Inflation Reduction Act of 2022

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Well the IRS pays for all those people so…

No. The tax payers do. The govt. does not generate money. It takes it from the people.

You profoundly do not understand how a business or a gov operates. You gotta get the money in the door first and foremost. There is ‘owing’ money and then there is ‘collecting’ money…and those are completely different things. But of course you don’t get this - you have never been in charge of anything important in your life and you think Trump was a successful business man.

Also, you reactively get defensive when people try to stop others who are cheating and lying. Bc you identify with them.

Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Oh let me guess, you think they’re going to hire 87,000 people all at once? Wrong. That hiring is projected over 10 YEARS. It offsets recent DECREASES – the current staffing is the same as it was in 1974 – and expected retirements and attrition. Some taxpayers have been waiting more than 6 months for their refunds. The IRS will go from understaffed to right staffed as the nation continues to grow. Every organization needs a functioning accounts receivable department.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Unless you’re a tax cheat there should be no reason for you to worry.

Not true. I have a friend who worked out a payment plan with the IRS. Signed contracts, everything. Finished all documents, all records kept, etc. When the last payment was made, they set up pay garnishment at his wife's place of business and told him "we are done with you when WE say we are done with you"

Yeah right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Oh let me guess, you think they’re going to hire 87,000 people all at once? Wrong. That hiring is projected over 10 YEARS. It offsets recent DECREASES – the current staffing is the same as it was in 1974 – and expected retirements and attrition. Some taxpayers have been waiting more than 6 months for their refunds. The IRS will go from understaffed to right staffed as the nation continues to grow. Every organization needs a functioning accounts receivable department.

It’ll take until Q1 2023 to even get some of those people on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Oh let me guess, you think they’re going to hire 87,000 people all at once? Wrong. That hiring is projected over 10 YEARS. It offsets recent DECREASES – the current staffing is the same as it was in 1974 – and expected retirements and attrition. Some taxpayers have been waiting more than 6 months for their refunds. The IRS will go from understaffed to right staffed as the nation continues to grow. Every organization needs a functioning accounts receivable department.

It’ll take until Q1 2023 to even get some of those people on.

In the current hiring environment, they may never reach those staffing targets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Well the IRS pays for all those people so…

No. The tax payers do. The govt. does not generate money. It takes it from the people.

You profoundly do not understand how a business or a gov operates. You gotta get the money in the door first and foremost. There is ‘owing’ money and then there is ‘collecting’ money…and those are completely different things. But of course you don’t get this - you have never been in charge of anything important in your life and you think Trump was a successful business man.

Also, you reactively get defensive when people try to stop others who are cheating and lying. Bc you identify with them.

Pathetic.

I understand business quite well.
The government does not generate money. It gets its money from tax payers. So, anything funded by the govt. is funded by the people.
Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Well the IRS pays for all those people so…

No. The tax payers do. The govt. does not generate money. It takes it from the people.

You profoundly do not understand how a business or a gov operates. You gotta get the money in the door first and foremost. There is ‘owing’ money and then there is ‘collecting’ money…and those are completely different things. But of course you don’t get this - you have never been in charge of anything important in your life and you think Trump was a successful business man.

Also, you reactively get defensive when people try to stop others who are cheating and lying. Bc you identify with them.

Pathetic.

I understand business quite well.
The government does not generate money. It gets its money from tax payers. So, anything funded by the govt. is funded by the people.
Period.

Or fees, penalties, arms sales, interest, bonds, etc. The "other" ways any government "gets its money".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad. The Democrats really need to do a much better job selling this landmark bill to the public. Democrats traditionally suck at messaging.

But I’m glad. It’s far from perfect but I’m old enough not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

I hope the Democrats can understand that the Senate was completely divided over this. It’s not like this thing was so obviously good that it could be supported unanimously. If we had a different administration there’d be a lot more trust this would be done right.

There’s so much division in America. It would be so crass for Democrats to take this thing and hammer Republicans who are already furious about how the Presidency was stolen from Donald Trump. Who in Arkansas is purchasing induction stovetops? Who I’m Mississippi is purchasing an electric car? Who in Tennessee is purchasing solar panels? See? All these climate things are directed to BLUE states. Because they can afford to front the money to get these things. So it’s not right to trumpet an “accomplishment” that only benefits their voters. Do better.

Psst, just here from the south with a fact check.

1. We do have electric cars (I own one).

2. In general, people dont own solar panels, they lease them through a company like solar city.

3. We dont generally have induction stoves. When I went househunting, the homes were almost entirely gas Dacor or Wolf.

Im a republican and dont have an issue with the kind of items promoted. I have an issue with its name (the purpose is clearly green energy, not inflstion reduction). While I worry that we are not investing in oil and gas while we still need it, it would be good to have more incentives for people to choose electric cars. I dont think you'll ever sell the south on induction stoves. That isnt a money thing, it is a preference thing.

