews are looking to the south, texas, and previously 'less jewish' states as opportunity and overall environment is more welcoming

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

It could be, but those same kids won't live there. Go to their cheap colleges, and then return north for the high paying jobs and non-insane people. That's what I did. NYer who went south for College - UF. Then left and went North for my MBA - UPenn. Now in the Mid-Atlantic but itching to get back up north. Marriage and what not trapped me here. My two oldest are at Harvard but my youngest is looking south. She won't stay. It's not in our blood.

University of Florida, all of the public colleges in Florida, will have a massive drop in reputation thanks to Desantis running the schools unofficially. The MAGAs will be in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. Not a great learning environment.

Florida schools are hotter than ever and not at all dropping anytime soon

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It's funny, the same poster keeps popping up to insist Florida schools will decline due to DeSantis... and yet, we see the exact opposite happening. It must really infuriate that poster!

Very few school become amazing or terrible overnight. And when they do, it’s because an NEU or Tulane got aggressive with playing the USNWR numbers game. Not because of academic policy decisions. It’s a trajectory. More online classes, professors jumping ship and limited academic freedom isn’t a great sign for Florida. But like the new TJ admissions criteria. A gamble. And the exact results for FL colleges won’t really be known for 5-10 years. The problem is you are gambling now with what your kids degree will be worth when they are applying for jobs and grad schools. Not sure I’d play the game they are playing giving the demographic cliff coming and TO being phased out. Huge jumps in application numbers aren’t sustainable for most schools. But it’s FL. A decent percentage of the things they do make no sense. I wouldn’t send a kid there not because of what it looks like in 2024, but because the impact of decision made now will start to be felt in 2028. Too much of a gamble for me.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

Um...southern Florida would like a word.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Jew, my kid will be primarily looking at Southern schools. The anti-semitism just isn't baked in, like in CA and Northeast schools. Why put up with that for 4 years?

The only reason anti semitism isn’t “baked in” in the south though is because there aren’t nearly as many Jewish people in the south, not because southerners aren’t as anti semitic.

Ha ha. Nope. Lots of Jews in the South, especially in cities. But the teaching at the Southern schools isn't as centered on decolonialist antifa psychosis as it is in the NE, CA. I'm an academic and I am very aware of where they are inculcating Franz Fanon & the like. Anti-semites are everywhere, but the academy is far more rational in the South.

Other than south florida, where are these mythical southern Jewish people living? I grew up in a major city in the Deep South and had extended family I visited regularly in 2 other major southern cities. I didn’t meet a single Jewish person until I went to college in Chicago.

Florida, Atlanta, Austin,

Houston, Dallas, Miami, NOLA. I went to school with lots of Jewish kids in Houston.

Besides Miami all of those cities you listed have only 1-2% of the population that is Jewish.

And what's wrong with that? Isn't that on par with the total percent of population of the US?

Plus, you're fudging the numbers. See - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/largest-jewish-populated-metropolitan-areas-united-states

Largest Jewish metro areas are NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, DC, Philly, ATL, Miami, PHX.

No, I wasn’t fudging numbers. I got my numbers from Wikipedia. And my point is just that the south is not home to nearly as many Jewish people as the north. And that it’s absurd for people to view the south as more welcoming to Jewish people than the north simply because there haven’t been recent incidences of antisemitism in the south. My further point is that it’s unlikely to find as much antisemitism in a place like the south where not nearly as many Jewish people as it is in the north, where many more Jewish people live now and many more have historically lived.

Well, not entirely historically. The first two Jewish Senators (*) left the US Government in 1861 because they joined the Confederacy; one became the Secretary of the Navy, the other Secretary of War, and then Secretary of State. This is partially why Tulane ("Jewlane") is 44% Jewish.

(*) David Levy Yulee started Jewish but converted to Christianity; Judah P. Benjamin was Jewish throughout his life.

jews have a long history in the south. on a per capita basis, it was more common for jews in the south to own slaves than gentile whites

40% of jews nationwide owned slaves in the antebellum period

This is true and still doesn’t refute the fact that way more Jewish people live in the north than the south.

sure - right now -- but history is long and jews are historically less 'place based' than most people. if the south provides a better environment for jews, they will slowly move over generations to the south from the north

Right now and for the entire history of the us. Come on. I know a lot of Jewish people. No one is moving south. It’s not a trend I can see catching on in most Jewish communities.

Um...southern Florida would like a word.

Retired Jewish people, right?