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02/17/2025 13:21

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford's twin study (plant based v. omnivore) resulted in significant'y better outcomes for the plant based group.

Omnivore is not the same as carnivore. If they would have done a real comparison to carnivore, they would have completely different results. Especially if they had both groups participating in a strength training program and charting changes in mental health

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02/17/2025 13:42

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:Stanford's twin study (plant based v. omnivore) resulted in significant'y better outcomes for the plant based group.

That was made into a documentary on Netflix. It has been exposed as vegan propaganda. They failed to mention that they left processed food in the omnivore diet but removed it from the vegan diet.
The omnivore eaters all gained muscle mass while the vegans lost muscle mass. One person lost 8 lbs of muscle on the vegan diet.
The vegan group's B12 levels dropped by 65%. Which significantly increases a person's risk of depression and dementia.
The study was conducted by Dr. Christopher Gardner, the director of the Stanford Plant-based Diet Initiative.

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02/18/2025 14:42

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is gross...
https://www.wjbf.com/news/florida-patients-hands-filled-with-cholesterol-after-he-ate-6-9-pounds-of-cheese-butter-for-months/amp/

Can you imagine what that did to his arteries? No responsible doctor would recommend this nonsense.

The problem was the dairy here. not carnivore

The problem here is an increased level of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol.

First of all, that's not even real. You have to be an idiot to believe that story. Second, even if it was real, that guy was eating 9 pounds of butter and cheese every day. That has nothing to do with carnivore.
They claim he was eating 10,000 calories per day but losing weight. Lol! That story was completely made up and labeled as 'carnivore' to try to scare people away from a diet that is getting people healthy. The food and pharmaceutical companies do not want you healthy. It's not a sustainable business model for them

You don't need that story to know that the carnivore diet is dumb, unsustainable, and unhealthy. Plenty of credible, peer-reviewed studies prove that. Believe your YouTube hack if you want. I chose to believe in science.

This Harvard Dr is a YouTube hack?
https://www.chrispalmermd.com/chris-palmer/

Absolutely! Show me peer-reviewed studies of the long-term effects of this diet and I'll believe you. Remember when people jumped on the bandwagon of thinking that vaccines cause autism? THat was a quack from Oxford who published his "study" which was debunked 100 times over.

Frankly, you sound like an uneducated, gullible moron who thinks Google can replace actual science.

Revero an Inverta are both in the process of doing the studies. You need to understand that it takes years to get permission, conduct the studies, get the peer reviews, and then publish the results. A "long-term" diet study is 2 years. Thus, it takes at least 2 years for the study period to even be able to get anything. Show me actual longterm studies of ANY diet with hard outcomes as part of the results. You can't.

Oh how wrong you are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10128075/#:~:text=The%20Prospective%20Urban%20Rural%20Epidemiology,%2Dyears%20of%20follow%2Dup.

Recent Findings
Diets rich in fruits, vegetables, legumes, whole grains, and lean protein sources, with minimization/avoidance of processed foods, trans-fats, and sugar sweetened beverages, are recommended by prevention guidelines. The Mediterranean, DASH, and plant-based diets have all proven cardioprotective in varying degrees and are endorsed by professional healthcare societies, while other emerging diets such as the ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting require more long-term study. The effects of diet on the gut microbiome and on cardiovascular health have opened a new path for precision medicine to improve cardiometabolic risk factors. The effects of certain dietary metabolites, such as trimethylamine N-oxide, on cardiometabolic risk factors, along with the changes in the gut microbiome diversity and gene pathways in relation to CVD management, are being explored.

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02/18/2025 14:46

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous

I was wondering about this too. I have a friend on it. She says she's lost 65 lbs and feels great. I worry about long term effects of all the fat and lack of nutrients. But, she's quite happy with it.

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02/20/2025 12:30

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous wrote:Well this is gross...
https://www.wjbf.com/news/florida-patients-hands-filled-with-cholesterol-after-he-ate-6-9-pounds-of-cheese-butter-for-months/amp/

Can you imagine what that did to his arteries? No responsible doctor would recommend this nonsense.

The problem was the dairy here. not carnivore

The problem here is an increased level of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol.

First of all, that's not even real. You have to be an idiot to believe that story. Second, even if it was real, that guy was eating 9 pounds of butter and cheese every day. That has nothing to do with carnivore.
They claim he was eating 10,000 calories per day but losing weight. Lol! That story was completely made up and labeled as 'carnivore' to try to scare people away from a diet that is getting people healthy. The food and pharmaceutical companies do not want you healthy. It's not a sustainable business model for them

You don't need that story to know that the carnivore diet is dumb, unsustainable, and unhealthy. Plenty of credible, peer-reviewed studies prove that. Believe your YouTube hack if you want. I chose to believe in science.

This Harvard Dr is a YouTube hack?
https://www.chrispalmermd.com/chris-palmer/

Absolutely! Show me peer-reviewed studies of the long-term effects of this diet and I'll believe you. Remember when people jumped on the bandwagon of thinking that vaccines cause autism? THat was a quack from Oxford who published his "study" which was debunked 100 times over.

Frankly, you sound like an uneducated, gullible moron who thinks Google can replace actual science.

