DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

MANY of the players were in fact developed at MLS academies and sold. You don't know sh#t my man. Keep trying though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

And no matter what, nothing youre saying makes DCU a good academy. So it's really irrelevant. But toying with you is very amusing to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

Be relentless with something good to say about DCU...too bad you can't do that.

[Anonymous]

In fact, you were so bad at it that months ago someone offered to start a new thread for you on DCUM to just talk.about the good things at DCU. Remember that? Of course you have a short memory on that. And they started that said thread and it died in a matter of hours. But this one, seems to live on. Largely.becauee so many people now realize DCU is genuinely not a good place to be and are getting hip to the bulls#it it is offering...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

I went through the list because I thought it was interesting to see just how many players are in Europe from the MLS and it is quite a bit. That alone is fascinating.

But what I found is that this list has both MLS academy products and players that landed in the MLS from some other league and then went elsewhere. Quite a few MLS academy products are represented here. In fact, almost all the MLS academy products that are playing overseas are on this list.

I think your baseline argument was that if other MLS academies were producing pros at a higher clip than DCU for top tier leagues overseas then those leagues would have a decent amount of MLS players in them. Correct? This list proves that to be true. And it also proves that DCU, while it does have a few players overseas, is generally underrepresented. And of the three players on this list from DCU, Yow, Paredes and Akinmboni, two are known to have had serious problems with DCU (Yow and Akinmboni) and one is the only real success story DCU can claim, Paredes. For an academy that has been around longer than almost all the Academies in the MLS, and for one of the founding clubs in the MLS that is now over 30 years old, this isn't good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

I went through the list because I thought it was interesting to see just how many players are in Europe from the MLS and it is quite a bit. That alone is fascinating.

But what I found is that this list has both MLS academy products and players that landed in the MLS from some other league and then went elsewhere. Quite a few MLS academy products are represented here. In fact, almost all the MLS academy products that are playing overseas are on this list.

I think your baseline argument was that if other MLS academies were producing pros at a higher clip than DCU for top tier leagues overseas then those leagues would have a decent amount of MLS players in them. Correct? This list proves that to be true. And it also proves that DCU, while it does have a few players overseas, is generally underrepresented. And of the three players on this list from DCU, Yow, Paredes and Akinmboni, two are known to have had serious problems with DCU (Yow and Akinmboni) and one is the only real success story DCU can claim, Paredes. For an academy that has been around longer than almost all the Academies in the MLS, and for one of the founding clubs in the MLS that is now over 30 years old, this isn't good.

Previous Post said present a specific list of MLS academy developed players categorized by each academy now playing in the highest European leagues to show all the other academies except dcu are selling players to top leagues in Europe at significantly higher rate

That's the claim requiring verification

Not anecdotes nor eloquently crafted opinions. Evidence

[Anonymous]

The two or three of you are living in a tiny delusional bubble

I'm jumping in to ask for the lists of all the academy players from MLS clubs who didn't become professionals or play soccer at a high level 😁

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

I went through the list because I thought it was interesting to see just how many players are in Europe from the MLS and it is quite a bit. That alone is fascinating.

But what I found is that this list has both MLS academy products and players that landed in the MLS from some other league and then went elsewhere. Quite a few MLS academy products are represented here. In fact, almost all the MLS academy products that are playing overseas are on this list.

I think your baseline argument was that if other MLS academies were producing pros at a higher clip than DCU for top tier leagues overseas then those leagues would have a decent amount of MLS players in them. Correct? This list proves that to be true. And it also proves that DCU, while it does have a few players overseas, is generally underrepresented. And of the three players on this list from DCU, Yow, Paredes and Akinmboni, two are known to have had serious problems with DCU (Yow and Akinmboni) and one is the only real success story DCU can claim, Paredes. For an academy that has been around longer than almost all the Academies in the MLS, and for one of the founding clubs in the MLS that is now over 30 years old, this isn't good.

Previous Post said present a specific list of MLS academy developed players categorized by each academy now playing in the highest European leagues to show all the other academies except dcu are selling players to top leagues in Europe at significantly higher rate

That's the claim requiring verification

Not anecdotes nor eloquently crafted opinions. Evidence

Go find it yourself. It is available. Keep living your lie...👍

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Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

I went through the list because I thought it was interesting to see just how many players are in Europe from the MLS and it is quite a bit. That alone is fascinating.

But what I found is that this list has both MLS academy products and players that landed in the MLS from some other league and then went elsewhere. Quite a few MLS academy products are represented here. In fact, almost all the MLS academy products that are playing overseas are on this list.

I think your baseline argument was that if other MLS academies were producing pros at a higher clip than DCU for top tier leagues overseas then those leagues would have a decent amount of MLS players in them. Correct? This list proves that to be true. And it also proves that DCU, while it does have a few players overseas, is generally underrepresented. And of the three players on this list from DCU, Yow, Paredes and Akinmboni, two are known to have had serious problems with DCU (Yow and Akinmboni) and one is the only real success story DCU can claim, Paredes. For an academy that has been around longer than almost all the Academies in the MLS, and for one of the founding clubs in the MLS that is now over 30 years old, this isn't good.

Previous Post said present a specific list of MLS academy developed players categorized by each academy now playing in the highest European leagues to show all the other academies except dcu are selling players to top leagues in Europe at significantly higher rate

That's the claim requiring verification

Not anecdotes nor eloquently crafted opinions. Evidence

No one needs to verify anything for you. You are not providing any value to the thread. Just diverting attention away from the real issue. That DCU is a crap a## academy. Deflection doesn't really work.

