Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

From the WaPo article:

The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”

The judge is not medically qualified to make the decision? Neither is Ken Paxton, Governor Greg Asshat, the members of the Texas legislature, the churches, and everyone else who is trying to dictate women’s private medical decisions.

If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention. This is some Gilead-level shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”

The judge is not medically qualified to make the decision? Neither is Ken Paxton, Governor Greg Asshat, the members of the Texas legislature, the churches, and everyone else who is trying to dictate women’s private medical decisions.

If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention. This is some Gilead-level shit.

The judge needs to hold another hearing and find whoever shows up for Texas in contempt, preferably with a jail stay until Paxton changes his mind

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope you women in TX who just shrug about this issue never have to be in this woman's shoes.

I hope they end up in her shoes. So many pro life women believe their abortions are somehow different. If they didn’t think that way, this law never would have passed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”

The judge is not medically qualified to make the decision? Neither is Ken Paxton, Governor Greg Asshat, the members of the Texas legislature, the churches, and everyone else who is trying to dictate women’s private medical decisions.

If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention. This is some Gilead-level shit.

We need to find a way to tie Paxton to Cruz. Too many voters don’t make the connection about abortion and lawmakers. Voters may blame Paxton but vote for Cruz. We need to find a way to hand this abortion around Rafael’s neck, and every other firebreathing MAGA lawmaker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you women in TX who just shrug about this issue never have to be in this woman's shoes.

I hope they end up in her shoes. So many pro life women believe their abortions are somehow different. If they didn’t think that way, this law never would have passed

Yep. Now they have fooled around and will find out. Hopefully once their fertility is destroyed by a dangerous pregnancy they will finally understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope you women in TX who just shrug about this issue never have to be in this woman's shoes.

I hope they end up in her shoes. So many pro life women believe their abortions are somehow different. If they didn’t think that way, this law never would have passed

Yep. Now they have fooled around and will find out. Hopefully once their fertility is destroyed by a dangerous pregnancy they will finally understand.

I hope they keep covering these heinous stories out of forced birther states. So many women felt righteous in voting forced birther, but with a wink. They got abortions at the same rate as pro choice women, but they wanted to send a message they were the “good” kind of women, and they assumed that abortion would always be there.

I think there are a lot of Republican women voters who will be voting Democratic until the abortion mess their party created is dealt with. Like a lot of them will be voting for the Democrat.

[Anonymous]

when they tell you who they are, believe them...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:when they tell you who they are, believe them...

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand- you cannot reason with religious nuts. It’s why the founders didn’t want them anywhere near government. Trying to reason with them is about as effective with trying to reason with a rabid animal. It’s just not in their nature. If you can’t contain them, then you put them out of their (political) misery. You don’t try to access a part of their reasonable human brain that has been rotten away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:when they tell you who they are, believe them...

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand- you cannot reason with religious nuts. It’s why the founders didn’t want them anywhere near government. Trying to reason with them is about as effective with trying to reason with a rabid animal. It’s just not in their nature. If you can’t contain them, then you put them out of their (political) misery. You don’t try to access a part of their reasonable human brain that has been rotten away.

The speaker of the house gave a bat snit crazy dominionists speech at the “Museum” of the Bible, comparing himself to Moses and essentially talking about the holy war the GOP is waging on America. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mike-johnson-moses-christian-nationalist-gala-1234918565/

In other words, vote blue. The GOP must be isolated and treated like the infectious disease that it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:when they tell you who they are, believe them...

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand- you cannot reason with religious nuts. It’s why the founders didn’t want them anywhere near government. Trying to reason with them is about as effective with trying to reason with a rabid animal. It’s just not in their nature. If you can’t contain them, then you put them out of their (political) misery. You don’t try to access a part of their reasonable human brain that has been rotten away.