Revero an Inverta are both in the process of doing the studies. You need to understand that it takes years to get permission, conduct the studies, get the peer reviews, and then publish the results. A "long-term" diet study is 2 years. Thus, it takes at least 2 years for the study period to even be able to get anything. Show me actual longterm studies of ANY diet with hard outcomes as part of the results. You can't.

Oh how wrong you are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10128075/#:~:text=The%20Prospective%20Urban%20Rural%20Epidemiology,%2Dyears%20of%20follow%2Dup.

Recent Findings
Diets rich in fruits, vegetables, legumes, whole grains, and lean protein sources, with minimization/avoidance of processed foods, trans-fats, and sugar sweetened beverages, are recommended by prevention guidelines. The Mediterranean, DASH, and plant-based diets have all proven cardioprotective in varying degrees and are endorsed by professional healthcare societies, while other emerging diets such as the ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting require more long-term study. The effects of diet on the gut microbiome and on cardiovascular health have opened a new path for precision medicine to improve cardiometabolic risk factors. The effects of certain dietary metabolites, such as trimethylamine N-oxide, on cardiometabolic risk factors, along with the changes in the gut microbiome diversity and gene pathways in relation to CVD management, are being explored.

We have absolutely no idea which gut microbiome factors mean what. Also, EVERY STUDY comes with the caveat of, "UNDER THE CONDITIONS STUDIED." In other words, if you develop a correlation (not causation) between a certain gut profile and longevity, you can only draw that conclusion under the conditions studied. So, here, they developed such a correlation based on omnivore eating. Then they tried to apply that to carnivore eating. YOU CAN'T DO THAT! That violates science and holding variables constant. The so-called idea gut-microbiome profile is only valid for omnivore eaters. If you eat something else, you will have a different profile. You can't just declare that the ideal omnivore profile applies there. Take your fake science with you.

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02/20/2025 12:38

Subject: Carnivore diet

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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this is gross...
https://www.wjbf.com/news/florida-patients-hands-filled-with-cholesterol-after-he-ate-6-9-pounds-of-cheese-butter-for-months/amp/

Can you imagine what that did to his arteries? No responsible doctor would recommend this nonsense.

The problem was the dairy here. not carnivore

The problem here is an increased level of dietary saturated fat and cholesterol.

First of all, that's not even real. You have to be an idiot to believe that story. Second, even if it was real, that guy was eating 9 pounds of butter and cheese every day. That has nothing to do with carnivore.
They claim he was eating 10,000 calories per day but losing weight. Lol! That story was completely made up and labeled as 'carnivore' to try to scare people away from a diet that is getting people healthy. The food and pharmaceutical companies do not want you healthy. It's not a sustainable business model for them

You don't need that story to know that the carnivore diet is dumb, unsustainable, and unhealthy. Plenty of credible, peer-reviewed studies prove that. Believe your YouTube hack if you want. I chose to believe in science.

This Harvard Dr is a YouTube hack?
https://www.chrispalmermd.com/chris-palmer/

Absolutely! Show me peer-reviewed studies of the long-term effects of this diet and I'll believe you. Remember when people jumped on the bandwagon of thinking that vaccines cause autism? THat was a quack from Oxford who published his "study" which was debunked 100 times over.

Frankly, you sound like an uneducated, gullible moron who thinks Google can replace actual science.

Revero an Inverta are both in the process of doing the studies. You need to understand that it takes years to get permission, conduct the studies, get the peer reviews, and then publish the results. A "long-term" diet study is 2 years. Thus, it takes at least 2 years for the study period to even be able to get anything. Show me actual longterm studies of ANY diet with hard outcomes as part of the results. You can't.

Oh how wrong you are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10128075/#:~:text=The%20Prospective%20Urban%20Rural%20Epidemiology,%2Dyears%20of%20follow%2Dup.

Recent Findings
Diets rich in fruits, vegetables, legumes, whole grains, and lean protein sources, with minimization/avoidance of processed foods, trans-fats, and sugar sweetened beverages, are recommended by prevention guidelines. The Mediterranean, DASH, and plant-based diets have all proven cardioprotective in varying degrees and are endorsed by professional healthcare societies, while other emerging diets such as the ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting require more long-term study. The effects of diet on the gut microbiome and on cardiovascular health have opened a new path for precision medicine to improve cardiometabolic risk factors. The effects of certain dietary metabolites, such as trimethylamine N-oxide, on cardiometabolic risk factors, along with the changes in the gut microbiome diversity and gene pathways in relation to CVD management, are being explored.

We have absolutely no idea which gut microbiome factors mean what. Also, EVERY STUDY comes with the caveat of, "UNDER THE CONDITIONS STUDIED." In other words, if you develop a correlation (not causation) between a certain gut profile and longevity, you can only draw that conclusion under the conditions studied. So, here, they developed such a correlation based on omnivore eating. Then they tried to apply that to carnivore eating. YOU CAN'T DO THAT! That violates science and holding variables constant. The so-called idea gut-microbiome profile is only valid for omnivore eaters. If you eat something else, you will have a different profile. You can't just declare that the ideal omnivore profile applies there. Take your fake science with you.