testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

[Anonymous]

I think it's funny that there are people demanding both that teachers need extra resources because of the pandemic and not recognizing that data collection and reporting in influenced by the pandemic.

OSSE isn't magic, y'all. They probably had people that had to stay home, and often data work can't be done over servers.

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Anonymous wrote:I take issue with "the majority of DCPS parents". There's no way of knowing that. It's not like we were polled periodically in the pandemic.

yep. and some very good research showed that parental opinion was swayed by the messages they got from their school being opened or closed. WTU playing on and amplifying these parental fears (both through their rhetoric and keeping schools closed) was unforgivable.

I’m sorry you don’t like that black parents and teacher trust each other.

The research wasn't about just DC, by the way, and it wasn't about just Black parents and teachers. Also, less than half of DC teachers are Black. But thanks for looking at it with that lens to heighten the politicization!

Not sure where you get your data from but half of DC’s teachers are black. Well DCPS, I don’t care about charters.

And please be specific next time. Most people will assume you’re talking about DC, since you know this is a dc public schools forum.

Technically slightly less than half: https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/DCPS-Fast-Facts-2019-20.pdf

The point is, your characterization of the situation is off base, and only meant to instigate division.

+1. Also the black DCPS parents who trust the teachers are doing so to their own detriment - just look at how abysmal their kids' test scores are. I'll stop myself here before getting into my diatribe about how the poorer black community's tendency to see teacher as authority figures and not to question them is a holdover from slavery/racism and helps keep them down by not demanding more for their kids.

oh, do please go on.

Yes, please please go on. I would love to see how this person continues their statement. Do you think they can walk out of the statement that black people are still acting like slaves? Probably also one of the people who argues that there isn't rampant racism on this website.

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Anonymous wrote:I take issue with "the majority of DCPS parents". There's no way of knowing that. It's not like we were polled periodically in the pandemic.

yep. and some very good research showed that parental opinion was swayed by the messages they got from their school being opened or closed. WTU playing on and amplifying these parental fears (both through their rhetoric and keeping schools closed) was unforgivable.

I’m sorry you don’t like that black parents and teacher trust each other.

The research wasn't about just DC, by the way, and it wasn't about just Black parents and teachers. Also, less than half of DC teachers are Black. But thanks for looking at it with that lens to heighten the politicization!

Not sure where you get your data from but half of DC’s teachers are black. Well DCPS, I don’t care about charters.

And please be specific next time. Most people will assume you’re talking about DC, since you know this is a dc public schools forum.

Technically slightly less than half: https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/DCPS-Fast-Facts-2019-20.pdf

The point is, your characterization of the situation is off base, and only meant to instigate division.

+1. Also the black DCPS parents who trust the teachers are doing so to their own detriment - just look at how abysmal their kids' test scores are. I'll stop myself here before getting into my diatribe about how the poorer black community's tendency to see teacher as authority figures and not to question them is a holdover from slavery/racism and helps keep them down by not demanding more for their kids.

oh, do please go on.

Yes, please please go on. I would love to see how this person continues their statement. Do you think they can walk out of the statement that black people are still acting like slaves? Probably also one of the people who argues that there isn't rampant racism on this website.

Ty for bumping this. Go on PP!!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m against mayoral control and the main thing is basically that the Mayor is disinterested. Schools are depoliticized but also directionless. No fire, no need to make the system work better.

To me, Shannon Hidge was the one who spoke with most fire. She was advocating for some research that was underway, saying to let the research guide what needs to be done to help student outcomes. And that without any kind of research, we have no clue whether changing governance structures would actually help student outcomes.

I don’t know if it is still possible to watch the video from the hearing (linked above) but she was worth a watch.

Shannon Hodge's statements:

https://www.dccharters.org/testimony-whole-osse-independence-bills/

"There may come a time when we will need a serious examination of our education governance system. But any changes made should be done carefully, with significant stakeholder input on implementation. Instead of changing OSSE’s structure and oversight in isolation—without regard for how such changes could upset public education in the District—the entire ecosystem needs deep study. Fortunately, the Council, in partnership with Mayor Bowser, has already created a mechanism for such a study.

