Boundary question

[Anonymous]

New to this forum. My child will be in boundary for Murch in the fall. Will that mean Deal and Wilson for MS/HS in the future? Or will there be a boundary change? Or is it too soon to tell?

[Anonymous]

Realistically and geography-wise Murch won't see change. And nothing til 2015.

[Anonymous]

Realistically there could be changed in Murch's boundaries but doubtful there will be a change in the feeder pattern. But like PP said, nothing until 2015 and then thereby be a grandfather.

[Anonymous]

Some Murch boundary could realistically change to Hearst, since Hearst has boundaries which are too small to feed it and it is undergoing a renovation.

[Anonymous]

I imagine Hardy reaching east to DuPont, not north to Van Ness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some Murch boundary could realistically change to Hearst, since Hearst has boundaries which are too small to feed it and it is undergoing a renovation.

If OPs kid starts Murch in September 2014 then she likely will be grandfathered in regardless if her elementary school changes to Hearst in 2015. But there is some talk of Hearst feeding to Hardy Middle School, so I suppose there is a small likelihood that if OP is re-zoned for Hearst then her middle school might wind up being Hardy if all of Hearst goes to Hardy. But this only applies if OP is at the very southern boundary of Murch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some Murch boundary could realistically change to Hearst, since Hearst has boundaries which are too small to feed it and it is undergoing a renovation.

If OPs kid starts Murch in September 2014 then she likely will be grandfathered in regardless if her elementary school changes to Hearst in 2015. But there is some talk of Hearst feeding to Hardy Middle School, so I suppose there is a small likelihood that if OP is re-zoned for Hearst then her middle school might wind up being Hardy if all of Hearst goes to Hardy. But this only applies if OP is at the very southern boundary of Murch.

I have heard Eaton might go to Hardy, but had not heard that about Hearst. It is not far geographically from Deal, so would be a little surprising and is closer to Deal than Eaton or Oyster-Adams, though OA has it's own MS many IB families choose Deal from there. So a few other ES would go to Hardy before Hearst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some Murch boundary could realistically change to Hearst, since Hearst has boundaries which are too small to feed it and it is undergoing a renovation.

If OPs kid starts Murch in September 2014 then she likely will be grandfathered in regardless if her elementary school changes to Hearst in 2015. But there is some talk of Hearst feeding to Hardy Middle School, so I suppose there is a small likelihood that if OP is re-zoned for Hearst then her middle school might wind up being Hardy if all of Hearst goes to Hardy. But this only applies if OP is at the very southern boundary of Murch.

I have heard Eaton might go to Hardy, but had not heard that about Hearst. It is not far geographically from Deal, so would be a little surprising and is closer to Deal than Eaton or Oyster-Adams, though OA has it's own MS many IB families choose Deal from there. So a few other ES would go to Hardy before Hearst.

Eaton am Hearst are definitely on the Deal chopping block-- at the top. They actually have a "viable" ms which is geographically close. The more distant ES feeders for Deal (Shepard, etc) have no "viable" feeder close at all. I would be shocked if their feeder pattern for future students doesn't change.

[Anonymous]

what does in quotes viable mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some Murch boundary could realistically change to Hearst, since Hearst has boundaries which are too small to feed it and it is undergoing a renovation.

If OPs kid starts Murch in September 2014 then she likely will be grandfathered in regardless if her elementary school changes to Hearst in 2015. But there is some talk of Hearst feeding to Hardy Middle School, so I suppose there is a small likelihood that if OP is re-zoned for Hearst then her middle school might wind up being Hardy if all of Hearst goes to Hardy. But this only applies if OP is at the very southern boundary of Murch.

I have heard Eaton might go to Hardy, but had not heard that about Hearst. It is not far geographically from Deal, so would be a little surprising and is closer to Deal than Eaton or Oyster-Adams, though OA has it's own MS many IB families choose Deal from there. So a few other ES would go to Hardy before Hearst.

Eaton am Hearst are definitely on the Deal chopping block-- at the top. They actually have a "viable" ms which is geographically close. The more distant ES feeders for Deal (Shepard, etc) have no "viable" feeder close at all. I would be shocked if their feeder pattern for future students doesn't change.

may i ask you to follow up with your reasoning for your certainty about any sort of chopping block list?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what does in quotes viable mean?

they mean that Hardy is a good enough alternative to Deal for the student body/parents at those schools, as compared to alternatives to Deal that are not west-of-Park for Deal inbound families that do not live west of Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what does in quotes viable mean?

they mean that Hardy is a good enough alternative to Deal for the student body/parents at those schools, as compared to alternatives to Deal that are not west-of-Park for Deal inbound families that do not live west of Park.

is that sort of thinking really going to drive this? seems pretty convoluted.

[Anonymous]

why would they keep eotp schools feeding into deal, and have shoals wotp that are on the same metro line and within a mile not feed into deal? that doesn't make much sense.

we could always close off deal to the rest of the city and just let janney have at it. now that would make sense!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what does in quotes viable mean?

they mean that Hardy is a good enough alternative to Deal for the student body/parents at those schools, as compared to alternatives to Deal that are not west-of-Park for Deal inbound families that do not live west of Park.

is that sort of thinking really going to drive this? seems pretty convoluted.

I'm trying to put everything the writer meant into one sentence.

The gist is that shifting Eaton or Hearst to Hardy is not harmful to their students and they wouldn't complain enough to change that. Other Deal students don't have as easy a time if cut out of Deal.

[Anonymous]

DCPS problem is they created all these education campuses in NW eotp. There isn't a smooth transition for a Shepard or Bancroft into a MS in those locations. So you have to look at what is the most viable option for kids (after excluding the fact that Shepard and Bancroft bring their own unique "diversity" additions to Deal). There isn't a stand alone middle school in area. Where do you put those kids? Shove them into a pk-8 campus starting at 6th grade? The fact is that Deal is the ONLY stand alone middle school remotely near these schools.

Hearst is 17% IB so the kids going there don't live even within the Deal boundaries meaning if they are using public transportation it can take you just as easily to Hardy as it does to Deal. Same goes for Eaton though the IB is a bit more (in the 30s?).

It will definitely be a battle but I think the Deal southern boundary will shift north. I think the OA and Bancroft kids are outliers. But not sure how you get them out without creating a huge uproar. Who am I kidding. There will be a huge uproar (and lawsuits) regardless.