ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

No one should be afraid of cut off dates for a children’s game. But it was just a joke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why I love this message board or the unanimous ones is because I’ll make this statement and you have no idea if I’m telling the truth.

School year cut offs are going to be approved and it’s already been decided now is soccer just has to just stamp yes. They will push this mandate to each governing league to start when they want which will be spring 25 or by Fall 26 at the latest.

ECNL has already had talks about going with Grad year but don’t want to spook anyone which is why they’ve gone quiet as far as posting anything official. More than likely ECNL will allow the non high school kids to shuffle around for spring as long as they are rostered on an ECNL team with that club already.

Also ECNL doesn’t want to deal with date constraints so will allow waiver systems for each team/kid to apply for a waiver and explain why they were held back or started late or whatever. Each team can only have 2-3 kids on waivers per team from what I understand. And ECNL will not approve everyone’s waivers. Your birth month will matter a lot also. Summer kids more likely to be approved then an August hold back kid.

This is how the GY held back parents are planning to sneak into leagues like ECNL.

If waivers for playing down happens it will immediately become corrupted and kill ECNL.

But that's OK everyone will see what's going on a switch leagues.

ECNL will allow the hold backs depending on their birthdate and why they had to repeat a grade and when they repeated a grade. Everyone won’t be approved. It won’t get out of hand. Everything will be okay.

Won't happen because it will force all the top clubs to recruit held back players. It would also force the top players to get held back to be a double standout on a team.

Parents hate waivers. It's one of the things that killed DA. (Allowing some players to play in HS via waivers) Everyone was pissed about it.

MLSN already allows biobanding, so player can play down and use the 12-23 months advantage to crush younger team. I am not surprised ECNL will copy MLSN's dirty trick on biobanding to make ECNL teams stronger at all costs.

MLS Acadamies don't care about biobanding. Those type of players are crash test dummies.

Then why do most clubs use the max amount of bio banding players?

Now imagine an entire team of biobanders. This is what GY people want.

GY people are a figment of your imagination.

[Anonymous]

Grad year would be the absolute worse because then you get into the holdback thing like lax, fball and basketball have….then it’s the wild Wild West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

No one should be afraid of cut off dates for a children’s game. But it was just a joke.

Sorry, thought you were the lunatic that mentions how much they hate grad year apropos of nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grad year would be the absolute worse because then you get into the holdback thing like lax, fball and basketball have….then it’s the wild Wild West.

Like this one, out of the blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

ECNL will do some shitty thing like MLS biobanding, so GY fans can have their kids beat 2 years younger player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

ECNL will do some shitty thing like MLS biobanding, so GY fans can have their kids beat 2 years younger player.

No, on one of the the ECNL podcasts leadership and the researcher they presented were not for biobanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

ECNL will do some shitty thing like MLS biobanding, so GY fans can have their kids beat 2 years younger player.

No, on one of the the ECNL podcasts leadership and the researcher they presented were not for biobanding.

I wish ECNL held their word that there is no bio banding, no shitty GY made up, just pure SY to make it fair and square. Whoever holds their kids so they have a chance to play down is gaming the system and are total losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why I love this message board or the unanimous ones is because I’ll make this statement and you have no idea if I’m telling the truth.

School year cut offs are going to be approved and it’s already been decided now is soccer just has to just stamp yes. They will push this mandate to each governing league to start when they want which will be spring 25 or by Fall 26 at the latest.

ECNL has already had talks about going with Grad year but don’t want to spook anyone which is why they’ve gone quiet as far as posting anything official. More than likely ECNL will allow the non high school kids to shuffle around for spring as long as they are rostered on an ECNL team with that club already.

Also ECNL doesn’t want to deal with date constraints so will allow waiver systems for each team/kid to apply for a waiver and explain why they were held back or started late or whatever. Each team can only have 2-3 kids on waivers per team from what I understand. And ECNL will not approve everyone’s waivers. Your birth month will matter a lot also. Summer kids more likely to be approved then an August hold back kid.

This is how the GY held back parents are planning to sneak into leagues like ECNL.

If waivers for playing down happens it will immediately become corrupted and kill ECNL.

But that's OK everyone will see what's going on a switch leagues.

ECNL will allow the hold backs depending on their birthdate and why they had to repeat a grade and when they repeated a grade. Everyone won’t be approved. It won’t get out of hand. Everything will be okay.