In March 2019, this Council created the independent Research Practice Partnership (RPP) to “conduct independent education-related research that will support improvement in the District’s public schools” (DC Code § 38-785.02(b)). We encourage the Council not to abandon a structure it established just a couple years ago in favor of upending OSSE’s governance during a pandemic. Instead, we strongly urge the Council to allow the independent RPP, which is removed from politics, to undertake studies to inform any shifts in OSSE’s structure that the Council considers. As an alternative to the bills before you, the Council should focus on ensuring that the RPP is operational and operating to achieve its critical mission on supporting improvement in the District’s public schools."

I mean, this is obviously correct. Especially because none of the ditch mayoral control people can connect the current problems in schools (real) to a solution based on SBOE control… because there is no connection.

[Anonymous]

Mayoral control was a scam by venture philanthropist to privatize and profiteer off public schools. It was never about improving test scores of students. And, if you've lived in DC long enough, you'll know it's concentrated poverty, homelessness, and lack of safety, that has the biggest impact on student achievement, not teachers. Hence 44 charters school have closed since 2009 for the same reason Mayoral control was enacted. How do you explain that????

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Anonymous wrote:Mayoral control was a scam by venture philanthropist to privatize and profiteer off public schools. It was never about improving test scores of students. And, if you've lived in DC long enough, you'll know it's concentrated poverty, homelessness, and lack of safety, that has the biggest impact on student achievement, not teachers. Hence 44 charters school have closed since 2009 for the same reason Mayoral control was enacted. How do you explain that????

Charter schools aren’t private schools.

Man you privatizer conspiracy nut jobs are getting paid these days aren’t you. Literally no one talks like this outside of the very far left or the union.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mayoral control was a scam by venture philanthropist to privatize and profiteer off public schools. It was never about improving test scores of students. And, if you've lived in DC long enough, you'll know it's concentrated poverty, homelessness, and lack of safety, that has the biggest impact on student achievement, not teachers. Hence 44 charters school have closed since 2009 for the same reason Mayoral control was enacted. How do you explain that????

Charter schools aren’t private schools.

Man you privatizer conspiracy nut jobs are getting paid these days aren’t you. Literally no one talks like this outside of the very far left or the union.

This. Anyone who doesn't agree with the union or union's minions on the City Council (such as Robert White and Janeese Lewis George) must be privatizers, racists, Trumpers, don't love their children . . .

Parents, remember the union members and supporters worked against us to open schools and tried to shame us for advocating for our children. They're trying to same tactic now.

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Anonymous wrote:Mayoral control was a scam by venture philanthropist to privatize and profiteer off public schools. It was never about improving test scores of students. And, if you've lived in DC long enough, you'll know it's concentrated poverty, homelessness, and lack of safety, that has the biggest impact on student achievement, not teachers. Hence 44 charters school have closed since 2009 for the same reason Mayoral control was enacted. How do you explain that????

Charter schools aren’t private schools.

Man you privatizer conspiracy nut jobs are getting paid these days aren’t you. Literally no one talks like this outside of the very far left or the union.

This. Anyone who doesn't agree with the union or union's minions on the City Council (such as Robert White and Janeese Lewis George) must be privatizers, racists, Trumpers, don't love their children . . .

Parents, remember the union members and supporters worked against us to open schools and tried to shame us for advocating for our children. They're trying to same tactic now.

Just going thread to thread with your vitriol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mayoral control was a scam by venture philanthropist to privatize and profiteer off public schools. It was never about improving test scores of students. And, if you've lived in DC long enough, you'll know it's concentrated poverty, homelessness, and lack of safety, that has the biggest impact on student achievement, not teachers. Hence 44 charters school have closed since 2009 for the same reason Mayoral control was enacted. How do you explain that????

Charter schools aren’t private schools.

Man you privatizer conspiracy nut jobs are getting paid these days aren’t you. Literally no one talks like this outside of the very far left or the union.

This. Anyone who doesn't agree with the union or union's minions on the City Council (such as Robert White and Janeese Lewis George) must be privatizers, racists, Trumpers, don't love their children . . .

Parents, remember the union members and supporters worked against us to open schools and tried to shame us for advocating for our children. They're trying to same tactic now.

Just going thread to thread with your vitriol

well you have to agree that the "privatizers" poster revived a dead thread in order to spout conspiracy nonsense.