Psst...what investments in oil and gas does the government need to make? There are THOUSANDS of untapped wells in the US on public lands.

Mostly in the back end-- refineries and distribution.

So you believe the government should be investing in private sector refineries and means of distribution? Like, that is literally socialism!

Is it? Yes, I think we should use the DOE to make strategic investments in energy. Call it what you want.

I agree, but I believe those investments should be in the future, not fossil fuels, which have received trillions in subsidies over the past many decades. Why invest more in gas and coal when they cause things like asthma, that we then have to cover via the ACA? Better to ensure cleaner energy sources that reduce air pollution and dependence on foreign sources that also include the military and transportation costs.

When you look at nations that have tried to flip the switch into green energy without making continued investments in traditional fuel sources, they have had to backtrack on it and spend even more than if they had done a thoughtful phase out. The green energy market just isnt ready to scale for the entire nation, and the thought that it would fill the void created by reducing investment in traditional sources just hasnt panned out well. That doesnt mean the green dream is dead or will never work, it will just take longer. In the meantime, we need to reduce our risk exposure by continuing to invest in oil and gas.

This bill that just passed yesterday includes the very legacy investments you seem to support. No one is suggesting that fossil fuels are going to be phased out tomorrow. But we have to have an earnest transition. That begins with this bill.

As was posted earlier, there are thousands of untapped wells ready for the private sector to exploit. No one is stopping them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS will now be larger than the State Dept., the FBI, and the Customs and Border Patrol combined.

Shows where the Democrats' priorities are. And, they are NOT the priorities of the American people.

Why do you support tax cheaters?

Have you tried calling the IRS in the past three years? You sit on hold for an hour and then they cut you off. There is no way to follow-up when you get a dreaded "clarification letter" and in the meanwhile tax cheats are getting away with a collective BILLIONS of dollars.

Let's get something straight. They are more than doubling the size of the IRS. And, I will pretty much guarantee you that more employees will not improve service when you call them. And, yes, I have called the IRS - 2 years ago. Didn't wait long and I received a prompt answer to my question.
It is not about tax cheaters. When you receive notice of an IRS audit, the prudent thing to do is to contact an accountant/tax attorney to be an advocate or to be sure everything is in order. Big companies have these people on the payroll. The average American doesn't and many don't have the resources to pay for them. You could do everything right, and still have to pay thousands out of pocket because the IRS wants to scrutinize your tax return.

This is just a really poor way to spend tax payer's money. More border agents... yep. More police officers .... yep. Increased pay for military.... yep.

The priorities of this administration is just so out of touch with most Americans. And, I sincerely hope they suffer in the midterms and 2024 as a result of this bill and all the other crap they have (and haven't) done.

They are basically restoring the IRS employment levels to where it had been before it was gutted.

And most of those jobs are going to be in red states, so that should make you happy.

[Anonymous]

The word inflation shouldn't been in the bill, it's a green bill and tax increase. They should've called it the green bill, wtf are they stupid

[Anonymous]

Tax increases are de facto deflationary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The word inflation shouldn't been in the bill, it's a green bill and tax increase. They should've called it the green bill, wtf are they stupid

They are smart enough to get it passed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The word inflation shouldn't been in the bill, it's a green bill and tax increase. They should've called it the green bill, wtf are they stupid

They are smart enough to get it passed.

It's called branding. Something the GOP is good at. The great part is, those that voted against it, voted against the "Inflation Reduction Act". So, to the ignorant masses, they are against reducing inflation. That's good politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The word inflation shouldn't been in the bill, it's a green bill and tax increase. They should've called it the green bill, wtf are they stupid

They are smart enough to get it passed.

It's called branding. Something the GOP is good at. The great part is, those that voted against it, voted against the "Inflation Reduction Act". So, to the ignorant masses, they are against reducing inflation. That's good politics.

May be that is why RWNJs are so mad - for once Democrats got a branding right. They should have named Insulin cost and Inflation redux act...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The word inflation shouldn't been in the bill, it's a green bill and tax increase. They should've called it the green bill, wtf are they stupid

They are smart enough to get it passed.

It's called branding. Something the GOP is good at. The great part is, those that voted against it, voted against the "Inflation Reduction Act". So, to the ignorant masses, they are against reducing inflation. That's good politics.

May be that is why RWNJs are so mad - for once Democrats got a branding right. They should have named Insulin cost and Inflation redux act...

Oh they're mad because it's good news for the Democrats. Many of the policies are popular, including tax enforcement and taxing corporations and the wealthy. It actually helps most of the ignorant plebes. They just don't realize it or don't want to acknowledge that we're actually trying to make their lives better.