legal/financial implications of living together-messed up situation-help!

[Anonymous]

financial/legal opinions please...not relationship advice...let's keep the two issues separate...this is the money/finances forum.

Back story.
Woman well off financially. Man, not as much. Man has own place but essentially lives with woman in her nicer place for at least the last 5 years. Man loses his place recently to bank forclosure but does not disclose details to woman. Day to day doesn't really change but woman knows that man doesn't have his place any longer. Suspects it went to forclosure (verified on line) but man never told woman-they just don't talk about it. Finances are obviously not combined. Man does not pay rent or utilities.

Does the man now have any legal right to her place since it has been where he has been living but now does not have an official address of his own?

It's a fact that this is a messed up relationship-no question there. Woman does not want to kick him out or end relationship, those around her (me) want to help her protect her assets.

Please offer opinion/advice/knowledge about the legalities or any other related anecdotes.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

what state?

[Anonymous]

a non common-law marriage state. Thankfully.

Was that why you asked about the state?

[Anonymous]

Depending on the landlord/tenant laws of your state, I could imagine that he might have rights of a tenant, but I can't imagine that he'd have rights to the assets themselves.

[Anonymous]

This is a relationship issue - bottom line. If she wants to protect her assets what she needs to do is KICK HIM OUT.
The longer he stays the more acess he has to her information (credit fraud - identity theft), her banking info to just outright STEAL FROM HER, plus manipulate her emotionally. Baby -- money problems are usually NEVER ABOUT MONEY. She needs to protect herself and if she does not want to do what she needs to do in order for that to happen, then there is nothing that you or anyone on DCUM can tell her.

[Anonymous]

Never watched Judge Judy?
It's simple:you can't kick him out, you 2 have a landlord/tenant relationship.He has no claims to your property whatsoever.
Don't forget to give proper notice when you are ready to get rid of him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never watched Judge Judy?
It's simple:you can't kick him out, you 2 have a landlord/tenant relationship.He has no claims to your property whatsoever.
Don't forget to give proper notice when you are ready to get rid of him.

Exactly why Judy says that living together is a big headache!!!
I love Judy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never watched Judge Judy?
It's simple:you can't kick him out, you 2 have a landlord/tenant relationship.He has no claims to your property whatsoever.
Don't forget to give proper notice when you are ready to get rid of him.

Exactly why Judy says that living together is a big headache!!!
I love Judy!

+1

[Anonymous]

Sound like he can claim a month to month tenacy, meaning she must give him 30 days written notice to vacate. It also sounds like you are concerned about a claim of palimony, this might be tricky given the length of the relationship and the fact man has vacated his home. More details would be needed.

[Anonymous]

Thank you all. OP here, this is a family member. I am surprised by the situation and hope to help her protect her assets. She seems to like him around and says she "doesn't need his money anyway". My point is that he seems to need hers.
Could he really claim palimony if not married in a non common law state? I imagine that it could be difficult to kick him out since he has no other place to go (and she is not at that point anyway), but I would think that he doesn't have an right to her assets.
Good point about him having access to her information and possessions.
Bad news here. I will have a talk with her and make sure that she has her eyes wide open and will help her if she wants the help.
Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Does he have a job? What's he doing with his money?

[Anonymous]

OP here. We (family members) have always wondered about how he pays his bills. Again, never discussed with woman he lives with.

He works free lance jobs. He has a professional skill/talent but only works when he gets an offer.

No, no "real job"/steady paycheck for at least 15 years.

It's sounding worse and worse to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. We (family members) have always wondered about how he pays his bills. Again, never discussed with woman he lives with.

He works free lance jobs. He has a professional skill/talent but only works when he gets an offer.

No, no "real job"/steady paycheck for at least 15 years.

It's sounding worse and worse to me.

So if she is not worried about it, not giving you details about what is exactly going on, why in the world are you posing this question...wondering about palimony of all things???

Sounds like your family member has mess, likes a mess, is going to keep her mess, so DON'T MESS WITH HER MESS!
MYOB!