Good point. There is a difference between what our founders were dealing with and what our government today is dealing with in regards to religion's influence on government. The percentage of the population 250 years ago that would be categorized as evangelical was much, much higher than where that figure stands today. With each passing generation religion has continually become less and less ingrained in our culture. The percentage of people in this country that are truly conservative evangelicals today is no more than 20% and declining rapidly as the older generations pass on. Our founders were balancing practical government in a society where a vast majority of people were ultra religious conservatives. Our founders were successful at that balancing act. This makes me wonder why evangelicals are given such a loud voice in government today especially as it pertains to the abortion issue. The complete abortion bans or close to absolute bans enacted or on the table in conservative leaning states do not reflect the views of the majority in those states. The majority in those states may want more restrictive abortion policies than the majority do in liberal leaning states but no where close to all out bans. The elected legislatures in those states see more benefit in further dividing the two "sides" than they do in serving to the wants and needs of their electorate. It's sad and disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

The Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, threatened legal action if the abortion takes place. In a letter addressed to the hospitals involved with Cox’s care, Paxton said that Cox’s doctor did not meet “all of the elements necessary to fall within an exception to Texas’ abortion laws” and that the judge was “not medically qualified to make this determination.”
Paxton said the judge’s order would not excuse the hospital or doctor from civil or criminal liability “including first degree felony prosecutions.” He added that the temporary restraining order “will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”

The judge is not medically qualified to make the decision? Neither is Ken Paxton, Governor Greg Asshat, the members of the Texas legislature, the churches, and everyone else who is trying to dictate women’s private medical decisions.

If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention. This is some Gilead-level shit.

The judge needs to hold another hearing and find whoever shows up for Texas in contempt, preferably with a jail stay until Paxton changes his mind

If the doctors stand up for their beliefs, then they will become martyrs.

This is like people living under tyrannical rule willing to go to jail for their beliefs.

Rs = Tyrants who want to tell you what to do with your bodies.

[Anonymous]

Any pro-lifer want to chime in on this TX case? Do you think this woman should not be allowed to have an abortion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:when they tell you who they are, believe them...

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand- you cannot reason with religious nuts. It’s why the founders didn’t want them anywhere near government. Trying to reason with them is about as effective with trying to reason with a rabid animal. It’s just not in their nature. If you can’t contain them, then you put them out of their (political) misery. You don’t try to access a part of their reasonable human brain that has been rotten away.

Good point. There is a difference between what our founders were dealing with and what our government today is dealing with in regards to religion's influence on government. The percentage of the population 250 years ago that would be categorized as evangelical was much, much higher than where that figure stands today. With each passing generation religion has continually become less and less ingrained in our culture. The percentage of people in this country that are truly conservative evangelicals today is no more than 20% and declining rapidly as the older generations pass on. Our founders were balancing practical government in a society where a vast majority of people were ultra religious conservatives. Our founders were successful at that balancing act. This makes me wonder why evangelicals are given such a loud voice in government today especially as it pertains to the abortion issue. The complete abortion bans or close to absolute bans enacted or on the table in conservative leaning states do not reflect the views of the majority in those states. The majority in those states may want more restrictive abortion policies than the majority do in liberal leaning states but no where close to all out bans. The elected legislatures in those states see more benefit in further dividing the two "sides" than they do in serving to the wants and needs of their electorate. It's sad and disgusting.

The abortion issue is a Catholic issue, co-opted by the Evangelicals. For most of our history, the WASPs were extremely distrustful of Catholics. They would have rather kept religion out of government entirely than risk takeover by the “papists”. Growing acceptance of Catholicism, combined with good old fashioned Evangelical racists looking for a new wedge issue, led to the winning GOP combo we see today. Goldwater warned us. Jefferson warned us. The clerics are incompatible with freedom.

[Anonymous]

Paxton, an adulterer tries to stop on abortion. Don't blame him, blame the idiots who keep him in office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Paxton, an adulterer tries to stop on abortion. Don't blame him, blame the idiots who keep him in office.

They tried to remove him for his crimes, but too many in the Texas GOP closed ranks around him.

So here is a guy that is basically a felon, telling women how to manage their bodies and threatening prison for doctors and nurses trying to do their jobs.