Won't happen because it will force all the top clubs to recruit held back players. It would also force the top players to get held back to be a double standout on a team.

Parents hate waivers. It's one of the things that killed DA. (Allowing some players to play in HS via waivers) Everyone was pissed about it.

MLSN already allows biobanding, so player can play down and use the 12-23 months advantage to crush younger team. I am not surprised ECNL will copy MLSN's dirty trick on biobanding to make ECNL teams stronger at all costs.

MLS Acadamies don't care about biobanding. Those type of players are crash test dummies.

Then why do most clubs use the max amount of bio banding players?

Probably terrible MLS clubs and not MLS Acadamies.

I doubt any reputable MLS teams will use biobanding. It is not good for team chemistry. Possible only MLS team short on players or bad in general, that needs older players to help, I mean cheat.

Uhm- every club in this area has bio banded kids playing down. So is no local MLS Next team good?

[Anonymous]

As kid that will be directly impacted. I just wish they don't leave this hanging for 23 months as a nagging worry for teens and their families. If they want to grow the game, having this looming and in the background will only cause people to leave the sport vs. stick with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We will all be united for once.

Until they announce Grad Year…

GY wasn't part of the survey, it is not being considered, you are projecting a fear.

ECNL will do some shitty thing like MLS biobanding, so GY fans can have their kids beat 2 years younger player.

No, on one of the the ECNL podcasts leadership and the researcher they presented were not for biobanding.

I wish ECNL held their word that there is no bio banding, no shitty GY made up, just pure SY to make it fair and square. Whoever holds their kids so they have a chance to play down is gaming the system and are total losers.

Lighten up, Francis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As kid that will be directly impacted. I just wish they don't leave this hanging for 23 months as a nagging worry for teens and their families. If they want to grow the game, having this looming and in the background will only cause people to leave the sport vs. stick with.

While I agree they should make a decision and be done with it. The vast majorly of families with kids that play soccer have no knowledge that this is even being discussed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As kid that will be directly impacted. I just wish they don't leave this hanging for 23 months as a nagging worry for teens and their families. If they want to grow the game, having this looming and in the background will only cause people to leave the sport vs. stick with.

While I agree they should make a decision and be done with it. The vast majorly of families with kids that play soccer have no knowledge that this is even being discussed.

As soon as a decision is announced it will spread very quickly and clubs will get angry calls, guarantee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As kid that will be directly impacted. I just wish they don't leave this hanging for 23 months as a nagging worry for teens and their families. If they want to grow the game, having this looming and in the background will only cause people to leave the sport vs. stick with.

While I agree they should make a decision and be done with it. The vast majorly of families with kids that play soccer have no knowledge that this is even being discussed.

That might have been true a few weeks or months ago, but the cat is out of the bag. It's being talked about everywhere now.

[Anonymous]

The demonization of bio-banding on this forum shows how out of touch with reality US soccer has become. The program was never designed to give teams an advantage. It was started in Europe to serve the purpose of what most of us agree is a huge problem - focusing on the development of players and not winning trophies at youth levels. Just as trees grow at different rates, so do kids. Anyone involved in youth soccer who is worth their salt will tell you that the smaller kids get pushed out at younger ages. Biobanding is SUPPOSED to provide skilled, smaller kids with an opportunity to be challenged at a high skill level while not being pushed out of their game because of their size. Unfortunately, in the US they implemented it in just one league with no guidelines. As can be totally expected, a few a'hole adults have abused the rule by bio-banding kids who do not fit the model - to get a competitive advantage. It would be very easy to work with a pediatric chart for the bottom five percent of growth tables and say...unless you are this height and weight and below, you're not eligible. Unfortunately, there are really no rules like this in place for MLS Next. There should be, and in my opinion other leagues should adopt bio=banding while capping it to a couple kids per team with the aforementioned size restrictions. And, again, because it has been misrepresented in other parts of DCUM, bio-banding has NOTHING to do with birth date in terms of 4th quarter, etc. Some kids are extremely late bloomers and some are early bloomers. It is completely possible for a 13 year old boy to be smaller than the average 11 year old. That kid could go on to be a great soccer player, and should be given the chance. The adults should be sensible about these things and play the bigger kids up when it makes sense and make exceptions for the skilled smaller kids as well. That's not cheating. It's good practice for developing players. But, I'm sure we'll all go back to figuring out how we're going to collect our U13 trophies, because that's what really matters, right?