[Anonymous]

Believe what you want to believe. I choose to believe that almost all MLS academies are better than DCU based on all the information provided on this thread. Until you can show me something that proves otherwise, I suggest you go pound sand. I don't care what type of data you ask for. It doesn't matter. End of day you have to believe in something. I believe DCU is trash. And many others do as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUA currently has an 18 year old former academy product at a Premier League Club listed on the Senior Team roster

LOL at calling him as an "academy product." He was there for like 5 minutes. Arguably, Loudoun United has a stronger claim.

Arguably is right

Because if its the player at Bournemouth, he spent years in the DC United organization including getting a homegrown contract at 15 years old

He spent brief moments at Loudoun United, but we know this thread is facts lite

Same arguments recycled. We already established DCU was not good for this player or his career. Just like griffin yow. He was successful despite DCU not. Because of them. If that story is the best you have then literally God help all the kids at DCU

Facts of club history

https://www.transfermarkt.us/matai-akinmboni/profil/spieler/994604

No one is arguing he wasnt at DCU. Just that DCU didn't fully support his career. They almost dropped him when he was 13. Bet you didn't know that. He grew physically and that helped. He played practically no minutes at DCU for the first team. But they put the homegrown tag on him at 15 just like they did this recent kid because they wanted a PR headline and boost their homegrown numbers. Which they got then and they got now. They stagnated his career and his family and agent got him looks overseas because they knew he had no chance at dcu. Which he capitalized on. DCU was not a significant part of his move to Bournemouth. Even if it was, he is a RARE, probably the rarest of rare cases of DCU actually having results. It is all you can hold on to??? And if that is the best case, going through the academy to sign a homegrown, sit on DCUs bench even when they are the worst team and franchise in the league, then add that to the long list of reasons to not go to DCU.

So basically, your argument is one player from the academy went to Bournemouth so the entire academy must be good?? 🤣That's like offering that if one student from a very low performing high school goes to a really good college then the entire school must be good. Hope you can see why that line of thinking and your logic is fundamentally flawed.

You're like dealing with a child. It's actually.amusing. keep it coming. You will never one up me. I am relentless...

It's easy for you to be relentless because you're just rambling your opinion

There's no limits to that

There is a thing called context. The Bournemouth player was specifically mentioned in response to a specific line of argument.

If a player can come through DC United (as an example) and go to the Premier League but every other academy is 4% better in producing top tier professionals, then top tier leagues in Europe should be currently littered with all MLS Club Academy products.

But obviously that's not the case, so, what are these 29 academies better than DCU producing?

They are producing better academies and development environments for youth players, from top to bottom, than DCU is. Full stop.

And MLS academy products ARE all over top leagues in Europe.

Take a look here: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-abroad-every-export-in-premier-league-bundesliga-laliga-more

Just not a lot of DCU players...

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL 😆 🤣

This is not a list of players who were developed at MLS Club Academies then sold to European top division clubs

This is a list of players in January 2025 who played in the MLS at some point.

Eg: Spanish Player, Angelino who was loaned out from Manchester City to NYCFC for a brief period

2015–2018
Manchester City
2015→ New York City FC (loan)

Be relentless with the truth and facts and you'll have less to say

Okay, you're on your own. Enough of the nonsense for me, time to board

I went through the list because I thought it was interesting to see just how many players are in Europe from the MLS and it is quite a bit. That alone is fascinating.

But what I found is that this list has both MLS academy products and players that landed in the MLS from some other league and then went elsewhere. Quite a few MLS academy products are represented here. In fact, almost all the MLS academy products that are playing overseas are on this list.

I think your baseline argument was that if other MLS academies were producing pros at a higher clip than DCU for top tier leagues overseas then those leagues would have a decent amount of MLS players in them. Correct? This list proves that to be true. And it also proves that DCU, while it does have a few players overseas, is generally underrepresented. And of the three players on this list from DCU, Yow, Paredes and Akinmboni, two are known to have had serious problems with DCU (Yow and Akinmboni) and one is the only real success story DCU can claim, Paredes. For an academy that has been around longer than almost all the Academies in the MLS, and for one of the founding clubs in the MLS that is now over 30 years old, this isn't good.

Previous Post said present a specific list of MLS academy developed players categorized by each academy now playing in the highest European leagues to show all the other academies except dcu are selling players to top leagues in Europe at significantly higher rate

That's the claim requiring verification

Not anecdotes nor eloquently crafted opinions. Evidence

Again, nothing to do with how DCU is a quality outfit. 👍

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Believe what you want to believe. I choose to believe that almost all MLS academies are better than DCU based on all the information provided on this thread. Until you can show me something that proves otherwise, I suggest you go pound sand. I don't care what type of data you ask for. It doesn't matter. End of day you have to believe in something. I believe DCU is trash. And many others do as well.

I believe grocery prices are going down and many others do as well
I also believe windmills cause cancer and Tylenol causes autism. Many others do as well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe what you want to believe. I choose to believe that almost all MLS academies are better than DCU based on all the information provided on this thread. Until you can show me something that proves otherwise, I suggest you go pound sand. I don't care what type of data you ask for. It doesn't matter. End of day you have to believe in something. I believe DCU is trash. And many others do as well.

I believe grocery prices are going down and many others do as well
I also believe windmills cause cancer and Tylenol causes autism. Many others do as well

Actually they don't. Then you are legitimately just as dumb as you sound.