Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Balancing out the FARMS rate between Woodward and WJ is a means of promoting similar education quality at both schools. All options ignore this.


Yes, this is what makes sense. You can also solve for utilization that way and the population will be diverse, likely FARMS close to 20% in both schools.

Does it solve for high FARMS at Kennedy and Blair? No.

But we all need to realize that mcps is going to have a very tough time meeting budget needs next year. With this admistration cutting funding for contractors and government jobs left and right, people in this county cannot sustain the increase in property taxes that it would take to fund everything.

Cuts in spending will undoubtedly have to be made. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out.

Buses long distance for equity purposes — where kids can walk for free — or teachers’ jobs? What’s it going to be? How much does it cost to fund an unnecessary bus route (a bus, maintenance, insurance, fuel and a bus driver)?

And what is the environmental impact of that bus? We seemingly haven’t had success in getting electric buses, so we are looking at fossil fuel.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.


Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.


Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.


That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.


This is false and has been discussed extensively upthread.

I have gone to Blair from Chevy Chase in a car on the regular. It is often 30 min in a car if not taking 495. Easily 45 min in a bus.


It's 20 minutes if you take East West Highway east in the morning and west in the afternoon.

Just because somebody said it earlier in this thread doesn't make it true.

Also buses can take 495.


All that fossil fuel …
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Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.


Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.


Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.


That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.


This is false and has been discussed extensively upthread.

I have gone to Blair from Chevy Chase in a car on the regular. It is often 30 min in a car if not taking 495. Easily 45 min in a bus.


It's 20 minutes if you take East West Highway east in the morning and west in the afternoon.

Just because somebody said it earlier in this thread doesn't make it true.

Also buses can take 495.


Sigh. It’s dumb to bus kids who can and do walk. It’s dumber to bus them 6.5 miles.

Buses 1) make stops to pick up kids 2) go slower than cars 3) don’t take 495 bc of #1. These are some reasons the ride is slower than cars.
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Anonymous wrote:Balancing out the FARMS rate between Woodward and WJ is a means of promoting similar education quality at both schools. All options ignore this.


Yes, this is what makes sense. You can also solve for utilization that way and the population will be diverse, likely FARMS close to 20% in both schools.

Does it solve for high FARMS at Kennedy and Blair? No.

But we all need to realize that mcps is going to have a very tough time meeting budget needs next year. With this admistration cutting funding for contractors and government jobs left and right, people in this county cannot sustain the increase in property taxes that it would take to fund everything.

Cuts in spending will undoubtedly have to be made. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out.

Buses long distance for equity purposes — where kids can walk for free — or teachers’ jobs? What’s it going to be? How much does it cost to fund an unnecessary bus route (a bus, maintenance, insurance, fuel and a bus driver)?

And what is the environmental impact of that bus? We seemingly haven’t had success in getting electric buses, so we are looking at fossil fuel.


Agreed with all of this.

Also the traffic. More kids in cars. Fewer parents able to make it to over school stuff. Longer busing also increases absenteeism and being late.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.


Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.


Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.


That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.


This is false and has been discussed extensively upthread.

I have gone to Blair from Chevy Chase in a car on the regular. It is often 30 min in a car if not taking 495. Easily 45 min in a bus.


It's 20 minutes if you take East West Highway east in the morning and west in the afternoon.

Just because somebody said it earlier in this thread doesn't make it true.

Also buses can take 495.


Sigh. It’s dumb to bus kids who can and do walk. It’s dumber to bus them 6.5 miles.

Buses 1) make stops to pick up kids 2) go slower than cars 3) don’t take 495 bc of #1. These are some reasons the ride is slower than cars.


You are suggesting every bus must make 25 minutes of stops. In that case a 30 minute ride would be the absolute minimum and y'all are flipping out over 45 minutes. Gmafb
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.


Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.


Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.


That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.


This is false and has been discussed extensively upthread.

I have gone to Blair from Chevy Chase in a car on the regular. It is often 30 min in a car if not taking 495. Easily 45 min in a bus.


It's 20 minutes if you take East West Highway east in the morning and west in the afternoon.

Just because somebody said it earlier in this thread doesn't make it true.

Also buses can take 495.


Sigh. It’s dumb to bus kids who can and do walk. It’s dumber to bus them 6.5 miles.

Buses 1) make stops to pick up kids 2) go slower than cars 3) don’t take 495 bc of #1. These are some reasons the ride is slower than cars.


You are suggesting every bus must make 25 minutes of stops. In that case a 30 minute ride would be the absolute minimum and y'all are flipping out over 45 minutes. Gmafb


Going from no bus ride to a 6.5 mile bus ride is dumb for many many reasons.
Anonymous
Is is so disgusting and dishonest to use low income communities to advance your own interests. Smh
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MoCo should just build more affordable housing in places in west county. And MCPS should say that they will be like Howard county and predictive every 5 years based on utilization and other projections. No one is owed their house value in perpetuity.
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Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?


There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.
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Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?


There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.


Oh the troll
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?


See here: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/budget-101/index.html

Yes schools with higher needs receive more resources.
Anonymous
We should balance FARMS rates between Woodward and WJ by dividing up the DCC kids getting roped into old WJ cluster. This will go a long way
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Anonymous wrote:We should balance FARMS rates between Woodward and WJ by dividing up the DCC kids getting roped into old WJ cluster. This will go a long way


I agree with that. I don’t get why the plan is to have such a disparity in FARMS rates between WJ and Woodward
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Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.


Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.


Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.


That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.


Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.
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