Why is it so much harder to get into a top school now?

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Anonymous wrote:Test scores don't mean everything, and studies show Black students don't need as high of test scores to have similar outcomes. For instance the graduation rate for Black students at Emory is higher than that of white students there.

do they get special treatment for graduation as they do for admission at Emory? Genuinely asking.

Massive resources are thrown at POC students to make sure everything is going ok. Plus maybe white students transfer more because of financial issues. If you get a full ride for 4 years, that is off the table.

No white people don't transfer out more. And frankly society as a whole is set up for white people to succeed, and white students at Emory are obviously much wealthier so why would they need the extra help? The problem is mainly white males as there graduation rate is in the low 80's. I think Black males are a bit higher actually. The issue with white males is seem across the education spectrum and frankly beyond.

It seems like folks are going out of their way to make the case that URMs at these schools are JUST as talented as their white/Asian peers despite lower test scores (tests are racist, got it) and despite the fact that we know schools bend over backwards to meet diversity goals. Why can’t we just accept that on average standards are lower for URMs at top schools. Just as standards are lower for athletes and kids from Arkansas. And in many cases, males. Why do we have to play this charade? If you think affirmative action is a good thing, then just be honest about it and say, look, yeah maybe the schools are compromising standards a bit, but this is how we address racial economic inequality so who cares. Just be honest.

No one here is saying the test score aren't lower on avg for URMs. What I am saying is that, white students, particularly white male students should be doing demonstrably better than URM students at top schools considering, their race, gender, avg familial wealth, and avg higher test scores. When the data shows, particularly for a school like Emory, that this is not the case and they are in fact doing worse. That's not strange to you?

Human reality and troll reality don't align.

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All thr privilege in the world but still underperforming. Many won't admit it but this is why trump and desantis exist.

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There’s a reason why colleges have wraparound social services today, high tuition to subsidize non-paying students and students being angstier than ever.