Trump announces policy banning transgender military service

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the democrats make this part of their platforms when running for office.. It surely will help them win votes from the middle class smh

Supporting the LGBTQ community? Damn right it will be part of the platform.

Did you see that even Orrin Hatch - Orrin mfin Hatch - came out against this idiotic move of Trumps? If you think Trump made the right move, or made a popular move, you my friend are living in a bubble.

And you will lose again! Almost half of all transgendered folks have attempted or thought about suicide. This alone makes you not eligible for service. Why are you pushing this sjw narrative on the country and now you want to experiment in the military to??

Did I miss where the POTUS gave this as a reason or are you just trying to backfill the reason? Because it appears that high ranking military officials, members of Congress and the lobbyists who wanted the ban on paying for the surgery are all shocked because the ban was much more than they wanted. But of course, the POTUS knows more than the people with actual experience.

"I know more about ISIS than the generals do".

"Who knew healthcare was so complicated".

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jsteele wrote:The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff just told Reuters that there will be no policy change with regard to transgender service members until directed from the President. Apparently he doesn't take order over Twitter.

Apparently, Trump doesn't realize that he can't pass laws using Twitter, and it's not the same as signing an EO. Everyday he does something even more dumb than the next. I laugh and cry at the same time.

Of course he knows you dumbass, he was just giving people a heads up on what is going to happen.

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jsteele wrote:The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff just told Reuters that there will be no policy change with regard to transgender service members until directed from the President. Apparently he doesn't take order over Twitter.

Apparently, Trump doesn't realize that he can't pass laws using Twitter, and it's not the same as signing an EO. Everyday he does something even more dumb than the next. I laugh and cry at the same time.

Of course he knows you dumbass, he was just giving people a heads up on what is going to happen.

27 dimensional chess! 18,0000000000000 dimensional parcheesi! He's so brilliant he just SOUNDS like a crazy person! He's so clever you just can't see how clever he's being! Electoral college! Hillary! Benghazi! Gay people! Black people! SYSTEM OVERLOAD

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Obama began this tradition of imperial presidencies. People are finding out it's not that awesome when you disagree. huh.

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Anonymous wrote:Transgender people join the military to get free sex re-assignment surgery. It costs tax payers a couple million a year, but better than botching their bodies in Thailand.

The military pays 5 times as much on viagra then on gender reassignment surgery.

Why do people keep saying that as if it's meaningful?
How much is spent for the average soldier with ED?
How much is spent for the average transgender soldier?

If I can demonstrate that ADHD is less expensive to treat than transgender...ism? or ED, will that suddenly convince everyone that people who are treating their ADHD should be allowed to serve?

It is meaningful. Because ED costs far outweigh the costs of transitioning surgeries. That you've chosen to break it down for "average" soldiers or per soldier is what is not meaningful b/c there are always going to be differences between between each individual. The healthy soldier with no medical history is going to cost less than the "average" soldier with asthma, or who injures him/herself, or who has allergies, or . . . pick your ailment. So, this is a bit of cute maneuvering to do it that way. Overall, the financial argument simply doesn't hold up.

And why ED is identified should be obvious. It's not necessary to be able to get an erection to serve in the military just as it isn't, according to people here, "necessary" to undergo transition while in the military. Yet, one is extensively covered. The other people are bitching and complaining about b/c, let's be honest, it has zero to do with cost and all to do with fear of what they don't know.

I'm breaking it down per soldier because to compare total numbers is how you lie with statistics.

"More white people are on welfare than any other race!"
True, but if you compare % of the population with their % on welfare, white people are under represented.

So "more money is spent on ED!" ok. Is that treating 5,000 soldiers with ED for every 1 transgender soldier? Or is it treating 1 soldier with ED for every 5 transgender soldiers? Is it comparing just the medication costs? Is it comparing surgical costs? Is it comparing time off work costs?

It's a meaningless statement to just say "more!"

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff just told Reuters that there will be no policy change with regard to transgender service members until directed from the President. Apparently he doesn't take order over Twitter.

Apparently, Trump doesn't realize that he can't pass laws using Twitter, and it's not the same as signing an EO. Everyday he does something even more dumb than the next. I laugh and cry at the same time.

Of course he knows you dumbass, he was just giving people a heads up on what is going to happen.

Thanks for the justification, Mooch.

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One of my breasts was injured and mildly deformed from an abscess while nursing. During many years of military breast exams no doctor has ever, after commenting/inquiring on my scar tissue - suggested that I am eligible for any kind of repair or reconstruction. If the military were paying for transgender operations I would certainly expect them to pay for this and other plastic surgeries that help people genuinely feel better about themselves. I will ask about a breast repair thr next time I'm in with my doctor.